Aeschylus Seven Against Thebes 164.app-164-1

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Seven Against Thebes. Aeschylus. ed. Gottfried Hermann. Lipsiae. 1852.

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Critical apparatus to Seven Against Thebes (OCR draft) (Latin) (Latin and Greek critical apparatus to Gottfried Hermann's 1852 edition of Seven Against Thebes.)

Provisional text from uncorrected OCR; expect errors.

Editions (7)
Ἑπτὰ ἐπὶ Θήβας First1KGreek (Aeschyli Tragoediae. Sidgwick, Arthur, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1902.) — 181-202 focus
Ἑπτὰ ἐπὶ Θήβας Perseus (Aeschylus, Volume 1. Smyth, Herbert Weir, editor. London; New York: William Heinemann; G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1922.) — 181-202 focus
Ἑπτὰ ἐπὶ θήβας (OCR draft) Experimental (Ἑπτὰ ἐπὶ θήβας. Guilielmus Dindorfius, 1882.) — 181 focus
Ἑπτὰ ἐπὶ θήβας (OCR draft) Experimental (Ἑπτὰ ἐπὶ θήβας. Gottfried Hermann, 1852.) — 181 focus
ΕΠΤΑ ΕΠΙ θΗΒΑΣ (OCR draft) Experimental (ΕΠΤΑ ΕΠΙ θΗΒΑΣ. Paul Mazon, 1920-1925.) — 181 focus
Ἑπτὰ ἐπὶ θήβας (OCR draft) Experimental (Ἑπτὰ ἐπὶ θήβας. N. Wecklein, 1885.) — 181 focus
ὑμᾶς ἐρωτῶ, θρέμματ᾽ οὐκ ἀνασχετά,
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ἢ ταῦτ᾽ ἄριστα καὶ πόλει σωτήρια,
Aeschyli Septem contra Thebas (OCR draft) Experimental (Aeschyli Septem contra Thebas. Ulrich von Wilamowitz-Moellendorff, 1914.) — 181 focus
Translations (9)
Seven Against Thebes Perseus (Aeschylus, Volume 1. Smyth, Herbert Weir, translator. London; New York: William Heinemann; G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1922. (Modernized by Perseus.)) — 181-200 focus
The Seven against Thebes. (OCR draft) Experimental (The Seven against Thebes.. Theodore Alois Buckley, 1849.) — 181 focus
Intolerable creatures! is this, I ask you, best and salutary for our city, and an encouragement to this beleaguered force, for you to fall before the statues of our tutelary gods, to shriek, to yell—O ye abominations of the wise. Neither in woes nor in welcome prosperity may I be associated with woman-kind; for when woman prevails, her audacity is more than one can live with; and when she is affrighted, she is a still greater mischief to her home and city. Even now, having brought upon your countrymen this pell-mell flight, ye have, by your outcries, spread dastard cowardice, and ye are serving, as best ye may, the interests of those without, but we within our walls are suffering capture at our own hands;—such blessings will you have if you live along with women. Wherefore if any one give not ear to my authority, be it man or woman, or other between [these names
,] the fatal pebble shall decide against him, and by no means shall he escape the doom of stoning at the hand of the populace. For what passeth without is a man's concern, let not woman offer advice—but remaining within do thou occasion no mischief. Heard'st thou, or heard'st thou not, or am I speaking to a deaf woman?
LES SEPT CONTRE THÈBES (OCR draft) Experimental (LES SEPT CONTRE THÈBES. Paul Mazon, 1920-1925.) — 181 focus
des sacrifices que ce peuple vous offrit, et que ce sou-
venir vous guide à son secours. Ne soyez pas oublieuses des mystères prodigues d'offrandes célébrés dans cette cité.
The Seven Chiefs against Thebes (OCR draft) Experimental (The Seven Chiefs against Thebes. Robert Potter, 1779.) — 181 focus
It is not to be borne, ye wayward race: p
Is this your best, is this the aid you lend
The state, the fortitude with which you steel
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The souls of the besieg'd, thus falling down
Before these images to wail, and shriek
With lamentations loud? Wisdom abhors you.
Nor in misfortune, nor in dear success,
Be woman my associate: if her pow'r
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Bears sway, her insolence exceeds all bounds;
But if she fears, woe to that house and city.
And now, by holding counsel with weak fear,
You magnify the foe, and turn our men
To flight: thus are we ruin'd by ourselves.
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This ever will arise from suffering women
To intermix with men.
But mark me well,
Whoe'er henceforth dares disobey my orders,
Be it or man or woman, old or young,
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Vengeance shall burst upon him, the decree
Stands irreversible, and he shall die.
War is no female province, but the scene
For men: hence, home; nor spread your mischiefs here.
Hear you, or not? Or speak I to the deaf?
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Eschilo, I Sette a Tebe: traduzione italiana di Ettore Romagnoli (OCR draft) Experimental (Eschilo, I Sette a Tebe: traduzione italiana di Ettore Romagnoli. Ettore Romagnoli, 1922.) — 181 focus
Insopportabil razza, a voi medesime
lo chiedo, utile è questo, è salutare
per
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la città, potrà coraggio infondere
in chi combatte su le mura, urlare,
piagnucolar, prostrate ai simulacri
dei Numi della Patria? Odio dei saggi!
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Mai nei malanni, mai nella fortuna
non m'abbia in casa la donnesca razza!
Impera, ella è protervia intollerabile:
teme, piú grave è il mal per la sua casa,
per la sua patria. - Ed or, tra i cittadini,
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con lo scompiglio delle vostre fughe,
vociferate esanime viltà.
Cosí vantaggio immenso hanno i nemici;
e noi dai nostri fra le nostre mura
siam cosí posti a sacco. Ecco bel frutto
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del conviver con donne. Ora, se alcuno
non ode il mio comando, o uomo o donna
o chiunque egli sia, pena di morte
sarà votata contro lui, dal popolo
lapidato sarà; né questa sorte
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potrà sfuggire. Gli uomini al governo:
donna non dia consiglio! E tu rimani
in casa, e non far danno. Avete udito
o non avete udito? O parlo a sorde?
Aeschylus, Septem ad Thebas: versio Latina Ioannis Sanravii (OCR draft) Experimental (Aeschylus, Septem ad Thebas: versio Latina Ioannis Sanravii. Ioannes Sanravius, 1555.) — 181 focus
Vos interrogo, greges non tolerandos,
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Vtrum hæc optima, & urbi salutaria ſunt,
Exercituiq; audacia huic turres cuſtodienti,
Cadentes ad ſtatuaſes defenſorum deorum
Clamare, uociferari prudentibus odioſa.
Neq; in malis, neq; in felicitate chara,
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Conturbernatis fuero muliebri generi.
Nam confidens truculenta eſt audacia,
Verita domo & urbi plus mali.
Et nunc ciuibus cursores fugas
Ponentes, iniecistis exanimem ignauiam.
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Ea quæ sunt extra portam, tanqui optima, iuuater
Ipſi ab ipſis intus expugnamur.
Talia cohabitans muliebribus habebis.
Quod ſi quis meo imperio non audiens fuerit,
Vir & mulier, horung, medium,
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Calculus perniciofus contra ipſos conſtitutus est,
Lapidariam populi ne effugiat mortem.
Curæ sit uiro, ne mulier conſultet
De his quæ foris funt, intus existens ne danũ inferat.
Audiuisti, aut non audiuiſtian ſurde loquors
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Seven Against Thebes (OCR draft) Experimental (Seven Against Thebes. Anna Swanwick, 1886.) — 182 focus
ISMENE
Wretched fate!
English (E. D. A. Morshead, 1908) (OCR draft) Experimental (Aeschylus, Seven against Thebes — Morshead translation. Wikisource transcription; speech corresp and card milestones aligned to Smyth perseus-grc2.) — 181 focus
Hark to my question, things detestable!
Is this aright and for the city's weal,
And helpful to our army thus beset,
That ye before the statues of our gods
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Should fling yourselves, and scream and shriek your fears?
Immodest, uncontrolled! Be this my lot—
Never in troublous nor in peaceful days
To dwell with aught that wears a female form!
Where womankind has power, no man can house,
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Where womankind feeds panic, ruin rules
Alike in house and city! Look you now—
Your flying feet, and rumour of your fears,
Have spread a soulless panic on our walls,
And they without do go from strength to strength,
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And we within make breach upon ourselves!
Such fate it brings, to house with womankind.
Therefore if any shall resist my rule—
Or man, or woman, or some sexless thing—
The vote of sentence shall decide their doom,
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And stones of execution, past escape,
Shall finish all. Let not a woman's voice
Be loud in council! for the things without,
A man must care; let women keep within—
Even then is mischief all too probable!
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Hear ye? or speak I to unheeding ears?
German (J. J. C. Donner, 1854; OCR review) (OCR draft) Experimental (Aeschylos. Deutsch in den Versmaßen der Urschrift. Stuttgart: Hoffmann, 1854. Native Donner line citations, Smyth card correspondence, selected textual readings and metrical facsimiles. Remaining OCR differences and unattributed reading notes are documented in the linked review inventory.) — 181 focus
Euch, Weiber, frag' ich, unerträgliches Gezücht,
Dient das zum Besten, schafft es Wohlgedeih'n der Stadt
Und Muth dem Kriegerheere, das der Feind umschloß,
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So vor den Heimatgöttern hier in Staub gestürzt,
Zu schrei'n, zu jammern, ihr dem weisen Mann ein Graun?
Niemals im Unglück, noch im holden Schein des Glücks,
Sei ich in Einem Hause mit dem Frauenvolk!
Denn sind sie oben, ist ihr Troß nicht auszusteh'n;
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Im Leide sind sie größres Leid für Haus und Stadt.
Und jetzt in wildverworr'ner Flucht euch dort und hier
Umtreibend, weckt ihr feige Furcht im Volk umher.
Dem Feinde draußen leistet ihr den besten Dienst,
Und wir vernichten drinnen uns durch eigne Schuld.
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Das hat davon zum Lohne, wer mit Frauen lebt.
Doch wer sich frevelnd meinem Wort entgegenstellt,
Frau'n oder Männer oder wer es immer sei,
Gesprochen werde wider ihn der Todesspruch,
Der Steinigung des Volkes soll er nicht entgeh'n!
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Dem Manne, nicht dem Weibe, liegt zu sorgen ob,
Was außen vorgeht: schade sie nur innen nicht!
Sprech' ich zu Tauben? Hört ihr oder hört ihr nicht?

Commentary

Critical apparatus to Seven Against Thebes (OCR draft) (Latin and Greek critical apparatus to Gottfried Hermann's 1852 edition of Seven Against Thebes.) focus

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ἄριστα:
ἀρεστὰ
scribendum esse suspicatur Dindorfius.
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Commentary (N. Wecklein, 1902; German; OCR draft) (Seven Against Thebes, explanatory commentary pp. 15–100. Single-witness OCR; source readings and all reference placements require scan review.) focus

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Parodos, welche die Schrecken einer belagerten und dem Sturm entgegensehenden Stadt mit solcher Kraft und sinnlicher Lebendigkeit des Ausdrucks vor die Augen führt, daß wir das kriegerische Treiben vor den Mauern ebenso vor uns sehen, wie im Agamemnon die Kassandraszene uns zu Zuschauern der Vorgänge im Hause macht. Zu der Kraft des Ausdrucks kam bei der Auf- führung noch die Veranschaulichung durch die σχήματα ὀρχήσεως, wie bei Athen. I S. 22 A berichtet wird, ὅτι Τελέστης ὁ Αἰσχύλου ὀρχηστής οὕτως ἦν τεχνίτης ὥστε ἐν τῷ ὀρχεῖσθαι τοὺς Ἑπτὰ ἐπὶ Θήβας φανερὰ ποιῆσαι τὰ πράγματα δι ὀρχήσεως. Von diesem Telestes heist es dort weiter: πολλὰ ἐξεύρηκε σχήματα, ἄκρως ταῖς χερσὶ τὰ λεγόμενα δεικνύς. Auf diese χειρο- νομία weist z. Β. ὅδε 80 hin. Das Ganze zerfällt in 4 Teile: im ersten (78-106) kommen die zwölf Choreuten einzeln zum Vortrag, wie sie der Reihe nach entweder einzeln oder, was wahrscheinlicher ist, in drei Gruppen zu je 4 Personen auf- treten ( σποράδην wie Eum. 244 1.). Der Chor besteht ja aus Jungfrauen, Bürgerstöchtern, welche in ihrer Angst zu den Altären der Götter flüchten, also vorher noch nicht versammelt sind. Im zweiten Teile (107—134) singen, wie die drei gleichen Verse 112, 116, 119 = 126, 130, 133 erkennen lassen, die drei στοίχοι nacheinander die Strophe und ebenso die Antistrophe. Den dritten Teil (135–151) tragen die beiden Halbchöre vor, nur in die Weherufe brechen alle zusammen aus. Den letzten Teil (152-165), ein Gebet, spricht der Gesamtchor. Die Wahl von Jungfrauen er- klärt der Schol. gut: εὐπτόητον ἡ τῶν παρθένων ἡλικία, μάλιστα δὲ πρὸς πολιορκίαν.

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vierter Teil, welchem der Chor alle Götter zum Schutze des Landes herbeiruft.

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φιλοθύτων ὀργίων, der opfer- frohen Weihen, der freudig (und dargebrachten Opfer. reichlich) Blaydes vermutet πολυθύτων, un- nötig.