Lucian, Hermotimus, Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator), 21

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Hermotimus

You trifle, Lycinus. I made a pious choice, and do not repent it; that is enough for me.

Lycinus

And will you yet make a mystery of it to your friend, and let him be lost with the vulgar herd?

Hermotimus

Why, you will not accept anything I say.

Lycinus

On the contrary, my good sir, it is you who will not say anything I can accept. Well, as you refuse me your confidence, and are so jealous of my becoming a philosopher and your equal, I must even do my best to find out the infallible test and learn to choose safely for myself. And you may listen, if you like.

Hermotimus

That I will, Lycinus; you will very likely hit on some good idea.

Lycinus

Then attend, and do not mock me, if my inquiry is quite unscientific; it is all I can do, as you, who know better, will not give me any clearer light.

Hermotimus. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

Current edition Perseus

Hermotimus, or the Rival Philosophies (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 2. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

Editions (2)

Ἑρμότιμος ἢ Περὶ Αἱρέσεων Perseus (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 1. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1909.) — 21 focus

Ἑρμότιμος

παίζεις, ὦ Λυκῖνε. ἐγὼ δὲ κατὰ θεὸν εἱλόμην, καὶ οὐ μεταμέλει μοι τῆς αἱρέσεως· ἱκανὸν δὲ τοῦτο πρὸς γοῦν ἐμέ.

Λυκῖνος

ὅμως οὐκ ἂν εἴποις, ὦ ἑταῖρε, καὶ πρὸς ἐμέ, 760 ἀλλὰ περιόψει με παραπολόμενον ἐν τῷ πολλῷ συρφετῷ;

Ἑρμότιμος

οὐδὲν γάρ σοι ἀρέσκει ὧν ἂν εἴπω.

Λυκῖνος

οὔκ, ὦγαθέ, ἀλλʼ οὐδὲν ἐθέλεις εἰπεῖν ὁποῖον ἄν μοι ἀρέσειεν. ἐπεὶ δʼ οὖν σὺ ἑκὼν ἀποκρύπτῃ καὶ φθονεῖς ἡμῖν, ὡς μὴ ἐξ ἴσου γενοίμεθά σοι φιλοσοφήσαντες, ἐγὼ πειράσομαι, ὅπως ἂν οἷός τε ὦ, κατʼ ἐμαυτὸν ἐξευρεῖν τὴν ἀκριβῆ περὶ τούτων κρίσιν καὶ τὴν ἀσφαλεστάτην αἵρεσιν. ἄκουε δὲ καὶ σύ, εἰ βούλει.

Ἑρμότιμος

ἀλλὰ βούλομαι, ὦ Λυκῖνε· ἴσως γάρ τι γνώριμον ἐρεῖς.

Λυκῖνος

σκόπει δὴ καὶ μὴ καταγελάσῃς, εἰ παντάπασιν ἰδιωτικῶς ἀναζητῶ αὐτό· ἀνάγκη γὰρ οὕτως, ἐπεὶ μὴ σὺ ἐθέλεις σαφέστερον εἰπεῖν εἰδὼς ἄμεινον.

Σκύθης ἢ πρόξενος Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 21 focus

ἱκανὸν δὲ τοῦτο πρὸς γοῦν ἐμέ.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Ὅμως οὐκ ἂν εἴποις, ὦ ἑταῖρε, καὶ πρὸς ἐμέ, ἀλλὰ περιόψει με παραπολόμενον ἐν τῷ πολλῷ συρφετῷ;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Οὐδὲν γάρ σοι ἀρέσκει ὧν ἂν εἴπω.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Οὔκ, ὦγαθέ, ἀλλ’ οὐδὲν ἐθέλεις εἰπεῖν ὁποῖον ἄν μοι ἀρέσειεν. ἐπεὶ δ’ οὖν σὺ ἑκὼν ἀποκρύπτῃ καὶ φθονεῖς ἡμῖν ὡς μὴ ἐξ ἴσου γενοίμεθά σοι φιλοσοφήσαντες, ἐγὼ πειράσομαι ὅπως ἂν οἷός τε ὦ κατ' ἐμαυτὸν ἐξευρεῖν τὴν ἀκριβῆ περὶ τούτων κρίσιν καὶ τὴν ἀσφαλεστάτην αἵρεσιν. ἄκουε δὲ καὶ σύ, εἰ βούλει.

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Ἀλλὰ βούλομαι, ὦ Λυκῖνε. ἴσως γάρ τι γνώριμον ἐρεῖς.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Σκόπει δὴ καὶ μὴ καταγελάσῃς, εἰ παντάπασιν ἰδιωτικῶς ἀναζητῶ αὐτό· ἀνάγκη γὰρ οὕτως, ἐπεὶ μὴ σὺ ἐθέλεις σαφέστερον εἰπεῖν εἰδὼς ἄμεινον.

Translations (1)

The Scythian or Consul Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, translator. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 21 focus

I at any rate am satisfied.

LYCINUS

But will you not tell me too, my friend? Or will you leave me rotting among the vulgar rabble?

HERMOTIMUS

Nothing I say pleases you.

LYCINUS

Not so, my good sir; you refuse to say anything to please me. So, since you are deliberately keeping me in the dark and you grudge me the chance of becoming as good a philosopher as you are, I shall try as well as I can to find out for myself the true test for these matters and the safest choice to make. Now please listen to me.

HERMOTIMUS

I am willing, Lycinus. Perhaps you will say something important.

LYCINUS

Then give me your attention and don’t mock me if my investigation is altogether that of a layman; it can’t be helped when you will not explain more precisely although you know better.

Lucian Hermotimus 21

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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Ἑρμότιμος

παίζεις, ὦ Λυκῖνε. ἐγὼ δὲ κατὰ θεὸν εἱλόμην, καὶ οὐ μεταμέλει μοι τῆς αἱρέσεως· ἱκανὸν δὲ τοῦτο πρὸς γοῦν ἐμέ.

Λυκῖνος

ὅμως οὐκ ἂν εἴποις, ὦ ἑταῖρε, καὶ πρὸς ἐμέ, 760 ἀλλὰ περιόψει με παραπολόμενον ἐν τῷ πολλῷ συρφετῷ;

Ἑρμότιμος

οὐδὲν γάρ σοι ἀρέσκει ὧν ἂν εἴπω.

Ἑρμότιμος

ἀλλὰ βούλομαι, ὦ Λυκῖνε· ἴσως γάρ τι γνώριμον ἐρεῖς.

Λυκῖνος

σκόπει δὴ καὶ μὴ καταγελάσῃς, εἰ παντάπασιν ἰδιωτικῶς ἀναζητῶ αὐτό· ἀνάγκη γὰρ οὕτως, ἐπεὶ μὴ σὺ ἐθέλεις σαφέστερον εἰπεῖν εἰδὼς ἄμεινον.

ἱκανὸν δὲ τοῦτο πρὸς γοῦν ἐμέ.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Ὅμως οὐκ ἂν εἴποις, ὦ ἑταῖρε, καὶ πρὸς ἐμέ, ἀλλὰ περιόψει με παραπολόμενον ἐν τῷ πολλῷ συρφετῷ;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Οὐδὲν γάρ σοι ἀρέσκει ὧν ἂν εἴπω.

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Ἀλλὰ βούλομαι, ὦ Λυκῖνε. ἴσως γάρ τι γνώριμον ἐρεῖς.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Σκόπει δὴ καὶ μὴ καταγελάσῃς, εἰ παντάπασιν ἰδιωτικῶς ἀναζητῶ αὐτό· ἀνάγκη γὰρ οὕτως, ἐπεὶ μὴ σὺ ἐθέλεις σαφέστερον εἰπεῖν εἰδὼς ἄμεινον.

I at any rate am satisfied.

LYCINUS

But will you not tell me too, my friend? Or will you leave me rotting among the vulgar rabble?

HERMOTIMUS

Nothing I say pleases you.

HERMOTIMUS

I am willing, Lycinus. Perhaps you will say something important.

LYCINUS

Then give me your attention and don’t mock me if my investigation is altogether that of a layman; it can’t be helped when you will not explain more precisely although you know better.

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Ἑρμότιμος παίζεις, ὦ Λυκῖνε. ἐγὼ δὲ κατὰ θεὸν εἱλόμην, καὶ οὐ μεταμέλει μοι τῆς αἱρέσεως· ἱκανὸν δὲ τοῦτο πρὸς γοῦν ἐμέ.

Λυκῖνος ὅμως οὐκ ἂν εἴποις, ὦ ἑταῖρε, καὶ πρὸς ἐμέ, 760 ἀλλὰ περιόψει με παραπολόμενον ἐν τῷ πολλῷ συρφετῷ;

Ἑρμότιμος οὐδὲν γάρ σοι ἀρέσκει ὧν ἂν εἴπω.

Ἑρμότιμος ἀλλὰ βούλομαι, ὦ Λυκῖνε· ἴσως γάρ τι γνώριμον ἐρεῖς.

Λυκῖνος σκόπει δὴ καὶ μὴ καταγελάσῃς, εἰ παντάπασιν ἰδιωτικῶς ἀναζητῶ αὐτό· ἀνάγκη γὰρ οὕτως, ἐπεὶ μὴ σὺ ἐθέλεις σαφέστερον εἰπεῖν εἰδὼς ἄμεινον.

ἱκανὸν δὲ τοῦτο πρὸς γοῦν ἐμέ.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ Ὅμως οὐκ ἂν εἴποις, ὦ ἑταῖρε, καὶ πρὸς ἐμέ, ἀλλὰ περιόψει με παραπολόμενον ἐν τῷ πολλῷ συρφετῷ;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ Οὐδὲν γάρ σοι ἀρέσκει ὧν ἂν εἴπω.

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ Ἀλλὰ βούλομαι, ὦ Λυκῖνε. ἴσως γάρ τι γνώριμον ἐρεῖς.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ Σκόπει δὴ καὶ μὴ καταγελάσῃς, εἰ παντάπασιν ἰδιωτικῶς ἀναζητῶ αὐτό· ἀνάγκη γὰρ οὕτως, ἐπεὶ μὴ σὺ ἐθέλεις σαφέστερον εἰπεῖν εἰδὼς ἄμεινον.

I at any rate am satisfied.

LYCINUS But will you not tell me too, my friend? Or will you leave me rotting among the vulgar rabble?

HERMOTIMUS Nothing I say pleases you.

HERMOTIMUS I am willing, Lycinus. Perhaps you will say something important.

LYCINUS Then give me your attention and don’t mock me if my investigation is altogether that of a layman; it can’t be helped when you will not explain more precisely although you know better.

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Ἑρμότιμος

παίζεις, ὦ Λυκῖνε. ἐγὼ δὲ κατὰ θεὸν εἱλόμην, καὶ οὐ μεταμέλει μοι τῆς αἱρέσεως· ἱκανὸν δὲ τοῦτο πρὸς γοῦν ἐμέ.

Λυκῖνος

ὅμως οὐκ ἂν εἴποις, ὦ ἑταῖρε, καὶ πρὸς ἐμέ, 760 ἀλλὰ περιόψει με παραπολόμενον ἐν τῷ πολλῷ συρφετῷ;

Ἑρμότιμος

οὐδὲν γάρ σοι ἀρέσκει ὧν ἂν εἴπω.

Ἑρμότιμος

ἀλλὰ βούλομαι, ὦ Λυκῖνε· ἴσως γάρ τι γνώριμον ἐρεῖς.

Λυκῖνος

σκόπει δὴ καὶ μὴ καταγελάσῃς, εἰ παντάπασιν ἰδιωτικῶς ἀναζητῶ αὐτό· ἀνάγκη γὰρ οὕτως, ἐπεὶ μὴ σὺ ἐθέλεις σαφέστερον εἰπεῖν εἰδὼς ἄμεινον.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Ὅμως οὐκ ἂν εἴποις, ὦ ἑταῖρε, καὶ πρὸς ἐμέ, ἀλλὰ περιόψει με παραπολόμενον ἐν τῷ πολλῷ συρφετῷ;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Οὐδὲν γάρ σοι ἀρέσκει ὧν ἂν εἴπω.

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Ἀλλὰ βούλομαι, ὦ Λυκῖνε. ἴσως γάρ τι γνώριμον ἐρεῖς.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Σκόπει δὴ καὶ μὴ καταγελάσῃς, εἰ παντάπασιν ἰδιωτικῶς ἀναζητῶ αὐτό· ἀνάγκη γὰρ οὕτως, ἐπεὶ μὴ σὺ ἐθέλεις σαφέστερον εἰπεῖν εἰδὼς ἄμεινον.

LYCINUS

But will you not tell me too, my friend? Or will you leave me rotting among the vulgar rabble?

HERMOTIMUS

Nothing I say pleases you.

HERMOTIMUS

I am willing, Lycinus. Perhaps you will say something important.

LYCINUS

Then give me your attention and don’t mock me if my investigation is altogether that of a layman; it can’t be helped when you will not explain more precisely although you know better.