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“By all means,” he said. “And with reference to sobriety,” said I, “and bravery and loftiness of soul
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and all the parts of virtue,
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we must especially be on our guard to distinguish the base-born from the true-born. For when the knowledge necessary to make such discriminations is lacking in individual or state, they unawares employ at random
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for any of these purposes the crippled and base-born natures, as their friends or rulers.” “It is so indeed,” he said. “But we,” I said, “must be on our guard in all such cases,
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since, if we bring men sound of limb and mind to so great a study and so severe a training, justice herself will have no fault to find
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with us, and we shall preserve the state and our polity. But, if we introduce into it the other sort, the outcome will be just the opposite, and we shall pour a still greater flood
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of ridicule upon philosophy.” “That would indeed be shameful,” he said. “Most certainly,” said I: “but here again I am making myself a little ridiculous.” “In what way?”
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“I forgot,” said I, “that we were jesting,
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and I spoke with too great intensity.
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For, while speaking, I turned my eyes upon philosophy,
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and when I saw how she is undeservedly reviled, I was revolted, and, as if in anger, spoke too earnestly to those who are in fault.” “No, by Zeus, not too earnestly for me
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as a hearer.” “But too much so for me as a speaker,” I said. “But this we must not forget, that in our former selection we chose old men, but in this one that will not do. For we must not take Solon’s
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word for it
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that growing old a man is able to learn many things. He is less able to do that than to run a race. To the young
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belong all heavy and frequent labors.”
Necessarily, he said.
“Now, all this study of reckoning and geometry and all the preliminary studies that are indispensable preparation for dialectics must be presented to them while still young, not in the form of compulsory instruction. 12 ” “Why so?” Because, said I, 536e “a free soul ought not to pursue any study slavishly; for while bodily labors 13 performed under constraint do not harm the body, nothing that is learned under compulsion stays with the mind.” True, he said.
“Now, all this study of reckoning and geometry and all the preliminary studies that are indispensable preparation for dialectics must be presented to them while still young, not in the form of compulsory instruction. 12 ” “Why so?” Because, said I, 536e “a free soul ought not to pursue any study slavishly; for while bodily labors 13 performed under constraint do not harm the body, nothing that is learned under compulsion stays with the mind.” True, he said.
Republic. Plato. Paul Shorey (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1935-37.
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