Plato Republic 10.603

Paul Shorey (Translator)

Republic. Plato. Paul Shorey (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1935-37.

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Republic (English) (Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 5-6. Shorey, Paul, translator. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1935-37 (printing).)

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Πολιτεία Perseus (Platonis Opera Tomus IV: Tetralogia VIII. Burnet, John, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.) — 10.603 focus

Notes on the current edition

Republic

1. Cf. 604 D, Phaedr. 253 D and E.
2. Cf. Lysias ix. 4
ἐπὶ μηδενὶ ὑγιεῖ
and for the idiom οὐδὲν ὑγιές on 523 B, p. 153, note f.
3. Cf. 496 A, and on 489 D, p. 26, note b.
4. Cf. Phaedo 92 D
διὰ τῶν εἰκότων
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5. Cf. 399 A-B, Laws 655 D, 814 E ff., Aristot. Poet. 1448 A 1-2
ἐπεὶ δὲ μιμοῦνται οἱ μιμούμενοι πράττοντας ἀνάγκη δὲ τούτους ἢ σπουδαίους ἢ φαύλους εἶναι
, ibid. 1449 b 36-37 f.
6. See What Plato Said, p. 505, on Gorg. 482 A-B.
7. Cf. 554 D, and p. 394, note e, on 586 E.
8. 439 B ff.
9. Plato sometimes pretends to remedy an omission or to correct himself by an afterthought. So in Book V. 449 B-C ff., and Tim. 65 C.
10. 387 D-E.
11. This suggests the doctrine of μετριοπάθεια as opposed to the Stoic ἀπάθεια. Joel ii. 161 thinks the passage a polemic against Antisthenes. Seneca, Epist. xcix. 15 seems to agree with Plato rather than with the Stoics:
inhumanitas est ista non virtus.
So Plutarch, Cons. ad Apol. 3 (102 cf.). See also ibid. 22 (112 E-F). Cf. Horace, Odes ii. 3. 1
aequam memento rebus in arduis servare mentem,
and also Laws 732 C, 960 A.

Commentary

Commentary on Plato, Republic (Plato. The Republic, Vol 1-2. Adam, James, editor. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1902-1903.) focus

τῷ ἐν ἡμῖν κτλ. See on 602 C.

φαύλη ‐‐ μιμητική . Cf. VI 496 A.

ἢ καὶ ἡ . See cr. n. “Inter ἤ et κα facile καὶ ἡ excidere potuit” (Schneider).

μὴ τοίνυν κτλ. In 605 A Plato seems to think that his procedure in arguing from Painting to Poetry (597 E note) needs a word of explanation and defence. The following argument incidentally furnishes such a defence by deducing from an independent treatment of Poetry the conclusions to which we have already been led by τὸ εἰκὸς ἐκ τῆς γραφικῆς.