Aristote Poetics 25.18

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Il arrive auſſi quelquefois, qu'on répond ſolidement aux Cenſures des Critiques, par un ſeul changement de ton ou d'accent, & c'eſt ainſi qu'Hippias de Thaſos a ſauvé Homere ſur cet endroit, où Jupiter envoye un Songe à Agamemnon, car on l'accuſoit d'avoir fait dire un menſonge par Jupiter, & cette accuſation ſeroit tres bien fondée s'il étoit vray que Jupiter dît, nous luy accordons une grande gloire; mais en changeant l'accent on trouve qu'il commande ſeulement au Songe de luy promettre cette gloire, & cela eſt bien different.

Poetics. Aristote. Paris. 1692.

Current edition Experimental

La poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (fra) (André Dacier's French translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1692.)

Provisional text from uncorrected OCR; expect errors.

Editions (4)
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) (Aristotle, Poetics. Immanuel Bekker, editor, Aristotelis Opera, volume 2. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1837.) — 25 focus
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) Perseus (Aristotle, De arte poetica liber. Rudolf Kassel, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1965. Reference edition for passage alignment.) — 25 focus
Poetics, Greek text (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's Greek text of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 25 focus
Poetics, Greek text (Franz Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's 1839 Greek edition, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 25 focus
Translations (13)
Poetics (W. H. Fyfe) (OCR draft) Perseus (William Hamilton Fyfe's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, Loeb Classical Library, 1939 printing.) — 25 focus
Arabic Poetics (Badawī edition, 1953) (OCR draft) (The ancient Arabic translation of Aristotle's Poetics in ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Badawī's 1953 edition.) — 25 focus
Poetics (S. H. Butcher, 1911) (OCR draft) Experimental (S. H. Butcher's English translation from Aristotle's Theory of Poetry and Fine Art, fourth edition, 1911.) — 25 focus
Aristotle on the Art of Poetry (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 25 focus
Poetics (Thomas Twining, 1789) (OCR draft) Experimental (Thomas Twining's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1789 and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 25.18 focus
3. To ACCENT: as the following passage
The Poetic of Aristotle (Henry James Pye, revised 1792) (OCR draft) Experimental (Henry James Pye's revised 1792 English translation, corrected against the 1788 first edition, aligned to the Kassel reference edition, and supplied with a selective apparatus of substantive 1788 readings.) — 25.18 focus
and that Icadius and not Icarius, was the name of his father-in-law.
The Poetic of Aristotle (Theodore Alois Buckley) (OCR draft) Experimental (Theodore Alois Buckley's English translation, first published in 1850 and represented from the Henry G. Bohn 1857 printing; corrected against a second OCR and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 25.18 focus
For the word πλέων is ambiguous. Or objections may be answered from the custom of diction; as when wine is called κεκραμένον, mixed17; whence has been said, Greaves of new-wrought tin. And those that work on iron are called braziers18. Whence Ganymede is said To pour out wine for Jove 19; II. 20. though the gods do not drink wine. But this may also be metaphorically said. 1 It is necessary, however,
Poetica Latine conversa (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's Latin translation, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 25 focus
Poetica d'Aristotile (Bernardo Segni, 1549) (OCR draft) Experimental (Bernardo Segni's 1549 Florentine Italian translation, aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 25 focus
De poetica (Antonio Riccobono, 1587) (OCR draft) Experimental (Antonio Riccobono's Latin translation, first published in 1587; text represented from Immanuel Bekker's 1831 edition.) — 25 focus
De arte poetica liber (William of Moerbeke, ca. 1277) (OCR draft) Experimental (William of Moerbeke's medieval Latin translation, represented by the 1953 Aristoteles Latinus edition.) — 25 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition) (OCR draft) Experimental (The Arabic translation attributed to Abū Bishr Mattā, edited by Jaroslaus Tkatsch in 1928 and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 25 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition, unaligned) (OCR draft) Experimental (Tkatsch's edition of the medieval Arabic translation in its original, unaligned segmentation.) — 25 focus

Commentary

Commentary on the Poetics (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) (Ingram Bywater's English commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

15. mvp-aristotle-comment-999

1461a7 πρὸς ὃν κτἑ.: i.e. πρὸς ὃν ... ἔπραξεν ἢ ἔλεξεν ὁ πράττων ἢ λέγων.

15. mvp-aristotle-comment-1000

1461a8 ὅτε. Plutarch ( De aud. poet. 26 F) defends the four lines in Il. 9. 458-61 , which Aristarchus is said to have excised, as being πρὸς τὸν καιρόν; comp. Porphyr. in Il. 9. 203 , p. 135 Schr.
οἱ μὲν γὰρ ἀπὸ τῆς λέξεως λύουσι ... οἱ δὲ ἀπὸ τοῦ καιροῦ, ὅτι νύξ.

15. mvp-aristotle-comment-1001

1461a8 μείζονος ἀγαθοῦ: An. pr. 2. 22, 68b35
αἱρετώτερον δὲ τὸ μεῖζον ἀγαθὸν καὶ ἔλαττον κακὸν ἢ τὸ ἔλαττον ἀγαθὸν καὶ μεῖζον κακόν
 (comp. Rhet. 1. 10, 1369 b 25 ). —Porphyr. in Od. 13. 119, p. 117 Schr. πολλάκις γὰρ τῶν ἐν μιᾷ πράξει καὶ δυσχερὲς ὑπάρχει τι καὶ ἀγαθόν, καὶ μᾶλλόν ἐστιν αἱρετὸν τὸ ἀγαθὸν ἢ τὸ κακὸν φευκτόν· διόπερ οὐκ ἀποδοκιμάζομεν τὰς τοιαῦτας πράξεις.
1461a9

Remarques sur la poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (André Dacier's French commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

22a. mvp-aristotle-comment-618

25.15 22a. Pour bien connoître ſi une choſe eſt bien ou mal dite, bien ou mal faite, il ne faut pas se contenter d'examiner la choſe même, & de voir ſi elle est bonne ou mauvaiſe, il faut avoir égard à celuy qui parle ou qui agit.] 1

23. mvp-aristotle-comment-619

25.15 23. Il faut encore avoir égard à celuy qui parle ou qui agit, & à celuy à qui il s'adreſſe.] 2

24. mvp-aristotle-comment-620

25.15 24. Et bien peſer le temps.] 3

25. mvp-aristotle-comment-621

25.15 25. Le moyen.] 4

26. mvp-aristotle-comment-622

25.15 26. Et la fin.] 5

Commentary on the Poetics (Henry James Pye, 1792) (OCR draft) (Henry James Pye's 1792 English commentary, aligned to the Kassel reference edition.) focus

25.11. mvp-aristotle-comment-119 25.15

OR BY THE ESTABLISHED CUSTOM OF SPEECH, AS-ARTIFICERS IN STEEL ARE CALLED BRAZIERS.

ON the fame principle we call actors of comedy and tragedy equally [A] comedians. And we also use gold for money in general. May not we infer our fuperior wealth from the circumstance of this being peculiar to ourselves. All the other nations of Europe, with whose language I am at all acquainted, using silver in the same sense. • I have no filver,' would be a very unfaithful translation of ' Je n'ai point d'argent.' In Latin, æs, (brass) is equivalent with money.

Commentarius in Aristotelis Poeticam (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) (Ritter's Latin commentary, extracted from the 1839 volume, divided by Ritter's chapters and sections, and linked to the corresponding Perseus reference subsections.) focus

8. mvp-aristotle-comment-191

Ritter, cap. 25 § 8

περὶ δὲ τοῦ καλῶς – ἵνα ἀπογένηται: haecAristotele non indigna conserentur, si alio loco legerentur. quamquam ad morum doctrinam potius pertinent quam ad poesis explicationem. – πρὸς ὃν ἢ ὅτε: pertinent ad λέγοντα, sequentia ὅτῳ ἢ οὗ ἕνεκα ad πράττοντα. notabis chiasmum.