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Eumenides. Aeschylus. ed. Friedrich Blass. Berlin. 1907.

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Kommentar zu den Eumeniden (OCR draft) (German) (German commentary on Aeschylus' Eumenides by Friedrich Blass, 1907.)

Provisional text from uncorrected OCR; expect errors.

Editions (12)
Εὐμενίδες First1KGreek (Aeschyli Tragoediae. Sidgwick, Arthur, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1902.) — 892-915 focus
Εὐμενίδες Perseus (Aeschylus, Volume 2. Smyth, Herbert Weir, editor. London; New York: William Heinemann; G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1926.) — 892-915 focus
Εὐμενίδες (1518 edition; OCR draft) Experimental (Aeschylus, Eumenides, 1518 edition. VLM-assisted OCR with native lineation and automated correspondence to the Smyth edition.) — 881 focus
Εὐμενίδες (OCR draft) Experimental (Εὐμενίδες. Guilielmus Dindorfius, 1882.) — 881 focus
Εὐμενίδες (OCR draft) Experimental (Εὐμενίδες. Gottfried Hermann, 1852.) — 881 focus
ΕΥΜΕΝΙΔΕΣ (OCR draft) Experimental (ΕΥΜΕΝΙΔΕΣ. Paul Mazon, 1920-1925.) — 881 focus
Εὐμενίδες (OCR draft) Experimental (Εὐμενίδες. Arthur Sidgwick, 1887.) — 881 focus
Εὐμενίδες (OCR draft) Experimental (Εὐμενίδες. N. Wecklein, 1885.) — 881 focus
οὗτοι καμοῦμαι σοι λέγουσα τἀγαθά,
ὡς μήποτ᾽ εἴπῃς πρὸς νεωτέρας ἐμοῦ
θεὸς παλαιὰ καὶ πολισσούχων βροτῶν
ἄτιμος ἔρρειν τοῦδ᾽ ἀπόξενος πέδου.
885
ἀλλ᾽ εἰ μὲν ἁγνόν ἐστί σοι Πειθοῦς σέβας,
γλώσσης ἐμῆς μείλιγμα καὶ θελκτήριον,
σὺ δ᾽ οὖν μένοις ἄν· εἰ δὲ μὴ θέλεις μένειν,
οὔ τἂν δικαίως τῇδ᾽ ἐπιρρέποις πόλει
μῆνίν τιν᾽ ἢ κότον τιν᾽ ἢ βλάβην στρατῷ.
890
ἔξεστι γάρ σοι τῆσδε γαμόρῳ χθονὸς
εἶναι δικαίως ἐς τὸ πᾶν τιμωμένη.
Εὐμενίδες (OCR draft) Experimental (Εὐμενίδες. Martin L. West, 1990.) — 881 focus
Aeschyli Eumenides (OCR draft) Experimental (Aeschyli Eumenides. Ulrich von Wilamowitz-Moellendorff, 1914.) — 881 focus
Εὐμενίδες (OCR draft) Experimental (Greek text of Aeschylus' Eumenides, edited by F. A. Paley, 1885.) — 881 focus
οὗτοι καμοῦμαί σοι λέγουσα τἀγαθά·
ὡς μήποτ᾽ εἴπῃς πρὸς νεωτέρας ἐμοῦ
θεὸς παλαιὰ καὶ πολισσούχων βροτῶν
845
ἄτιμος ἔρρειν τοῦδ᾽ ἀπόξενος πέδου.
ἀλλ᾽ εἰ μὲν ἁγνόν ἐστί σοι Πειθοῦς σέβας,
γλώσσης ἐμῆς μείλιγμα καὶ θελκτήριον,
σὺ δ᾽ οὖν μένοις ἄν· εἰ δὲ μὴ θέλεις μένειν,
οὐτἂν δικαίως τῇδ᾽ ἐπιρρέποις πόλει
850
μῆνίν τιν᾿ ἢ κότον τιν' ἢ βλάβην στρατῷ.
ἔξεστι γάρ σοι τῆσδε γαμόρῳ χθονὸς
εἶναι δικαίως ἐς τὸ πᾶν τιμωμένῃ.
Εὐμενίδες (OCR draft) Experimental (Greek text of Aeschylus' Eumenides, edited by Friedrich Blass, 1907.) — 881 focus
οὔτοι καμοῦμαί σοι λέγουσα τἀγαθά,
ὡς μήποτ᾽ εἴπηις πρὸς νεωτέρας ἐμοῦ
θεὸς παλαιὰ καὶ πολισσούχων βροτῶν
ἄτιμος ἔρρειν τοῦδ᾽ ἀπόξενος πέδου.
ἀλλ᾽ εἰ μὲν ἁγνόν ἐστί σοι Πειθοῦς σέβας,
885
γλώσσης ἐμῆς μείλιγμα καὶ θελκτήριον,
σὺ δ᾽ οὖν μένοις ἄν· εἰ δὲ μὴ θέλεις μένειν,
οὐ τἂν δικαίως τῆιδ᾽ ἐπιρρέποις πόλει
μῆνίν τιν᾿ ἢ κότον τιν᾿ ἢ βλάβην στρατῶι.
ἔξεστι γάρ σοι τῆσδε γαμόρωι χθονός
890
εἶναι δικαίως ἐς τὸ πᾶν τιμωμένηι.
Translations (10)
Eumenides Perseus (Aeschylus, Volume 2. Smyth, Herbert Weir, translator. London; New York: William Heinemann; G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1926. (Modernized by Perseus.)) — 892-915 focus
The Eumenides (OCR draft) Experimental (The Eumenides. Theodore Alois Buckley, 1849.) — 881 focus
By no means shall I be tired of speaking what is good for you; that you may never say, that you an ancient goddess, did through me a younger, and through men that dwell in cities, depart dishonoured, inhospitably driven from this land. But if indeed the reverence of Persuasion is holy in your eyes, the soothing and winning power of my tongue, you then would remain: but if you are unwilling to remain, neither justly would you bring upon this city any vengeance or anger, or hurt upon the people. For it is in your ehoiee to be a sharer of this land with me at least, duly honoured for ever.
LES EUMÉNIDES (OCR draft) Experimental (LES EUMÉNIDES. Paul Mazon, 1920-1925.) — 881 focus
de te dire ton intérêt, de peur que tu n'ailles prétendre que ma jeune divinité et les hommes de cette ville ont chassé sans honneur et banni de ce sol une antique déesse. Si tu sais
respecter la Persuasion sainte, qui donne à ma parole sa magique douceur, va, tu resteras ici. Mais, si tu t'y refuses, vraiment tu serais inique en laissant tomber sur ce pays dépit, courroux ou vengeance qui seraient cruels à mon
peuple, alors qu'il t'est permis de jouir sans conteste du droit de bourgeoisie au milieu d'une cité qui à jamais t'honorera.
The Furies (OCR draft) Experimental (The Furies. Robert Potter, 1779.) — 881 focus
I will not yet ſurceaſe to ſpeak thee fair;
And never with juſt cauſe ſhalt thou complain
That with inhoſpitable pride my youth,
1010
And the rude race of mortals dwelling here,
Drove thee, an ancient Goddeſs, with diſgrace
An outcaſt from this land.
If yet the pow'r
Of mild perſuaſion, dropping from my lips
1015
In words of ſweet and ſoothing courteſy,
Hath not loft all its virtue, thou wilt ſtay:
If thou diſdain to ſtay, yet not with juſtice
Canſt thou with wrath or vengeance load this town,
Nor on its people ſhed thy baneful dews.
1020
'Tis in thy choice to bleſs this land, and fix
With everlaſting honours here thy ſeat.
Eschilo, Le Eumenidi: traduzione italiana di Ettore Romagnoli (OCR draft) Experimental (Eschilo, Le Eumenidi: traduzione italiana di Ettore Romagnoli. Ettore Romagnoli, 1922.) — 881 focus
Mai stanca mi farà parlarti il bene:
dir non potrai che tu, vetusta Diva,
spregiata da me giovine, e dal mio
930
popolo, vai da questo suolo in bando.
Ma, se pur tu la Dea Suada veneri,
che dal mio labbro col suo miel ti molce,
resta fra noi. Ché se restar non vuoi,
giusto non è che l'ira tua su Atene
935
piombi, né il danno od il furor sul popolo:
ch'esser tu puoi di questo suol partecipe
direttamente, e onore aver perenne.
Aeschylus, Eumenides: versio Latina Ioannis Sanravii (OCR draft) Experimental (Aeschylus, Eumenides: versio Latina Ioannis Sanravii. Ioannes Sanravius, 1555.) — 881 focus
Non defatigabor tibi dicens quæ bona ſunt,
Vt ne tandem dicas ad iuniores me
Dea antiqua patrona mortalium,
Ignominioſa perit inhoſpitalis huius ſoli.
Sed ſi tibi cultus perſuaſionis caſtus est,
830
Meæ linguæ placamen, & oblectamentum.
Tu uerò ſi manſeris, ſiue nolueris manere,
Neq; iuſtè inijcias urbi
Iram aliquam, aut indignatione tandem, aut detrimenti
Licet tibi ab hac integræ terræ & exercitui
835
Eſse iuſtè omnino honorata.
Aeschylus, Die Eumeniden: German translation (OCR draft) Experimental (Aeschylus, Die Eumeniden: German translation. Ulrich von Wilamowitz-Moellendorff, 1919–1923.) — 881 focus
Zum Guten dir zu reden lass' ich nimmer ab.
Du sollst nicht sagen, du, die alte Göttin, seist
von mir, der jüng'ren, und dem Volke meiner Stadt
in Schanden trotz dem Gastrecht aus dem Land gejagt.
885 Wenn du Empfindung für die Macht der Peitho hast,
der guten Worte sanfte Herrin, die zu dir
beschwichtigend, versöhnend spricht durch meinen
Mund,
dann wirst du bleiben; aber wenn du scheiden willst,
English (E. D. A. Morshead, 1889, second edition) (OCR draft) Experimental (Aeschylus, The Furies — Morshead translation. Wikisource transcription; speech corresp and card milestones aligned to Smyth perseus-grc2.) — 881 focus
I will not weary of soft words to thee,
That never mayst thou say, Behold me spurned,
An elder by a younger deity,
And from this land rejected and forlorn,
Unhonoured by the men who dwell therein.
1015
But, if Persuasion's grace be sacred to thee,
Soft in the soothing accents of my tongue,
Tarry, I pray thee; yet, if go thou wilt,
Not rightfully wilt thou on this my town
Sway down the scale that beareth wrath and teen
1020
Or wasting plague upon this folk. 'Tis thine,
If so thou wilt, inheritress to be
Of this my land, its utmost grace to win.
German (J. J. C. Donner, 1854; OCR review) (OCR draft) Experimental (Aeschylos. Deutsch in den Versmaßen der Urschrift. Stuttgart: Hoffmann, 1854. Native Donner line citations, Smyth card correspondence, selected textual readings and metrical facsimiles. Remaining OCR differences and unattributed reading notes are documented in the linked review inventory.) — 881 focus
Nicht müde werd' ich, rathe dir zum Heile nur;
Nie sollst du sagen, du, die greise Göttin, seist
Von mir, der jüngern, und dem Volke meiner Stadt
Ungastlich schmachvoll weggejagt aus diesem Land.
840
Nein, wenn dir Peitho's hehre Macht als heilig gilt
In meines Mundes Schmeichelton und Zauberlaut,
So bleibst du hier im Lande: doch, verschmähst du dies,
Dann wär' es Unrecht, wolltest du auf diese Stadt
Groll oder Unmuth wälzen und ihr Leides thun.
845
Dir steht ja frei, dich reichen Grundbesiyes hier
Zu freu'n, nach Würden hochverehrt in alle Zeit.
English (Smyth; revised Bannon and Nagy, CHS) (OCR draft) Experimental (CHS Primary Sources revision of Herbert Weir Smyth’s translation by Cynthia Bannon and Gregory Nagy, with transliterated Greek terms tagged and aligned to the Smyth edition.)

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Commentary

Commentary on Aeschylus: Eumenides (Aeschylus. Eumenides. Sidgwick, Arthur, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1887.)

883. πολισσούχοι , see note on 1. 775.

887. σὺ δ᾽ οὖν μένοις ἄν , dramatic [if I persuade you], 'well then, abide.' [The dé in apodosis is originally Epic usage, common in the Poets: so Ag. 1061 εἰ δὲ μὴ δέχει λόγον, σὺ δ᾽ ἀντὶ φωνῆς, κ.τ.λ.]

890. γαμόρῳ: . Doric form for γεώμορος.

Critical apparatus to Eumenides (OCR draft) (Latin and Greek critical apparatus to Gottfried Hermann's 1852 edition of Eumenides.) focus

mvp-comment-664-1 καμοῦμαι:

καλοῦμαι
Ven. Flor. Farn.

mvp-comment-665-1 πολισσούχων:

πολισσοῦχον
error Ald. Inde
πολισσούχος
Turn.

mvp-comment-666-1 NA: Ita haec construenda sunt,

εἰ πειθοῦς γλώσσης ἐμῆς ἁγνὸν σέβας ἐστί σοι μείλιγμα καὶ θελκτήριον
.

mvp-comment-667-1 μένοις:

μένεις
, supra adscripto
οις
, G.

mvp-comment-668-1 θέλεις:

θέλεις
Aug. G. Ven. Flor. Ald. Rob. Τurn.
θέλης
, supra adscripto
ει
, Μ.
θέλς
Farn.

mvp-comment-669-1 οὐτἂν:

οὐτὴν
Wellauerus. Libri
οὔτ᾽ ἄν
.

mvp-comment-670-1 ἐπιρρέποις:

ἐπιρρέποις
Μ. Aug. Rob. Turn.
ἐπιρρέπεις
G. Ald.
ἐπιρρέπειν
Ven. Flor. Farn.
πόλοι
Rob.

mvp-comment-671-1 κότον τιν᾽:

κότον τε ἢ
G. Ald. sed in G.
τε
ex
τo
factum est.
κότον πότ'
inde fecit Turn. Ceteri recte
κότον τίν'
vel
κότον τιν'
.

mvp-comment-672-1 τῆσδε γαμόρῳ:

τῆσδε γαμόρῳ
recte Dobraeus.
τῇδέ γ'
(vel
τῆδε γ'
)
ἀμοίρου
M. Par. Aug. G. Ven. Flor.
τῇδε δ᾽ ἀμοίρου
Rob.
τῇδε γ' ἀμοίρῳ
Farn.
τῇδέ γ' εὐμοίρου
Turn.

Commentary on the Eumenides (OCR draft) (Brief English notes on Aeschylus' Eumenides by F. A. Paley, 1885.) focus

mvp-comment-265-1 ἁγνόν] Perhaps ἁγνῆς, ‘if you have any respect for holy Persuasion, or for the eloquence of the Virgin- Goddess.

mvp-comment-266-1 τίνα κ.τ.λ.] There is a pause for deliberation. The nature of the new abode, its privileges, and the guaranty for their endurance, are points of inquiry before the final acceptance.

Selected scholia accompanying Blass's Eumenides (OCR draft) (The mixed Greek, Latin, and German scholia register printed with Friedrich Blass's 1907 edition, aligned to O. L. Smith's later recensional editions.) focus

mvp-comment-314-1 τὸ ἑξῆς, πρὸς νεωτέρας ἐμοῦ καὶ πολισσούχων βροτῶν θεὸς παλαιὰ ἄτιμος ἔρρειν.

mvp-comment-315-1 εἰ πείθηι τῶι μειλίγματι τῆς ἐμῆς γλώσσης, παράμεινον καὶ τῶν καταλεχθέντων ἀγαθῶν μεταλάμβανε· εἰ δὲ μὴ πείθηι, ἴσθι μὴ βλάψουσα πόλιν.

Wecklein’s commentary on Eumenides (1888; German; OCR draft) (Explanatory commentary, pp. 251–322; HW42J8 and HXJHA8 OCR collated, with missing comparison pages 294–295 explicitly marked. Unresolved OCR and provisional reference mappings are explicitly marked.) focus

mvp-comment-428-1 Wecklein 1888, p. 306

mvp-comment-428-2 Kommos, Aussöhnung der gekränkten und tief ergrimmten Erinyen durch die begütigenden Worte der Athena. Der Chor singt zwei Strophen, die er als Antistrophen wiederholt. Jeder Strophe und Antistrophe folgen 13 Verse der Athena, wornach die Partie mit 12 Versen Stichomythie und 12 Versen einer ῥῆσις der Athena abgeschlossen wird. Vgl. zu Ag. 1435 .

mvp-comment-467-1 Wecklein 1888, p. 312

mvp-comment-467-2 λέγουσα ταγαθά d. i. begütigend.

mvp-comment-468-1 Wecklein 1888, p. 312

mvp-comment-468-2 πρὸς νεωτέρας ἐμοῦ καὶ πολισσούχων βροτῶν (s. v. a. ἀστῶν) bei ἔρρειν, weil dieses passive Bedeutung hat. Vgl. auch zu οἰχνεῖν ἀτίετον 841 f. ἀπόξενος πέδου wie Ag. 1281 , Cho. 1040 , aber dort ,,aus diesem Lande verbannt in die Fremde", hier ,,von diesem Lande ungastlich weggewiesen."

mvp-comment-469-1 Wecklein 1888, p. 312

mvp-comment-469-2 Vgl. frg. 134 D. σέβας δὲ μηρῶν ἁγνὸν οὐκ ἐπῃδέσω, Soph. Oed. T. 830 ὦ θεῶν ἁγνὸν σέβας, Phil. 1289

ἁγνὸν Ζηνὸς ὑψίστου σέβας
, Eur. Kykl. 580
τὸ πᾶν τε δαιμόνων ἁγνὸν σέβας
. Nach diesem V. ist, wie Butler bemerkt hat, eine Lücke; zur Zahl 13 fehlen zwei Verse. Der Gedanke ist:,,so dürfte meiner Zunge erweichende Besänftigung hinreichend sein dich zu überreden."

mvp-comment-470-1 Wecklein 1888, p. 312

mvp-comment-470-2 σὺ δ᾽ οὖν μένοις ἄν: diese Worte führen nur zu dem neuen Gedanken über; es könnte auch heifsen: μάλιστα μὲν οὖν μένοις ἄν· εἰ δὲ μὴ κτἑ. Den Imperativ wie er 226 σὺ δ᾽ οὖν δίωκε, Eur Herc. 726 σὺ δ᾽ οὖν ἔθ᾽· ἔρχῃ δ᾽ οἱ χρεών, Rhes. 868 σὺ δ᾽ οὖν νόμιζε ταῦτ᾽, ἐπείπερ σοι δοκεῖ steht, vertritt hier der Potentialis.

mvp-comment-470-3 1

mvp-comment-471-1 Wecklein 1888, p. 312

mvp-comment-471-2 ἐπιρρέποις: zu Ag. 261 . Während πόλει zu ἐπιρρέποις gehört, steht croata in engerer Verbindung mit μῆνιν .. βλάβην.

mvp-comment-471-3 2

mvp-comment-472-1 Wecklein 1888, p. 312

mvp-comment-472-2 δικαίως d. i. vollberechtigte Besitzerin zu sein. - Für τιμωμένῃ hat es vielleicht ursprünglich - παμένῃ (d. i. κεκτημένῃ τὴν χθόνα) geheifsen.

Commentary (Arthur Sidgwick, 1887) (OCR draft) (Arthur Sidgwick's commentary on the Eumenides, aligned to the canonical Greek text.) focus

πολισσούχοι , see note on l. 775

.

mvp-sidgwick-408-1-1 The soothing and spell of my tongue is in apposition to the Majesty of Persuasion, Πειθοῦς σέβας. The whole sentence is in the imaginative grandiloquent style, and simply means if I can persuade you.

σὺ δ᾽ οὖν μένοις ἄν , dramatic [if I persuade you], well then, abide. [The dé in apodosis is originally Epic usage, common in the Poets: so Ag. 1061

εἰ δὲ μὴ δέχει λόγον, σὺ δ᾽ ἀντὶ φωνῆς, κ.τ.λ.
]

γαμόρῳ: . Doric form for γεώμορος.