Lucian Soleocista 10

ed. Karl Jacobitz

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Σολοικιστής

Παῦσαι πρὸς τῆς Ἀθηνᾶς· ἀλλ’ εἰπέ τι τοιοῦτον, ὥστε κἀμὲ μαθεῖν.

Λυκῖνος

Καὶ πῶς ἄν μάθοις;

Σολοικιστής

Εἴ μοι πάντα ἐπέλθοις, ὅσα φὴς σολοικίσας ἐμὲ λαθεῖν καὶ παρ’ ὅ τι ἕκαστον σεσολοίκισται.

Λυκῖνος

Μηδαμῶς, ὦ ἄριστε· μακρὸν γὰρ ἢν ποιήσαιμεν τὸν διάλογον. ἀλλὰ περὶ μὲν τούτων ἔξεστί σοι καθ’ ἕκαστον αὐτῶν πυνθάνεσθαι· νῦν δὲ ἕτερ’ ἄττα ἐπέλθωμεν, εἰ δοκεῖ, καὶ πρῶτόν γε αὐτὸ τοῦτο τὸ ἄττα μὴ δασέως, ἀλλὰ ψιλῶς ἐξενεγκεῖν· ὀρθῶς φαίνεται ῥηθὲν μετὰ τοῦ ἕτερα συντιθέμενον· μὴ γὰρ οὕτως ἄλογον ἦν ἄν. ἔπειτα τὸ τῆς ὕβρεως, ἥν με φὴς ὑβρίσαι σε, εἰ μὴ οὕτω λέγοιμι, ἀλλ’ εἰς σέ, φαίην ἴδιον.

Σολοικιστής

Ἐγὼ μὲν οὐκ ἔχω εἰπεῖν.

Λυκῖνος

Ὅτι τὸ μὲν σὲ ὑβρίζειν τὸ σῶμά ἐστι τὸ σὸν ἤτοι πληγαῖς ἢ δεσμοῖς ἢ καὶ ἄλλῳ τρόπῳ, τὸ δὲ ἐς σέ, ὅταν εἴς τι τῶν σῶν γίγνηται ἡ ὕβρις· καὶ γὰρ ὅστις γυναῖκα v.2.p.581 φίλον καὶ ὅστις γε οἰκέτην. πλὴν γὰρ περὶ πραγμάτων οὕτως ἔχει σοι· ἐπεὶ τὸ ἐς πρᾶγμα ὑβρίζειν λέλεκται, οἷον ἐς τὴν παροιμίαν, ὡς ὁ Πλάτων φησὶν ἐν τῷ Συμποσίῳ.

Σολοικιστής

Κατανοῶ τὸ διάφορον.

Λυκῖνος

Ἆρ’ οὖν καὶ τοῦτο κατανοεῖς, ὅτι τὸ ταῦτά ὑπαλλάττειν σολοικίζειν καλοῦσιν;

Σολοικιστής

Ἀλλὰ δὲ τὸ ὑπαλλάττειν εἴ τις ἐναλλάττειν λέγει, τί σοι δόξει λέγειν;

Σολοικιστής

Ἐμοὶ μὲν ταὐτὸν λέγειν δόξει.

Λυκῖνος

Καὶ πῶς ἂν εἴη ταὐτὸν τῷ ὑπαλλάττειν τὸ ἐναλλάττειν, εἴπερ τὸ μὲν ἑτέρου πρὸς ἕτερον γίγνεται, τοῦ μὴ ὀρθοῦ πρὸς τὸ ὀρθόν, τὸ δὲ τοῦ μὴ ὄντος πρὸς τὸ ὄν;

Σολοικιστής

Κατέμαθον ὅτι τὸ μὲν ὑπαλλάττειν τὸ μὴ κύριον ἀντὶ τοῦ κυρίου λέγειν ἐστί, τὸ δ’ ἐναλλάττειν ποτὲ μὲν τῷ κυρίῳ, ποτὲ δὲ τῷ μὴ κυρίῳ χρῆσθαι.

Λυκῖνος

Ἔχει τινὰ καὶ ταῦτα κατανόησιν οὐκ ἄχαριν, τὸ δὲ σπουδάζειν πρός τινα τὴν οἰκείαν ὠφέλειαν τοῦ v.2.p.582 σπουδάζοντος ἐμφαίνει, τὸ δὲ περί τινα τὴν ἐκείνου περὶ ὅν σπουδάζει. καὶ ταῦτα ἴσως μὲν ὑποσυγκέχυται, ἴσως δὲ καὶ ἀκριβοῦται παρά τισί· βέλτιον δὲ τὸ ἀκριβοῦν ἑκάστῳ.

Σολοικιστής

Ὀρθῶς γὰρ λέγεις.

Soleocista. Lucian. ed. Karl Jacobitz. Leipzig. 1913.

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Ψευδοσοφιστής ἢ Σολοικιστής (Greek) (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 3. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1913.)

Translations (1)

The Purist Purized Perseus (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 4. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.) — 10 focus

Purist

Oh, stop, for goodness’ sake! Look here, try this way; I want to get my profit out of it too.

Lycinus

Well?

Purist

Suppose you were to go through all the blunders you say I have missed, and tell me what is the right thing for each.

Lycinus

Good gracious, no; it would take us till midnight. No; you can look those out for yourself. Meanwhile, we had better take fresh ones, as we have only a quarter of an hour (by the way, never pronounce the ‘h’ in hour; that sounds dreadful). Then as to that outrage which you say I have committed upon you; if I were to speak of an outrage committed against you, that would be another thing.

Purist

Would it?

Lycinus

Yes; an outrage upon you must be committed upon you personally, in the shape of blows, interference with your liberty, or the like. An outrage agaiust you is upon something that belongs to you; he who does an outrage upon your wife, child, friend, or slave, does it against you. This distinction, however, does not apply to inanimate things. An ‘outrage against’

a legitimate phrase with them, as when Plato talks in the Symposium of an outrage against a proverb.

Purist

Ah, I see now.

Lycinus

Do you also see that the exchange of one for the other is a solecism?

Purist

Yes, I shall know that for the future.

Lycinus

And if a person were to use ‘interchange’ there instead of ‘exchange,’ what would you take him to mean?

Purist

Just the same.

Lycinus

Why, how can they be equivalent? Exchange is merely the substitution of one expression for another, the improper for the proper; whereas interchange involves a false statement¹.

Purist

I see now; exchange is the use of a loose instead of a precise expression, while interchange is the use of both expressions, each in the other’s place.

Lycinus

These subtleties are not unpleasing. Similarly, when we are concerned with a person, it is in our own interest; but when we are concerned for him, it is in his. It is true the phrases are sometimes confused, but there are those who observe the distinction; and it is as well to be on the safe side.

Purist

Quite true.