Πρωταγόρας ἢ σοφισταί· ἐνδεικτικός
. This is how the title appears in B, except that
ἐνδεικτικός (which is absent in T) is apparently from a later hand.
1
Plato probably called the dialogue
Πρωταγόρας (compare the titles
Crito ,
Euthyphro, etc.— the majority of the dialogues are named after an interlocutor): the words
ἢ σοφισταί and
ἐνδεικτικός were added by Thrasylus, whose date is about the Christian era. The
Protagoras is the sole example of an ‘endeictic’ dialogue: it is so called because it was thought to be an arraignment (
ἔνδειξις ) of the Sophists. That this is the meaning of
ἐνδεικτικός , and not ‘probative’, can be inferred from the fact that Albinus used
ἐλεγκτικός in its place (
εἰσαγωγὴ εἰς τοὺς Πλάτωνος διαλόγους , ch. v. Cobet takes the right view: see his edition of Diog. Laert. III. 51). The arrangement of the Platonic dialogues into tetralogies is also probably due to Thrasylus. The
Protagoras is the second dialogue of the sixth tetralogy, the others being (1)
Euthydemus, (3)
Gorgias, (4)
Meno. See Grote's
Plato, 1, 158 ff.
πόθεν—ὥραν
. The opening words of Cicero's translation of the
Protagoras are preserved by Priscian (VI. 63):
quid tu? unde tandem appares, o Socrate? an id quidem dubium non est, quin ab Alcibiade?
ἢ = Latin
an? introduces a second question intended to forestall Socrates' answer to the first: cf.
Apol. 26B
πῶς με φὴ|ς διαφθείρειν, ὦ Μέλητε, τοὺς νεωτέρους; ἢ δῆλον δὴ ὅτι κτλ.;
κυνηγεσίου—ὥραν
. For the metaphor in
κυνηγεσίου Sauppe quotes
Soph. 222D
τῇ τῶν ἐρώντων θήρᾳ τὸν νοῦν, ὡς ἔοικας, οὔπω προσέσχεςand
Xen.
Mem. 1. 2. 24
Ἀλκιβιάδης—διὰ μὲν κάλλος—θηρώμενος κτλ. τοῦ περὶ τὴν Ἀλκιβιάδου ὥραν(=
τὸν ὡραῖον Ἀλκιβιάδην , cf.
βίη Ἡρακλείη for
βίαιος Ἡρακλῆς ) is a slight
παρὰ προσδοκίαν as in the English: ‘From hunting, no doubt—after the young and blooming Alcibiades.’ It was part of Socrates' habitual irony to pretend to be in love with young men of ability (cf. the words of Alcibiades in
Symp. 216D
Σωκράτης ἐρωτικῶς διάκειται τῶν καλῶν καὶ ἀεὶ περὶ τούτους ἐστὶ καὶ ἐκπέπληκταιand 216E: see also below, note on
310A
l. 36).
καὶ μήν μοι καί.
καὶ μήνis merely ‘well’ as in
Phaedo, 84D
καὶ μὴν—τἀληθῆ σοι ἐρῶ. The second
καί goes with
πρῴην : ‘well, it was only the other day that I saw him, etc.’ In the next line
καλὸς ἀνήρ is in the predicate: the readings of Bekker (
ἁνήρ ) and Athenaeus (
ὁ ἀνήρ ) are less good.
ἀνὴρ μέντοι is ‘but yet a man’)(
παῖς . At the age of 18 an Athenian
εἰς ἄνδρας ἐνεγράφετο .
ὥς γ’ ἐν αὐτοῖς ἡμῖν—ὑποπιμπλάμενος.
αὐτοῖς=
μόνοις is emphatic as in the usual
αὐτοὶ γάρ ἐσμεν and therefore precedes
ἡμῖν. ὥς γ’ ἐν αὐτοῖς ἡμῖν εἰρῆσθαι apologises for
ἀνὴρ μέντοι : for this use of
ὥς γε cf.
Euthyd. 307A
ὥς γε πρὸς σὲ τἀληθῆ εἰρῆσθαιand below
339E
καὶ in
καὶ πώγωνος is ‘and’ not ‘even’.
ὑπο‐ in
ὑποπιμπλάμενος is diminutive, like
sub- in Latin. So in
312A
ἤδη γὰρ ὑπέφαινέν τι ἡμέρας .
οὐ σὺ μέντοι
. ‘In interrogationibus haec particula’ (
μέντοι ) ‘ita cum
οὐ negatione coniungitur, ut gravissima sententiae vox intercedat, quo modo aliquis eis quae ex altero quaerit summam veritatis ingerit speciem’ (Hoefer,
de particulis Platonicis, p. 34). The idiom is very frequent in Plato, e.g.
Rep. I. 339B
,
Crat. 439A
,
Theaet. 163E
. Translate ‘You don't mean to say that
you disapprove of Homer’.
ὃς ἔφη χαριεστάτην ἥβην κτλ.
Homer,
Il. XXIV. 348
and
Od. X. 279
πρῶτον ὑπηνήτῃ τοῦπερ χαριεστάτη ἥβη. To insert
τήν (with Hirschig) before
ἥβην would make the reference to Homer less precise. The line in Homer refers to Hermes, and Sauppe quotes Clement to show that sculptors modelled their busts of Hermes after Alcibiades.
εὖ ἔμοιγε ἔδοξεν
, sc.
διακεῖσθαι . Socrates replies to his friend's second question (
καὶ πῶς πρὸς σὲ ὁ νεανίας διάκειται ;) first, and to his first question (
ἦ παρ’ ἐκείνου φαίνει
; ) second, in the words
καὶ οὖν καὶ ἄρτι ἀπ’ ἐκείνου ἔρχομαι , where
οὖν marks the regression to the earlier inquiry. Both B and T read
ἄρχομαι by mistake for
ἔρχομαι :
ἔρχομαι is found in a Vienna codex (suppl. phil. gr. 7) which Kral and Wohlrab place along with B in the first class of MSS.
οὔτε προσεῖχον—ἐπελανθανόμηντε.
τεfollowing
οὔτε throws emphasis on the second clause: e.g.
Apol. 26C
παντάπασί με φὴ|ς οὔτε αὐτὸν νομίζειν θεοὺς τούς τε ἄλλους ταῦτα διδάσκειν. The idiom is very common in Plato (e.g. below
347E
360D
361E
and corresponds to
neque—que or (more frequently)
neque—et in Latin. For the interchange of pronouns
ἐκείνου— αὐτοῦ see on
310D
καὶ πολύ γε
, i.e.
καλλίονι ἐνέτυχον .
Ἀβδηρίτῃ
. Abdera, on the coast of Thrace, was the birthplace of Democritus and of Protagoras. The reputation of the city for heaviness and stupidity seems not to be earlier than the age of Demosthenes: see pseudo-Dem.
περὶ τῶν πρὸς Ἀλέξανδρον , 23
ὥσπερ ἐν Ἀβδηρίταις ἢ Μαρωνείταις ἀλλ’ οὐκ ἐν Ἀθηναίοις πολιτευόμενοι and Cic.
ad Atticum, VII. 7. 4.
υἱέος
. Schanz writes
ὑέος in conformity with the general usage of inscriptions about Plato's time, but MSS. upon the whole favour
υἱέος : see the Editor's note on
Crito, 45C
.
τὸ σοφώτατον
. So the MSS.: Schanz and others read
σοφώτερον , apparently the reading of Ficinus, who translates the word by
sapientius. Socrates, however, is thinking of Protagoras, who is not
σοφός , but
σοφώτατος (l. 31): the effect of the neuter
τὸ σοφώτατον is to generalise the statement into a kind of adage.
σοφώτερον would introduce a somewhat frigid comparison between Alcibiades and Protagoras in respect of wisdom; and it should also be noted that the MSS. reading
σοφώτατον was more likely to be changed to
σοφώτερον by mistake than vice versa. There may be an allusion to some proverbial form of speech resembling that in Theognis, 255
κάλλιστον τὸ δικαιότατον· λῷστον δ’ ὑγιαίνειν κτλ. : cf. also the
scolion referred to in
Gorg. 451E
. The sentiment is an interesting anticipation of the Stoic paradoxes as to the beauty of the wise man.
ἀλλ’ ἦ
expresses surprise and interest: ‘What! have you just left etc.’ So in
Gorg. 447A
ἀλλ’ ἦ τὸ λεγόμενον κατόπιν
ἑορτῆς ἥκομεν
;Presently
μὲν οὖν is as usual corrective: see on
Apol. 26B
.
σοφώτατος εἶναι Πρωταγόρας
. The interest is sustained by reserving the name of Protagoras to the end.
πάνυ γε πολλὰ καὶ εἰπὼν κτλ.
Sauppe places a comma after
πάνυ γε , but it suits the rapid movement of the dialogue better to take
πάνυ with
πολλά .
τί οὖν οὐ διηγήσω
. Literally ‘why didn't you relate’, i.e. ‘tell us at once’. So in
317D
τί οὖν—οὐ καὶ Πρόδικον καὶ Ἱππίαν ἐκαλέσαμεν
; This construction of
τί οὐ and
τί οὖν οὐ is common in animated conversational style, especially with the second person: e.g.
Gorg. 503B
τί οὐχὶ καὶ ἐμοὶ αὐτὸν ἔφρασας τίς ἐστιν
;=
φράσον ὅτι τάχιστα—οὐκ ἂν φθάνοις φράζων as Thompson remarks.
τὴν ξυνουσίαν
recalls
συγγεγονώς in l. 34. The continual use of the words
συνεῖναι, συγγίγνεσθαι, πλησιάζειν, ἰέναι ἐπί, ἐρᾶν and the like to denote the relation between learner and teacher in Plato's dialogues depends upon the conception of the philosophical impulse as
ἔρως : see
Symp. 210
.
ἐξαναστήσας τὸν παῖδα τουτονί
. The slave was doubtless in attendance on the Friend.
ἀκούητε
. From this, as well as from
ἡμεῖς and
ἀκούετε , it appears that the Friend was not the only listener.
διπλῆ ἂν εἴη ἡ χάρις
. The expression is almost proverbial: cf. (with Schneidewin on
Soph.
Phil. 1370
)
Eur.
Rhesus, 162-3
παντὶ γὰρ προσκείμενον κέρδος πρὸς ἔργω? τὴν χάριν τίκτει διπλῆν, and
Eur.
Suppl. 333-4
τῷδέ τ’ εἴρηκας καλῶς κἀμοί· διπλοῦν δὲ χάρμα γίγνεται τόδε.
ᾔει ἐπειγόμενος
. So BT: neither in the 3rd singular of such forms nor elsewhere do Plato's MSS. always avoid hiatus. Schanz (vol. XII, p. XV) would insert the
ν ἐφελκυστικόν in such forms before a vowel, unless a pause follows.
Ἱπποκράτης, ἔφην, οὗτος
. We have followed Heindorf in printing a full stop after
οὗτος . Heindorf (following Ficinus) correctly takes the words as an aside; Socrates recognises Hippocrates by his voice. The neuter comparative of
νέος regularly implies that the new is worse than the old: see on
Euthyphr. 2A
.
εἰ μὴ ἀγαθά γε
. Compare
Ar.
Knights, 186
μῶν ἐκ καλῶν εἶ κἀγαθῶν; μὰ τοὺς θεούς, εἰ μὴ ’κ πονηρῶν γεand Blaydes
in loc. The idiom originally meant ‘unless by
νεώτερα you mean
ἀγαθά ’, which would be a contradiction in terms, since
νεώτερον is
κακόν . Preceded by
οὐδέν it has come to mean little more than ‘except good’.
πρῴην
: see
309D
τρίτην γε ἤδη ἡμέραν .
ἑσπέρας γε
:
χθές is unnecessary, as the Athenians counted the interval between two sunsets as one day (Kroschel, referring to Varro,
ap. Gell.
Noct. Att. III. 2. 4).
ἐπιψηλαφήσας τοῦ σκίμποδος
. The
σκίμπους was a low stool or bed. According to a scholiast on
Ar.
Clouds, 254
, the word means properly a ‘lame stool’ (
χωλὸν κραββάτιον ) and is connected with
σκιμπάζειν =
χωλαίνειν. ἐπιψηλαφῶ is followed by the accusative where it does not (as here) contain the idea of search for, e.g. in
Rep. II. 360A
(
ἐπιψηλαφῶντα τὸν δακτύλιον ).
Οἰνόης
. Oenoe (probably = the Wine-country) was a
δῆμος in the
φυλὴ Ἱπποθοωντίς , near Eleutherae, on the road to Thebes. The slave had endeavoured to escape across the frontier into Boeotia. There was another
δῆμος of the same name near Marathon, belonging to the
φυλὴ Αἰαντίς .
ἐπειδὴ δὲ ἦλθον
. For this sense of
ἔρχομαι (‘come back’) Heindorf quotes Lysias
ὑπὲρ Μαντιθέου § 4
ἀλλ’ ἤλθομεν πρὶν τοὺς ἀπὸ Φυλῆς εἰς τὸν Πειραιᾶ κατελθεῖν πρότερον πένθ’ ἡμέραις .
ἀδελφός
. So (not
ἁδελφός ) the MSS. The article is not rarely omitted with names denoting relation, as we usually omit it with ‘father’ and ‘mother’. See Kühner's
Griechische Grammatik, 11, 522. The force of
ἔτι is ‘late though it was’.
δέ is commonly omitted after
ἔπειτα and
εἶτα : so below,
350D
πρῶτον μὲν γάρ—ἔπειτα ;
Symp. 211A
πρῶτον μὲν ἀεὶ ὄν—ἔπειτα οὐ τῇ μὲν καλόν, τῇ δ’ αἰσχρόν.
πόρρω τῶν νυκτῶν
. The plural is idiomatic: cf.
Symp. 217D
διελεγόμην ἀεὶ πόρρω τῶν νυκτῶν ;
Ar.
Clouds, 2
ὦ Ζεῦ βασιλεῦ τὸ χρῆμα τῶν νυκτῶν ὅσον. So
μέσαι νύκτες for ‘midnight’.
In quibus loquendi formulis remarks Heindorf ‘
νύκτες horas nocturnas denotant’.
ὁ ὕπνος ἀνῆκεν
is modelled on Homer (e.g.
Il. II. 71
ἐμὲ δὲ γλυκὺς ὕπνος ἀνῆκεν), but Plato gives a different turn to
ἀνῆκεν by adding
ἐκ τοῦ κόπου , where
ἐκ is ‘from’, not ‘after’ (as Stallbaum thinks). Note presently that
οὕτω to introduce the apodosis after participles is especially common in Plato: cf. below,
314C
326D
ἀνδρείαν.
ἀνδρεῖοςoccurs in much the same sense in
Meno, 81D
οὐδὲν κωλύει—τἄλλα πάντα αὐτὸν ἀνευρεῖν, ἐάν τις ἀνδρεῖος ᾗ καὶ μὴ ἀποκάμνῃ ζητῶν. σοίis emphatic and should therefore be accented, like
σέ in l. 28.
ἀδικεῖ.
ἀδικεῖνis often used of a past injury because the injury is regarded as continuing till atonement is made: see on
Crito, 50C
.
ἂν αὐτῷ διδῷς ἀργύριον καὶ πείθῃς ἐκεῖνον
. For the variation of pronouns cf.
Euthyphr. 14D
ἀλλά μοι λέξον τίς αὕτη ἡ ὑρηπεσία ἐστί τοῖς θεοῖς; αἰτεῖν τε φὴ|ς αὐτοὺς καὶ διδόναι ἐκείνοις; above,
309B
and below,
318C
The change is most frequent where the second pronoun is different in case from the first: cf. Classen on Thuc. I. 132. 5. Cobet ejects the words
καὶ πείθῃς ἐκεῖνον , but they are supported by the parallel expression of
311D
ἂν μὲν ἐξικνῆται τὰ ἡμέτερα χρήματα καὶ τούτοις πείθωμεν αὐτόν .
ὦ Ζεῦ καὶ θεοί
: i.e.
καὶ οἱ ἄλλοι θεοί . The exclamation is common: see Blaydes on
Ar.
Plutus, I
.
ἐν τούτῳ εἴη
. Cf.
354E
and
356D
εἰ οὖν ἐν τούτῳ ἡμῖν ἦν τὸ εὖ πράττειν .
οὔτε τῶν φίλων
. The English idiom would lead us to expect
οὔτε τῶν τῶν φίλων : but in Greek the double article is avoided by substituting ‘my friends’ for ‘my friends' property’. Analogous is the usage known as
comparatio compendiaria, e.g.
κόμαι Χαρίτεσσιν ὁμοῖαι (
Il. XVII. 51
), where ‘the Graces’ is put for ‘the Graces' hair’.
ἀλλ’ αὐτὰ ταῦτα
. See on
Apol. 23B
.
ταῦτα =
διὰ ταῦτα is frequent in Plato and Aristophanes.
ὅτε τὸ πρότερον ἐπεδήμησεν
. Probably about 445 B.C., if the date of action of the dialogue is 433-432. (See Introduction p. xxxiii.) Protagoras went to Thurii in 443 B.C., being charged by Pericles to draw up a code of laws for the new colony.
Καλλίᾳ τῷ Ἱππονίκου
. Callias, son of Hipponicus, belonged to one of the richest families in Athens (below,
337D
αὐτῆς τῆς πόλεως—τὸν μέγιστον καὶ ὀλβιώτατον οἶκον τόνδε ). His devotion to the ‘Sophists’ in general is remarked upon in
Apol. 20A
ἀνδρὶ ὃς τετέλεκε χρήματα σοφισταῖς πλείω ἢ ξύμπαντες οἱ ἄλλοι, Καλλίᾳ τῷ Ἱππονίκου(cf.
Crat. 391B
): but he seems to have been particularly attached to the doctrines of Protagoras: see
Theaet. 164E
οὐ γὰρ ἐγώ, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἀλλὰ μᾶλλον Καλλίας ὁ Ἱππονίκου τῶν ἐκείνου(i.e.
Πρωταγόρου λόγων )
ἐπίτροπος . One of his two sons (
Apol. 20A
), Protarchus, appears as an interlocutor in the
Philebus. In 393-392 Callias was associated with Iphicrates in the command of the Athenian forces at Corinth, and as late as 371 we find him acting as ambassador to Sparta (Xen.
Hell. VI. 4). It appears that he spent all his money and died in actual want (Athenaeus, XII. 52).
μήπω, ὠγαθέ
. The MSS. have
μήπω ἀγαθέ : probably the archetype had
μήπωγαθέ , by a natural mistake. Cobet rejects
ἐκεῖσε ἴωμεν , reading
μήπω γε , on the ground that with
μήπω γε the Greek idiom does not repeat the verb: but there is no proof that the verb could not be expressed with
μήπω (without
γε ).
δεῦρο ἐξαναστῶμεν εἰς τὴν αὐλήν
. Herwerden needlessly suggests that
ἐξαναστάντες should be read, or
εἰς τὴν
αὐλήν rejected:
εἰς τὴν αὐλήν goes with
ἐξαναστῶμεν : cf.
ἐμὲ δὲ δεῖ ποι ἐξαναστῆναι in
Theages, 129B.
δεῦρο we should translate by ‘here’: ‘let us rise and go out into the court here’. Classic Greek does not admit of
τῇδε in such a case: see Cobet's
Novae Lectiones, p. 91.
ἀποπειρώμενος—διεσκόπουν.
ῥώμηof strength of will and resolution (cf.
ἀνδρεία above
310D
as in
Polit. 259C
πρὸς τὴν τῆς ψυχῆς σύνεσιν καὶ ῥώμην. γνώμης , the suggestion of Hoenebeek, would be much less forcible and exact.
ὥσπερ ἂν εἰ κτλ.
ἄνgoes with
ἀπεκρίνω in l. II. The application of the similes follows in D, and each illustration contains two subordinate protases, viz. (in B) (1)
εἰ ἐπενόεις— ἐκείνῳ , (2)
εἴ τίς σε ἤρετο , and (in C) (1)
εἰ δὲ—ἐκείνοις , (2)
εἴ τίς σε ἤρετο . With this multiplication of protases Heindorf compares
Meno, 74B
μανθάνεις γάρ που ὅτι οὑτωσὶ ἔχει περὶ παντός· εἴ τίς σε ἀνέποιτο τοῦτο ὃ νῦν δὴ ἐγὼ ἔλεγον, τί ἐστι σχῆμα, ὦ Μένων; εἰ αὐτῷ εἶρες ὅτι στπογγυλότης, εἴ σοι εἶρεν ἅρεπ ἐγώ, ρότεπον σχῆμα ἡ στπογγυλότης ἐστὶν ἢ σχῆμά τι; εἶρες δή ρου ἂν ὅτι σχῆμά τι. The reasoning from analogy is quite in Socrates' style: see for example
Gorg. 448B
ff.
‘Ιπποκράτη—τὸν τῶν’ Ασκληπιαδῶν
. It is unnecessary (with Naber) to bracket
Ἱπποκράτη . Hippocrates, the founder of medical science, born about 460 B.C. in Cos, was at the height of his renown about the year 400. He is referred to also in
Phaedrus, 270C (
εἰ μὲν οὖν Ἱπποκράτει γε τῷ τῶν Ἀσκληπιαδῶν δεῖ τι πείθεσθαι ) as holding the view that the human body could not be Compare
Ar.
Peace, 383
εἰπέ μοι τί πάσχετ’ ὦνδρες; Pl.
Euthyd. 283B
εἰπέ μοι, ἔφη, ὦ Σώκρατές τε καὶ ὑμεῖς οἱ ἄλλοι . The exhortation or command is in general primarily addressed to one man: contrast, however, below,
330B
and
Lach. 186E
σὺ δ’, ὦ Λάχης καὶ Νικία, εἴπετον ἡμῖν ἑκάτερος.
ἄλλο γε
, i.e. other than the name ‘Protagoras’. It is more in accordance with Plato's usage to make the first question end with the first
ἀκούομεν , and regard the
ὥσπερ clause as introducing the second question
τί τοιοῦτον περὶ Πρωταγόρου ἀκούομεν
; This second question is rejected by Cobet as spurious, but the punctuation which we have adopted seems to remove the difficulty. The
ὥσπερ clause defines in advance the meaning of
τοιοῦτον : for this and for the asyndeton compare
Sophist. 258B-C
πότερον οὖν—δεῖ θαρροῦντα ἤδη λέγειν ὅτι τὸ μὴ ὂν βεβαίως ἐστὶ τὴν αὑτοῦ φύσιν ἔχον; ὥσρεπ τὸ μέγα ἦν μέγα καὶ τὸ καλὸν ἦν καλὸν καὶ τὸ μὴ μέγα μὴ μέγα καὶ τὸ μὴ καλὸν μὴ καλόν, οὕτω δὲ καὶ τὸ μὴ ὂν κατὰ ταὐτὸν ἦν τε καὶ ἔστι μὴ ὄν, ἐνάπιθμον τῶν πολλῶν ὄντων εἶδος ἕν
; Crat.
394A
B;
Theaet. 172D
with Heindorf's note. See also
330A
ὥσπερ τὰ τοῦ προσώπου , where the same punctuation should be adopted. In l. 31 the MSS. read
ἠκούομεν by mistake for
ἀκούομεν .
σοφιστήν—εἶναι
. On
σοφιστής see below, note on
312C
γε implies that Protagoras
may be a sophist only in name.
εἶναι is frequently used with verbs of naming: cf.
Lach. 192A
ὃ ἐν πᾶσιν ὀνομάζεις ταχυτῆτα εἶναι. Cobet's suggestion to read
εἶεν, ἔφην, ὡς for
εἶναι, ἔφη. ὡς is ingenious but needless.
αὐτὸς δὲ δὴ—παρὰ τὸν Πρωταγόραν
, sc.
τί ἂν ἀποκρίναιο
;
ὑπέφαινέν τι ἡμέρας.
ὑποφαίνει ἡμέραis used, as Heindorf says,
de die illucescente. Here
τι ἡμέρας = ‘something of day’, ‘some daylight’.
εἰ μέν τι—ἔοικεν
. Heindorf remarks that Stephanus' conjecture
τοῦτο ἔοικεν is needless, the vague indefinite subject being frequently omitted. Cf.
Crat. 387D
εἴπερ τι τοῖς ἔμπροσθεν μέλλει ὁμολογούμενον εἶναι;
Phaedo, 99E
ἴσως μὲν οὖν ὧ? εἰκάζω τρόπον τινὰ οὐκ ἔοικεν.
εἰς τοὑς Ἕλληνας σαυτόν.
εἰς τοὺς Ἕλληναςgoes with
παρέχων : cf.
Symp. 179B
ἱκανὴν μαρτυρίαν παρέχεται—εἰς τοὺς Ἕλληνας. Young men of fashion were fond of looking to Greek, as opposed to Athenian, public opinion. The MSS. have
αὑτόν , but the use of the third personal reflexive pronoun for the first and second in the singular number does not seem to be certain in Plato; and it is simplest to suppose that
ς fell out after
Ἕλληνας : Schanz, VII, xii.
ἀλλ’ ἄρα—μὴ οὐ τοιαύτην.
οὐgoes closely with
τοιαύτην , and
μή is virtually ‘perhaps’ (originally ‘lest’ as in
ὅρα μή
Theaet. 145B
): ‘but perhaps after all (
ἄρα ) this is not the kind of learning which etc.’ Cf.
Euthyd. 290E
ἀλλ’ ἄρα—μὴ ὁ Κτήσιππος ἦν ὁ ταῦτ’ εἰπώνand
Apol. 25A
ἀλλ’ ἄρα—μὴ οἱ ἐν τῇ ἐκκλησία?, οἱ ἐκκλησιασταί, διαφθείρουσι τοὺς νεωτέρους ;
Meno, 89C
μὴ τοῦτο οὐ καλῶς ὡμολογήσαμεν . In all of these passages it is better to take
μή in this way than as equivalent to Latin
num. From this use of
μή grew up the use of
μήποτε = ‘perhaps’, frequent in Aristotle and later, e.g.
Eth. Nic. X. 2. 1173
a . 22
μή ποτ’ οὐ λέγουσιν το αἴτιον .
οἵαπερ ἡ παρἀ
is the reading of T: B has
οἵα περὶ . The
γραμματισταί of Athens were schoolmasters, who besides teaching reading and writing (cf. below,
326D
translated (
ἑρμηνεύειν ) Homer and interpreted his
γλῶτται . They were distinct from the
γραμματικοί or
κριτικοί who pursued more scientific literary and grammatical studies. The
κιθαριστής and
γραμματιστής between them taught
μουσική , and the
παιδοτρίβης γυμναστική ; and
μουσική and
γυμναστική were the two parts of
παιδεία or liberal education:
Rep. II. 376E
.
ἐπὶ τέχνῃ—ἀλλ’ ἐπὶ παιδείᾳ
: cf.
315A
ἐπὶ τέχνῃ μανθάνει, ὡς σοφιστὴς ἐσόμενος . The distinction between professional and liberal (
ὡς τὸν ἰδιώτην καὶ τὸν ἐλεύθερον πρέπει ) education is frequently emphasised by Plato (see especially
Laws, I. 643D
): his word for the latter is always
παιδεία , cf.
Gorg. 485A
,
Rep. VI. 492C
. The ‘arts’ are throughout the
Republic looked on as
βάναυσοι , and unfit for men whose souls are free.
παρασχεῖν θεραπεῦσαι ἀνδρἱ σοφιστῇ
. The word
παρέχω is often used of putting oneself in the hands of a doctor: cf.
Gorg. 456B
φάρμακον πιεῖν ἢ τεμεῖν ἢ καῦσαι παρασχεῖν τῶ? ἰατρῷ. ἀνήρis regularly used (mostly in a complimentary sense, real or feigned) with words which denote one's profession, standing or the like, e.g.
ἀνὴρ μάντις, ἀνὴρ νομεύς, ἄνδρες δικασταί ; cf.
Euthyphr. 15D
. For
παρασχεῖν Cobet reads
παρέχειν , but if MSS. can be trusted, Plato used the aorist infinitive with
μέλλω tolerably often: see Schanz, Preface to
Symposium, p. vii.
οὔτ’ εἰ ἀγαθῷ οὔτ’ εἰ κακῷ πράγματι
. So in
Gorgias 520B
οὐκ ἐγχωρεῖν μέμφεσθαι τούτῳ τῷ πράγματι (their pupils)
ὃ αὐτοὶ παιδεύουσιν . Here Socrates uses the most general form of expression because
ex hypothesi nothing is yet known as to the sophist: cf. below,
330C
ἡ δικαιοσύνη πρᾶγμά τί ἐστιν ἢ οὐδὲν πρᾶγμα
; Cases like
Crito, 53D
οὐκ οἴει ἄσχημον ἂν φανεῖσθαι τὸ τοῦ Σωκράτους πρᾶγμα
;are somewhat different and contain a slight admixture of contempt: see the Editor's note
in loc.
οἶμαί γ’ εἰδέναι
. Hippocrates
οἴεται εἰδέναι μὴ εἰδώς : he is thus, according to Socrates, in the worst of all states: cf.
Apol. ch. VI ff. Socrates now proceeds to convict him of ignorance.
ὥσπερ τοὔνομα λέγει—τῶν σοφῶν ἐπιστήμονα
. Hippocrates derives
σοφιστής from
σοφός and (
ἐπ )
ίστ (
αμαι ) ‘quasi sit
ὁ τῶν σοφῶν ἴστης ’ (Heindorf, comparing the derivation of
Ἥφαιστος in
Crat. 407C
from
Φάεος ἵστωρ ). The correct derivation is perhaps given by Suidas s.v.:
σοφιστὴς καὶ ὁ διδάσκαλος ὡς σοφίζων (cf.
σωφρονίζω =make
σώφρων ), but
‐ίζω is very elastic in meaning, and
σοφίζω may very well mean ‘play the
σοφός ’.
τῶν τί σοφῶν.
τῶν πρὸς τί σοφῶνwould be more precise, but the accusative of reference is preferred for brevity. For the construction Kroschel compares
Theages, 125C
τῶν τί σοφῶν συνουσίᾳ φὴ|ς σοφοὺς εἶναι τοὺς τυράννους , where, however,
σοφῶν is masculine. The neuter of
σοφός is not here used ironically as in
Theaet. 157C
παρατίθημι ἑκάστων τῶν σοφῶν ἀπογεύσασθαι.
ὁ δὲ σοφιστὴς τῶν τί σοφῶν ἐστιν
. Heusde suggested
ἐπιστήμων after
ἐστιν , but the sense can be supplied out of the
‐ιστής of
σοφιστής , according to the derivation of the word just given: the full sense is as it were
ὁ δὲ σοφιστὴς τῶν τί σοφῶν ἐστιν (
σοφ )
ιστής .
τί ἂν ἀποκρινοίμεθα αὐτῷ
. There is no need to change the verb to
ἀποκριναίμεθα , as was done by Bekker to suit
ἔροιτο : cf. below,
354A
εἰ ἐροίμεθα—φαῖεν ἄν and
Phaedr. 259A
εἰ οὖν ἴδοιεν—δικαίως ἂν καταγελῷεν.
ποίας ἐργασίας ἐπιστάτης
. These words are not of course part of the imaginary questioner's interrogation, but are spoken by Socrates to help out Hippocrates' answer. Socrates suggests that Hippocrates should say that the sophist is
ἐπιστάτης of some sort of
ἐργασία , but in order that the answer should come from Hippocrates himself, he substitutes for the desired answer: ‘(The sophist is)
ἐπιστάτης —of what kind of
ἐργασία ?’ Hippocrates then replies by explaining the
ἐργασία , viz.
τὸ ποιῆσαι δεινὸν λέγειν . The full grammatical construction would be
ποίας ἐργασίας ἐπιστάτης (
ὅτι ἐστὶν ἀποκριναίμεθα ἂν αὐτῷ )
; If we take this view, it is not necessary to insert
ἐστίν after
ἐπιστάτης (with Hirschig).
τί ἂν εἴποιμεν—ὦ Σώκρατες
; Hippocrates is on the verge of
ἀπορία , and merely throws out his suggestion
ἐπιστάτην τοῦ ποιῆσαι δεινὸν λέγειν for what it is worth. The words
ἐπιστάτην τοῦ ποιῆσαι δεινὸν λέγειν are strictly speaking a reply to the question of Socrates
ποίας ἐργασίας ἐπιστάτης ; for
τοῦ ποιῆσαι δεινὸν λέγειν answers
ποίας ἐργασίας , and but for the intervening clause (
τί ἂν εἴποιμεν αὐτὸν εἶναι
; ) the word
ἐπιστάτην would have been in the nominative.
ὥσπερ ὁ κιθαριστὴς κτλ.
Cf.
Gorg. 449E
and 451A ff., where much the same reasoning is employed to discover
τί ἐστι τοῦτο τῶν ὄντων, περὶ οὗ οὗτοι οἱ λόγοι εἰσίν, οἷς ἡ ῥητορικὴ χρῆται (
Gorg. 451D
). Rhetoric and Sophistic were regarded by Plato as sisters: cf.
Gorg. 464B
ff. The clause
ὥσπερ ὁ κιθαριστὴς κτλ. is logically the protasis to
εἶεν· ὁ δὲ δὴ σοφιστὴς κτλ. : see on
311E
above.
εἶεν· ὁ δὲ δὴ σοφιστής
. For
εἶεν and
δὲ δή see on
311C
above.
δῆλον ὅτι περὶ οὗπερ καὶ ἐπίστασθαι
. Stahl's emendation (
ἐπίστασθαι for
ἐπίσταται ), which had occurred to us independently, seems to be certain. Most editions read
ἢ δῆλον ὅτι περὶ οὗπερ καὶ ἐπίσταται
; inserting
ἤ before
δῆλον (with Heindorf) and giving the words to Socrates, but it is surely more natural to regard them as giving Hippocrates' reply to Socrates' question, in which case
δῆλον ὅτι is right. The MS. reading
ἐπίσταται gives a
non sequitur ; for the harpist makes one
δεινὸς λέγειν περὶ οὖπερ καὶ ἐπιστήμονα i.e.
περὶ οὖπερ καὶ ἐπίστασθαι , not
περὶ οὗπερ καὶ ἐπιστήμων‐ἐστὶν i.q.
ἐπίσταται . The next sentence
τί δή ἐστι τοῦτο, περὶ οὗ αὐτός τε ἐπιστήμων ἐστὶν ὁ σοφιστὴς καὶ τὸν μαθητὴν ποιεῖ (sc.
ἐπίστασθαι ); in no way invalidates the reading
ἐπίστασθαι : it is everywhere
assumed in the Platonic writings that he who makes others know has knowledge himself: see for example
Alcib. I, 111B
οὐκ οἶσθ’ ὅτι χρὴ τοὺς μέλλοντας διδάσκειν ὁτιοῦν αὐτοὺς πρῶτον εἰδέναι; ἢ οὔ; πῶς γὰρ οὔ
; and
ibid. 113C, 118C.
οὐκέτι
. See below on
οὐκέτι in
321D
ἢ εἰ μὲν τὸ σῶμα κτλ.
For
ἤ cf.
Crito, 50E
ἢ πρὸς μὲν ἄπα σοι τὸν ρατέπα—ρπὸς δὲ τὴν ρατπίδα ἄπα καὶ τοὺς νόμους ἔσται σοι; and for the general form of the sentence
Apol. 28E
εἰ ὅτε μέν—τότε μέν—τοῦ δὲ θεοῦ τάττοντος—ἐνταῦθα δέ,
Meno, 94C
-D,
Gorg. 512A
: see the Editor's note on
Apol. loc. cit.
πολλὰ ἂν περιεσκέψω
: but
ἔδει in l. 3 and
παρεκάλεις in 6. The effect is to represent the process of reflection by oneself as prior to consultation with friends. Heindorf on
Gorg. 514D
quotes a parallel from the
Theaetetus (144E):
ἀτὰρ εἰ, νῷν ἐχόντοιν ἑκατέπου λύπαν, ἔφη αὐτὰς ἡπμόσθαι ὁμοίως, ρότεπον εὐθὺς ἂν ἐπιστεύομεν ἢ ἐπεσκεψάμεθα ἂν (i.e. should have inquired
first )
εἰ μουσικὸς ὢν λέγοι
;
τὴν ψυχήν
. Cf. (with Heindorf)
Rep. IX. 583E
ὃ μεταξὺ ἄπα νῦν δὴ ἀμφοτέπων ἔφαμεν εἶναι, τὴν ἡσυχίαν, τοῦτό ροτε ἀμφότερα ἔσται. ἐν ᾧpresently is like
ἐν τούτῳ in
310D
where see note: Heindorf cites Eur.
Iph. T. 1057
καὶ τἄμ’ ἐν ὑμῖν ἐστιν ἢ καλῶς ἔχειν ἢ μηδὲν εἶναι . For
καὶ ἐν ᾧ we should at first sight expect
καὶ ἐν αὐτῷ : for the Greek idiom is relative+anaphoric pronoun, not relative+relative, when the two pronouns have the same antecedent and are connected by a conjunction: e.g.
Gorg. 452D
τί ἐστι τοῦτο ὃ φὴ|ς σὺ μέγιστον ἀγαθὸν εἶναι—καὶ σὲ δημιουργὸν εἶναι αὐτοῦ: see the Editor's note on
Apol. 40A
. Here, however, the fact that the relative precedes its antecedent (
ὃ δὲ περὶ πλείονος—περὶ δὲ τούτου ) makes the rule inoperative; and there are other exceptions, e.g.
Rep. II. 374B
καὶ τῶν ἄλλων ἑνὶ ἑκάστῳ ὡσαύτως ἓν ἀρεδίδομεν, ρπὸς ὃ ρεφύκει ἕκαστος καὶ ἐφ’ ᾧ ἔμελλε τῶν ἄλλων σχολὴν ἄγων διὰ βίου αὐτὸ ἐπγαζόμενος—καλῶς ἀπεργάζεσθαι, and
Theaet. 192B
καὶ ὃ οἶδεν καὶ ὃ αἰσθάνεται(where, however, Bonitz rejects the second
ὅ , perhaps rightly).
τῷ ἀφικομένῳ τούτῳ ξένῳ
. Heindorf's suggestion
τῷ ἀφικομένῳ τούτῳ τῷ ξένῳ would convey a somewhat different meaning, viz. ‘this arrival, the foreigner’. The presence of
ἀφικομένῳ renders the article after
τούτῳ unnecessary: cf. below,
337E
τὸ ἀκριβὲς τοῦτο εἶδος . There is some contempt in
τούτῳ =
isti (see note on
Apol. 45A
), and much scorn in
τὴν σὴν ψυχήν , repeated slowly at the end of the clause.
ὄρθριος
: the MSS. have
ὄρθριον by mistake. The adjectival construction of this word is found in
Laws, XII. 961B
δεῖν δὲ ὄρθριον εἶναι τὸν σύλλογον .
γιγνώσκεις
. The present is regularly used of being acquainted with a person, e.g.
Phaedo, 60A
Ξανθίππην, γιγνώσκεις γάρ;
Theaet. 144C
ἀλλὰ σκόπει εἰ γιγνώσκεις αὐτόν. γιγνώσκω. In Plato the perfect is generally used of knowing
things : e.g.
Apol. 23B
ὅστις—ἔγνωκεν ὅτι κτλ.,
Euthyphr. 2C
τοσοῦτον πρᾶγμα ἐγνωκέναι.
οὔτε διείλεξαι οὐδεπώποτε
, sc.
αὐτῷ : cf. on
313A
l. 8 above.
ᾧ μέλλεις σαυτὸν ἐπιτρέπειν
is wrongly rejected by Cobet. The words are to be taken closely with
τὸν δὲ σοφιστὴν ὅ τί ποτ’ ἔστιν φαίνει ἀγνοῶν : that Hippocrates should entrust himself to that of which he knows nothing is the climax of Socrates' rebuke.
ἔοικεν
: sc.
εἶναι , i.e. be true (not
ἐμὲ ἀγνοεῖν , which is doubtful Greek for
ἔοικα ἀγνοεῖν ). The subject is simply ‘it’, as in
Rep. I. 333C
, where
ἔοικεν is similarly for
ἔοικεν εἶναι .
τυγχάνει ὢν—ψυχὴ τρέφεται.
τυγχάνει ὤνis virtually equivalent to ‘really is’: cf.
Gorg. 468D
οἰόμενος ἄμεινον εἶναι αὐτῷ, τυγχάνει δὲ ὂν κάκιον, and note on
Euthyphr. 4E
. The
ἔμπορος is a travelling merchant who trades on a larger scale than the retail dealer or
κάπηλος : see
Rep. II. 371D
ἢ οὐ καπήλους καλοῦμεν τοὺς ρπὸς ὠνήν τε καὶ ρπᾶσιν διακονοῦντας ἱδπυμένους ἐν ἀγορᾷ, τοὺς δὲ πλανήτας ἐπὶ τὰς πόλεις ἐμπόρους
;The same account of the Sophist as
ἔμπορός τις περὶ τὰ τῆς ψυχῆς μαθήματα (
Soph. 231E
) is given in
Soph. 223C
-224E.
φαίνεται γὰρ ἔμοιγε τοιοῦτός τις
. We follow Schleiermacher in giving these words to Socrates. Turner judiciously points out that
γε in
ἔμοιγε is only appropriate if Socrates speaks the words, and that Hippocrates could hardly assent till he knew what
τροφὴ ψυχῆς meant.
ὅπως γε μὴ—ἐπαινῶν ἃ πωλεῖ ἐξαπατήσει.
πωλεῖνis ‘to have on sale’: ‘to sell’ is
ἀποδίδοσθαι . Cobet,
Novae Lectiones, p. 159. For
ἐξαπατήσει the MSS. have
ἐξαπατήσῃ , but the 1st aor. conj. is very doubtful in Plato after
ὅπως μή (see on the whole question Kühner's
Griechische Grammatik, II, 899), and final
‐ῃ and
‐ει are frequently confused in the MSS.
ὁ ἔμπορός τε καὶ κάπηλος.
ἔμπορός τε καὶ κάπηλοςtogether make a plural, and according to strict logic would require a plural article; but
ὁ is written by attraction instead of the grammatically impossible
οἱ . Cf.
Symp. 186C
ὁ διαγιγνώσκων —τὸν καλόν τε καὶ αἰσχρὸν ἔρωτα; below,
355E
τά ὀνόματα—τὸ ἡδύ τε καὶ ἀνιαρόν .
τυγχάνεις ἐπιστήμων.
τυγχάνειςhas sunk to a mere copula. It is not necessary to insert
ὤν after
ἐπιστήμων , although it is only in a few cases that
τυγχάνω (in this sense) occurs in Plato's MSS. without the participle expressed, viz.
Phaedr. 263C
μέγιστον τῶν ἀγαθῶν τυγχάνει ;
Gorg. 502B
εἰ δέ τι τυγχάνει ἀηδὲς καὶ ὠφέλιμον;
Rep. II. 369B
τυγχάνει ἡμῶν ἕκαστος οὐκ αὐτάρκης ἀλλὰ πολλῶν ἐνδεής;
Alc. I, 129A
ῥᾴδιον τυγχάνει τὸ γνῶναι ἑαυτόν ;
ibid. 133A
ἐκεῖνο ᾧ τοῦτο τυγχάνει ὅμοιον . In these cases (as here in the
Protagoras ) it is easy to suppose that the participle has fallen out from ‘lipography’: but in
Hipp. Maior (perhaps pseudo-Platonic),
300A
and in
Laws, XI. 918C
, and
Timaeus, 61C, the participle cannot be so easily supplied: and that the construction without the participle was used in everyday speech appears from
Ar.
Eccl. 1141
καὶ τῶν θεατῶν εἴ τις εὔνους τυγχάνει. See Rutherford's
New Phrynichus, p. 342.
περὶ τοῖς φιλτάτοις.
τὰ φίλταταis used here of the soul's health as in
Gorg. 513A
σὺν τοῖς φιλτάτοις ἡ αἵρεσις ἡμῖν ἔσται ταύτης τῆς δυνάμεως τῆς ἐν τῇ πόλει.
κυβεύῃς τε καὶ κινδυνεύῃς
. Cobet rejects
τε καὶ κινδυνεύῃς , but Plato often puts metaphor and interpretation side by side. Cf. below
314B
ἐν αὐτῇ τῇ ψυχῇ λαβόντα καὶ μαθόντα (where Deuschle wrongly rejected
καὶ μαθόντα );
334D
σύντεμνέ μοι τὰς ἀποκρίσεις καὶ βραχυτέρας ποίει ;
Euthyd. 297C
πολὺ γάρ πού εἰμι φαυλότερος τοῦ Ἡρακλέους, ὃς οὐχ οἶός τε ἦν τῇ τε ὕδπᾳ διαμάχεσθαι, σοφιστπίᾳ οὔσῃ καὶ διὰ τὴν σοφίαν ἀνιείσῃ, εἰ μίαν κεφαλὴν ἀροτμηθείη τοῦ λόγου, ρολλὰς ἀντὶ τῆς μιᾶς, καὶ καπκίνῳ τινὶ ἑτέπῳ σοφιστῇ . . . ὃς ἐρειδὴ αὐτὸν ἐλύρει οὕτως ἐκ τοῦ ἐπ’ ἀριστερὰ λέγων καὶ δάκνων κτλ.;
Lach. 194C
χειμαζομένοις ὲν λόγῳ καὶ ἀποροῦσιν;
Theaet. 174C
εἰς φρέατά τε καὶ πᾶσαν ἀπορίαν ἐμπίπτων. See also note on
τοὺς τῶν νέων τὰς βλάστας διαφθείροντας in
Euthyphr. 3A
.
παρὰ τοῦ καπήλου καὶ ἐμπόρου
: so B. The
κάπηλος is put in the foreground as the most usual seller of
σιτία and
ποτά : the article is expressed only once, because the
κάπηλος and
ἔμπορος both belong to the same genus ‘merchants’: cf.
Hdt. IV. 71
τὸν οἰνοχόον καὶ μάγειρον καὶ ἱπποκόμον καὶ διήκονον καὶ ἀγγελιηφόρον κτλ. There is no sufficient ground for bracketing the words
παρὰ τοῦ καπήλου καὶ ἐμπόρου as is done by Schanz, nor for reading
παρά του (with T) and omitting
καπήλου καὶ ἐμπόρου , as Hermann did.
ἐν ἄλλοις ἀγγείοις
: i.e. other than our own bodies. Cf.
311E
τί ὄνομα ἄλλο γε λεγόμενον περὶ Πρωταγόρου ἀκούομεν
; It need not be implied that the body is itself an
ἀγγεῖον (viz. of soul), though the notion is not unplatonic, and kindred expressions are found in later philosophy, e.g. Marcus Aurel. X. 38
τὸ περικείμενον ἀγγειῶδες καὶ τὰ ὀργάνια ταῦτα τὰ περιπεπλασμένα (said of the body).
ἐν αὐτῇ τῇ ψυχῇ λαβόντα καὶ μαθόντα.
λαμβάνειν ἐν(not
εἰς ) as in
Rep. VII. 517A
εἴ πως ἐν ταῖς χερσὶ δύναιντο λαβεῖν;
Soph. 243C
ταὐτὸν τοῦτο πάθος εἰληφότες ἐν τῇ ψυχῇ. For
καὶ μαθόντα , which is explanatory of
ἐν αὐτῇ τῇ ψυχῇ λαβόντα , see note on
κυβεύῃς τε καὶ κινδυνεύῃς .
νέοι ὥστε τοσοῦτον
. Heindorf quotes Eur.
Andr. 80
γέρων ἐκεῖνος ὥστε σ’ ὠφελεῖν παρών , and points out that whereas
νεώτεροι ἢ ὥστε would deny altogether
ἡ τοῦ διελέσθαι δύναμις , the words
νέοι ὥστε are less strong;
nobis nonnisi iuvenilis quaedam facultas suppetit ad tantam rem diiudicandam . The best MSS. of Plato read
ταὐτόν, τοιοῦτον, τοσοῦτον , etc., in the great majority of cases rather than
ταὐτό , etc. Schanz (Preface to
Laws, p. vi) thinks it probable that Plato always used the forms in
‐ν . In inscriptions of Plato's time
τὸ αὐτό and
τὸ αὐτόν occur side by side, but apparently only
τοιοῦτον, τοσοῦτον . See Meisterhans,
Grammatik der Griechischen Inschriften
2 , p. 122.
Ἱππίας
. Hippias of Elis was one of the most accomplished and—if we may trust the Platonic writings—ostentatious of the Sophists. According to the
Hippias Maior (285B ff.) he claimed to be at home in all the learning of the day—in Astronomy, Geometry, Arithmetic, Philology, Music, Mythology, History and Archaeology. See Zeller's
Philosophie der Griechen, I
4 , 956 ff.
οἶμαι δὲ καὶ Πρόδικον τὸν Κεῖον
. Contrast
Crat. 402B
οἶμαι δὲ καὶ Ἡσίοδος. Either construction is admissible. Prodicus of Ceos is repeatedly mentioned in the Platonic writings. A fellow-citizen of the poet Simonides (below,
339E
, he professed like Gorgias and Hippias to educate young men (
Apol. 19E
,
Theages, 127E,
Rep. X. 600C
) and received very large sums in return for his instruction together with the gratitude of his pupils. On one occasion, when in charge of a political mission from Ceos, he is said to have won great reputation in the
βουλή at Athens for his conduct of public business, and to have given at the same time private lectures, which were popular and well paid (
Hipp. Maior, 282C). He laid great stress on the importance of using words in their correct sense (
ὀρθότης ὀνομάτων ): see below,
337A
358A
and
Euthyd. 277E
,
Charm. 163D,
Lach. 197D; cf. also
Phaedr. 267B
; but this was only taught (we are told) in his 50-drachma lecture; the impecunious Socrates had only paid one drachma and was not quite master of this subject (
Crat. 384B
). Socrates is fond of professing himself a pupil of Prodicus, e.g. below,
341A
Meno, 96D
,
Charm. 163D. Prodicus wrote eulogies of Heracles and others (
Symp. 177B
): the substance, if not the actual words, of his Apologue of Heracles at the cross-roads is given by Xenophon,
Mem. II. 1. 21. A scholiast on
Rep. X. 600C
says the Athenians put him to death by hemlock for corrupting the youth, but there is no other authority for this unlikely story. Cf. Zeller, I
4 , 952 ff.
κινδυνεύει—ἄχθεσθαι
. Present, because the dialogue is narrated just after it took place (see
309B
, and as Protagoras is still with Callias, the stream of visitors probably continues. It is not quite clear why the number of the
sophists should have made the porter annoyed
with the visitors, unless the visitors themselves were sophists. Probably therefore
τοῖς φοιτῶσιν means
τοῖς φοιτῶσιν σοφισταῖς : in the porter's judgement the house was already too full of sophists.
φοιτᾶν implies frequent visitation: cf.
Lach. 181C
χρῆν μὲν οὖν καὶ πρότερόν σε φοιτᾶν αὐτὸν παρ’ ἡμᾶς καὶ οἰκείους ἡγεῖσθαι.
ἐκρούσαμεν τὴν θύραν
. There was a metal knocker (
ῥόπτρον, κόραξ, ἐπίσπαστρον ) on the
αὔλειος θύρα . Blümner,
Gr. Privatalt. p. 149.
οὐ σχολὴ αὐτῷ
. For
αὐτῷ ‘the master’ cf. below,
315B
Rep. I. 327B
ἠρόμην ὅπου αὐτὸς εἴη, and the Pythagorean
αὐτὸς ἔφα
ipse dixit .
ἀμφοῖν τοῖν χεροῖν
. So B: T has
ταῖν for
τοῖν . Cobet has shown that the dual feminine of the article is the same as the dual masculine:
Variae Lectiones, p. 70.
ἐκρούομεν
, but
ἐκρούσαμεν in l. 9. Socrates pretends to be somewhat staggered by the rebuff.
ἐγκεκλῃμένης
. So Bekker for
ἐγκεκλειμένης of B: the Attic form is
κλῄω not
κλείω : Cobet,
Var. Lect. p. 159.
ἅνθρωπος
. According to Ast, the Greeks sometimes used
ἀνήρ and
ἄνθρωπος without the article of a definite person
sed ita ut vel contemptionem vel reprehensionem aliquam simul indicarent . But in the cases quoted in support of this usage where the word is in an oblique case, the meaning is quite general like the English ‘a man’, e.g.
Rep. X. 596C
δεινόν τινα λέγεις καὶ θαυμαστὸν ἄνδρα;
Phaedo, 98B
ὁρῶ ἄνδρα τῷ μὲν νῷ οὐδὲν χρώμενον; Soph.
Phil. 1228
ἀπάταισιν αἰσχραῖς ἄνδρα καὶ δόλοις ἑλών ;
Theaet. 155D
ἐάν σοι ἀνδρός, μᾶλλον δὲ ἀνδρῶν ὀνομαστῶντῆς διανοίας τὴν ἀλήθειαν—συνεξερευνήσωμαι: it is therefore safer to suppose (with Schanz and most Platonic scholars) that where
ἀνήρ and
ἄνθρωπος of the MSS. can only be translated by ‘the man’, the rough breathing should be restored: e.g. below,
315E
and
Phaedr. 267A
, 268C;
Rep. I. 331E
.
προστῴῳ
. The
αὐλή was surrounded by cloisters. This
προστῷον is doubtless that on which the passage from the
πρόθυρον opened.
Πάραλος—Ἀντίμοιρος
. The mother of Xanthippus and Paralus had once been the wife of Hipponicus, to whom she bare Callias: Plut.
Pericl. XXIV. 9. In
320A
as well as in
Meno, 94B
Plato remarks that Pericles was unable to teach the art of statesmanship to either of his two sons: cf.
Alc. I, 118E
τὼ— Περικλέους υἱέε ἠλιθίω ἐγενέσθην . They both died of the plague. One of the most interesting fragments of Protagoras describes the fortitude of Pericles when his sons died: see Appendix 11, p. 221, Frag. 3. Charmides, son of the elder Glaucon, was Plato's maternal uncle: the dialogue
Charmides is named after him. He was
φιλόσοφός τε καὶ πάνυ ποιητικός (
Charm. 155A), and as remarkable for
σωφροσύνη as for personal beauty (
ibid. 157D). He was afterwards one of the Ten, and fell along with Critias at the battle of Munychia in 404 B.C. (Xen.
Hell. II. 4. 19). Of Philippides and his father Philomelus and Antimoerus of Mende (on the west coast of the peninsula Pallene) nothing further is known.
τούτων—ἐφαίνοντο
. B and T omit
οἵ , which was inserted by Stephanus: Heindorf prefers to insert
ὧν after
λεγομένων . The MSS. reading could only be defended if
ἐφαίνοντο could be regarded as parenthetical =
ὡς ἐφαίνοντο , like
δοκεῖ μοι =
ὡς δοκεῖ μοι (see on
314C
above), but there seems to be no authority for such a use of
φαίνομαι . It is hardly to be supposed that in
ἐπακούοντες and
ἐπήκοοι (in B below) there is an allusion to an outer circle of Protagorean students, deemed unworthy of the subtlest teaching of the master, in spite of
Theaet. 152C
, where Socrates is hardly serious.
ἐξ ἑκάστων τῶν πόλεων
. The plural is used as in
Theaet. 157C
παρατίθημι ἑκάστων τῶν σοφῶν ἀπογεύσασθαιand
Rep. X. 601A
χρώματ’ ἄττα ἑκάστων τῶν τεχνῶν.
χορῷ
. The tragic chorus consisted of 15
χορευταί , arranged in 3 rows (
στοῖχοι ) of 5 each, the leader (
κορυφαῖος ) being in the middle of the first. So here Protagoras occupies the middle of a row of 7. With the metaphor cf.
Theaet. 173B
τοὺς— τοῦ ἡμετέρου χοροῦand
ibid. C
λέγωμεν δὴ—περὶ τῶν κορυφαίων ;
Phaedr. 246E
ff.
ηὐλαβοῦντο
. The MSS. have
εὐλαβοῦντο , but in the classic period
εὐ‐ (and
εἰ‐ ) were always augmented in the past tenses, while after 300 B.C.
ηὐ‐ does not appear on inscriptions. See Meisterhans,
Gr. der Att. Inschr.
2 , p. 136.
ἐν θρόνῳ—ἐπὶ βάθρων
. Hippias is depicted as a schoolmaster among his pupils.
Ἐρυξίμαχός τε—Ἄνδρων ὁ Ἀνδροτίωνος
. Eryximachus and his father Acumenus were doctors. The former delivers one of the speeches in the
Symposium, defining his art as
ἐπιστήμη τῶν τοῦ σώματος ἐρωτικῶν πρὸς πλησμονὴν καὶ κένωσιν (
Symp. 186C
). Phaedrus, son of Pythocles, of the deme of
Μυρρινοῦς in the tribe
Πανδιονίς , also appears in the
Symposium, and gives his name to the dialogue
Phaedrus. Andron, son of Androtion (so T here, and both B and T in
Gorg. 487C
—the
Ἀριστίωνος of B is therefore a mistake), is in the
Gorgias described as one of those who shared the view of Callicles, that too much
φιλοσοφία ruined men. His son is believed to have been the orator Androtion.
περὶ φύσεως
. The primary substance which early Greek philosophy sought to discover was called by them
φύσις : see Aristotle,
Met. IV. 4, p. 1014
b . 32 ff.
τοῦτον γὰρ τὸν τρόπον καὶ τῶν φύσει ὄντων τὰ στοιχεῖά φασιν εἶναι φύσιν, οἱ μὲν ρῦπ, οἱ δὲ γῆν, οἱ δ’ ἀέπα, οἱ δ’ ὕδωπ, οἱ δ’ ἄλλο τι τοιοῦτον λέγοντες, οἱ δ’ ἔνια τούτων, οἱ δὲ πάντα ταῦτα . Thus (among others) Heraclitus, Anaxagoras, and Empedocles called their books
περὶ φύσεως , i.e. on the substance which gives birth (
φύει ) to all else. By Plato's time the word had acquired a wider meaning equivalent to ‘de rerum natura’, our ‘Nature’, and it is in this sense that the word is here used.
ἀστρονομικὰ ἄττα
. Schanz brackets
ἀστρονομικά , but the word is meant to be taken rather with
μετεώρων than with
φύσεως . On Hippias' skill in astronomy cf.
Hipp. Minor,
367E
ἦς (sc.
ἀστρονομικῆς )
αὖ σὺ τέχνης ἔτι μᾶλλον ἐπιστήμων οἴει εἶναι ἢ τῶν ἔμπροσθεν .
Τάνταλόν γε
.
Od. XI. 582
καὶ μὴν Τάνταλον εἰσεῖδον κρατέρ’ ἄλγε’ ἔχοντα. Prodicus is compared to Tantalus because of his physical wretchedness: see
Crat. 395E
καὶ ἀτεχνῶς ἔοικεν ὥσρεπ ἂν εἴ τις βουλόμενος ταλάντατον ὀνομάσαι, ἀροκπυρτόμενος ὀνομάσειε καὶ εἴροι ἀντ’ ἐκείνου Τάνταλον· τοιοῦτόν τι καὶ τούτῳ τὸ ὄνομα ἔοικεν ἐκπορίσαι ἡ τύχη τῆς φήμης.
ἐπιδημεῖ γὰρ ἄρα
. Heindorf's correction
ἐπιδημεῖ for
ἐπεδήμει seems to be necessary, as Prodicus is still in Athens. Just so the presential tenses are used in
314D
κινδυνεύει δὲ— ἄχθεσθαι and below, l. 14
κατάλυσιν πεποίηκεν . If the clause is taken as a parenthetical clause of explanation, there is nothing harsh in the construction:
ἦν δὲ ἐν οἰκήματί τινι naturally enough follows on
εἰσεῖδον . For
γὰρ ἄρα (a somewhat rare combination) Heindorf quotes
Rep. IV. 438A
πάντες γὰρ ἄρα τῶν ἀγαθῶν ἐπιθυμοῦσιν,
Symp. 205B
ἀφελόντες γὰρ ἄρα(so T: B has only
γάρ )
τοῦ ἔρωτός τι εἶδος ὀνομάζομεν ,
Laws, III. 698D
συνάψαντες γὰρ ἄρα τὰς χεῖρας σαγηνεύσαιεν πᾶσαν τὴν Ἐρετρικήν. γὰρ ἄραalways introduces something supposed to be known to the person addressed: see
314B
οἶμαι δὲ καὶ Πρόδικον τὸν Κεῖον .
Παυσανιας
is known from the
Symposium 180C ff. The deme
Κεραμῆς was in the tribe Acamantis.
ὡς μὲν ἐγᾦμαι is to be taken closely with
καλόν τε κἀγαθὸν τὴν φύσιν .
τὴν δ’ οὖν ἰδέαν πάνυ καλός
. Cf.
Symp. 174A
ταῦτα δὴ ἐκαλλωπισάμην ἵνα καλὸς παρὰ καλὸν(i.e.
Ἀγάθωνα )
ἴω . There is no ground for reading
καλόν for
καλός with Stephanus: cf.
Lach. 180E
τὰ γὰρ μειράκια τάδε—διαλενόμενοι.
Ἀγάθωνα
. It is at the poet Agathon's house that the scene of the
Symposium is laid. From his speech in that dialogue 194D ff. we should infer that he had studied under Prodicus to some purpose. Born about 447 B.C., Agathon was first successful on the tragic stage at an early age: cf.
Symp. 175E
ἡ δὲ σὴ (sc.
Ἀγάθωνος σοφία )
λαμπρά τε καὶ πολλὴν ἐπίδοσιν ἔχουσα, ἥ γε παρὰ σοῦ νέου ὄντος οὕτω σφόδπα ἐξέλαμψε καὶ ἐκφανὴς ἐγένετο ρπώην ἐν μάρτυσι τῶν Ἑλλήνων πλέον ἢ τρισμυρίοις . He visited the court of Archelaus about 407 B.C. and died probably about 400. That he was held in esteem by the Athenians appears from
Ar.
Frogs, 83 ff
.
Ἀγάθων δὲ ποῦ ’σθ’; ὅπου ’στ’; ἀπολιπών μ’ οἴχεται ἀγαθὸς ποιητὴς καὶ ποθεινὸς τοῖς φίλοις . For
παιδικὰ Παυσανίου cf.
Symp. 193B.
τοῦτ’ ἦν τὸ μειράκιον
. So BT: the idiom is like our ‘There was this young man’. The nearest parallels seem to be
Phaedo, 59B
ἦν δὲ καὶ Κτήσιππος ὁ Παιανιεύςand
Rep. X. 615D
ἦσαν δὲ καὶ ἰδιῶταί τινες. τοῦτό τε δή(Ast),
τοῦτό τ’ οὖν (Heindorf),
τοῦτ’ ἔνδον ἦν (Schirlitz), have been suggested, while Kroschel rejects the words, but the text is probably sound.
τὼ Ἀδειμάντω
. Adimantus son of Cepis is not elsewhere named. The son of Leucolophidas was afterwards
στρατηγός under Alcibiades, whose policy he supported (Xen.
Hell. I. 4. 21): he was taken prisoner at the battle of Aegospotami, but spared by the Spartans. He was afterwards put on his trial by Conon on the charge, not improbably a true one, of having betrayed the Athenian fleet at this battle: see Kock on
Ar.
Frogs, 1512
.
πάσσοφος—ἁνήρ—καὶ θεῖος
. For
ἁνήρ BT read
ἀνήρ , but see on
314E
above.
πάσσοφος is often ironical: e.g.
Euthyd. 271C
ὃ δὲ σὺ ἐρωτᾷς τὴν σοφίαν αὐτοῖν, θαυμασία, ὦ Κρίτων· πάσσοφοι ἀτεχνῶς τώ γε, οὐδ’ ᾔδη πρὸ τοῦ ὅ τι εἶεν οἱ παγκρατιασταί . For the meaning of
θεῖος cf.
Meno, 99C
οὐκοῦν—ἄξιον
τούτους θείους καλεῖν τοὺς ἄνδρας, οἵτινες νοῦν μὴ ἔχοντες πολλὰ καὶ μεγάλα κατορθοῦσιν ὧν πράττουσιν καὶ λέγουσι; θεῖος(in the form
σεῖος ) was the favourite Spartan word of praise and was much affected by the Socratic circle in Athens.
Κριτίας
the foremost of the Thirty so-called tyrants was related to Plato on the mother's side, Perictione Plato's mother being granddaughter of the elder Critias, who was father of Callaeschrus. He is one of the
dramatis personae in the
Charmides and
Timaeus, and the dialogue
Critias is named after him. A scholiast on the
Timaeus, 20A (quoted by Stallbaum) describes him as
γενναίας καὶ ἁδρᾶς φύσεως, ἥπτετο δὲ καὶ φιλοσόφων συνουσιῶν, καὶ ἐκαλεῖτο ἰδιώτης μὲν ἐν φιλοσόφοις, φιλόσοφος δὲ ἐν ἰδιώταις . For the fragments of his poems see Bergk's
Poetae Lyrici Graeci
4 , II, 279 ff.
ἔτι σμίκρ’ ἄττα—διαθεασάμενοι.
σμίκρ’ ἄτταis the plural of
σμικρόν τι , and as
ἔτι σμικρόν τι διατρίψαντες would mean ‘after a little further delay’, so
ἔτι σμίκρ’ ἄττα διατρίψαντες means ‘after some little further delays’. The reference in
ἔτι is to
314C
ταῦτα in
καὶ ταῦτα refers to the causes of the delays, which were, as usual, some topics of discourse: its antecedent is involved in
διατρίψαντες .
πρὸς σέ τοι ἤλθομεν
. Here, as in
314E
both B and T have
τι for
τοι : but
τι is impossible here, and this use of
τοι is very frequent in address: Heindorf refers (
inter alia ) to
Ar.
Plut. 1100
σέ τοι σέ τοι λέγω, Καρίων, ἀνάμεινον .
οἴεταί οἱ μάλιστ’ ἂν γενέσθαι
. B and T read
μάλιστα without
ἄν : see on
Crito, 51E
. It is more likely that
ἄν should have dropped out after
μάλιστα here than that Plato's usage should have varied with
οἴομαι and the aorist infinitive referring to the future: cf. below,
353B
ᾗ οἶμαι ἂν ἔγωγε κάλλιστα φανερὸν γενέσθαι , where
ἄν is in all the MSS.
μόνος οἴει δεῖν—πρὸς μόνους.
οἴει δεῖνis virtually like one verb,
ἀξιοῖς or the like: it therefore takes the nom. (not the acc.) with inf.; cf. Demosth.
Fals. Leg. 235
εὐθὺς ἡγούμην ἐν τούτοις—αὐτὸς περιεῖναι δεῖν αὐτῶν καὶ μεγαλοψυχότερος φαίνεσθαι , quoted by Stallbaum on
Crito, 50E
. Note that Protagoras here uses the more precise
μόνος πρὸς μόνους , but above only
μόνῳ (316 B)—unless (with Cobet and Schanz) we there insert
μόνοι before
μόνῳ .
ξένον γὰρ ἄνδρα καὶ ἰόντα κτλ.
For
καὶ ἰόντα T reads in the margin
κατιόντα : Liebhold suggests
καταλύοντα. ἰόντα , however, is parallel to
ξένον and to
πείθοντα , ‘a man who is a stranger and goes—and tries to persuade etc.’ The whole passage recalls
Apol. 19E
-20A
τούτων (viz. Gorgias, Prodicus, Hippias)
γὰρ ἕκαστος—οἷός τ’ ἐστὶν ἰὼν εἰς ἑκάστην τῶν πόλεων τοὺς νέους οἷς ἔξεστι τῶν ἑαυτῶν ρολιτῶν ρποῖκα ξυνεῖναι ᾧ ἂν βούλωνται—τούτους ρείθουσι τὰς ἐκείνων ξυνουσίας ἀρολιρόντας σφίσιν ξυνεῖναι χρήματα διδόντας καὶ χάριν προσειδέναι . Notice throughout the longwinded character of Protagoras' speeches: cf. Philostrat.
Vit. Soph. I. 494 (quoted by Kroschel on
320C
,
γνοὺς δὲ τὸν Πρωταγόραν ὁ Πλάτων σεμνῶς μὲν ἑρμηνεύοντα, ὑπτιάζοντα δὲ τῇ σεμνότητι καί που καὶ μακρολογώτερον τοῦ συμμέτρου, τὴν ἰδέαν αὐτοῦ μύθῳ μακρῷ ἐχαρακτήρισεν .
τὸ ἐπαχθὲς αὐτῆς.
ἐπαχθέςlike
φορτικόν means what hearers will resent (think a burden or
ἄχθος ) as in bad taste because presumptuous: cf. Demosth.
de Pace, 4
τὸ λέγειν περὶ ὧν αὐτὸς εἶρέ τις καὶ ρεπὶ αὑτοῦ—οὕτως ἡγοῦμαι φοπτικὸν καὶ ἐπαχθὲς ὥστε κτλ.
τοὺς μὲν ποίησιν.
σοφόςand its derivatives are often used especially in early writers in connection with poetry, e.g Theognis, 19-20
Κύρνε σοφιζομένῳ μὲν ἐμοὶ σφρηγὶς ἐπικείσθω τοῖσδ’ ἔπεσιν , Pindar,
Isthm. 4. 29-30
μελέταν δὲ σοφισταῖς Διὸς ἕκατι πρόσβαλον σεβιζόμενοι .
τοὺς ἀμφί τε Ὀρφέα καὶ Μουσαῖον
= ‘Orpheus and Musaeus and their schools’. The Editors quote
Ar.
Frogs, 1032 ff.
Ὀρφεὺς μὲν γὰρ τελετάς θ’ ἡμῖν κατέδειξε φόνων τ’ ἀρέχεσθαι, Μουσαῖος δ’ ἐξακέσεις τε νόσων καὶ χπησμούς, Ἡσίοδος δὲ γῆς ἐργασίας, καρπῶν ὥρας, ἀρότους· ὁ δὲ θεῖος Ὅμηρος ἀπὸ τοῦ
τιμὴν καὶ κλέος ἔσχεν πλὴν τοῦδ’ ὅτι χρήστ’ ἐδίδαξε, τάξεις, ἀρετάς, ὁπλίσεις ἀνδρῶν
;For the misplacement of
τε cf.
Crito, 43B
ὲν τοσαύτῃ τε ἀγρυπνίᾳ καὶ λύπῃ εἶναι.
Ἴκκος—Ἡρόδικος
. Iccus is mentioned in
Laws, VIII. 839E ff. as a model of temperance. According to Pausanias, he won in the pentathlon at the Olympic Games and afterwards set up as a trainer (
γυμναστής ). Herodicus of Selymbria in Thrace combined the professions of the
γυμναστής and
ἰατρός (
μίξας γυμναστικὴν ἰατρικῇ ). He is described in
Rep. III. 406A
as the inventor of the
παιδαγωγικὴ τῶν νοσημάτων ἰατρική —by means of which he tortured first himself (by prolonging his own dying) and afterwards others:
δυσθανατῶν—ὑπὸ σοφίας εἰς γῆρας ἀφίκετο (
ibid. B).
ὁ νῦν ἔτι ὤν—σοφιστής
. Heindorf reads
ἧττον in place of
ἥττων , but
νῦν ἔτι ὤν is ‘still living’ and
οὐδενὸς ἥττων σοφιστής is a descriptive qualification.
Ἀγαθοκλῆς—Πυθοκλείδης
. Agathocles is mentioned in
Lach. 180D
as teacher of Damon: according to the
Alc. I, 118C Pythoclides also taught Pericles. A scholiast on the
Alc. I (
loc. cit. ) remarks:
Πυθοκλείδης μουσικὸς ἦν τῆς σεμνῆς μουσικῆς διδάσκαλος, καὶ Πυθαγόρειος, οὗ μαθητὴς Ἀγαθοκλῆς, οὗ Λαμπροκλῆς (
Λάμπρος , van Prinsterer),
οὗ Δάμων . With the sentiment compare the imitation in Plut.
Pericl. 4. 2
ὁ δὲ Δάμων ἔοικεν ἄκπος ὢν σοφιστὴς καταδύεσθαι μὲν εἰς τὸ τῆς μουσικῆς ὄνομα ρπὸς τοὺς πολλοὺς ἐπικρυπτόμενος τὴν δεινότητα .
ταῖς τέχναις ταύταις παραπετάσμασιν ἐχρήσαντο
. Cf. Plut.
Pericl. loc. cit.
οὐ μὴν ἔλαθεν ὁ Δάμων τῇ λύρᾳ παρακαλύμματι χρώμενος .
κατὰ τοῦτο εἶναι.
εἶναιis redundant as in Isaeus,
περὶ τοῦ Μενεκλέους κλήρου , 32
ἡμεῖς ὠμόσαμεν εὖ ποιεῖν ἀλλήλους— κατὰ δύναμιν εἶναι, καὶ λόγῳ καὶ ἔργῳ , and in the common
ἑκὼν εἶναι : but no other instance of the precise phrase
κατὰ τοῦτο εἶναι is quoted.
οἵ γε πολλοὶ—οὐδὲν αἰσθάνονται
. Cf.
Gorg. 474A
τοὺς δὲ πολλοὺς ἐῶ χαίρειν, καὶ ἕνα ἐπιψηφίζειν ἐπίσταμαι, τοῖς δὲ πολλοῖς οὐδὲ διαλέγομαι. For
ὡς ἔπος εἰπεῖν (to be taken with
οὐδὲν ) see on
Apol. 17A
. The phrase is used to qualify the comprehension of a word or phrase, generally
οὐδείς or
πάντες .
τὸ οὖν—ἐπιχειρήματος
. B and T read
τὸν for
τό , by a natural error. Heindorf compares
Theaet. 144A
τὸ γὰρ εὐμαθῆ ὄντα—ρπᾷον αὖ εἶναι διαφεπόντως—ἐγὼ μὲν οὔτ’ ἂν ᾠόμην γενέσθαι κτλ.and
Rep. I. 331B
τὸ γὰρ μηδὲ ἄκοντά τινα ἐξαπατῆσαι—μέγα μέρος εἰς τοῦτο ἡ τῶν χρημάτων κτῆσις συμβάλλεται. Here
καὶ τοῦ ἐπιχειρήματος is a virtual repetition of
ἀποδιδράσκοντα : cf.
τὸν ταῦτα πράττοντα above in
316C
The sentence reminds one of the practice observed in Spartan education—to punish the youths not for stealing but for failing to escape with their booty: Xen.
Rep. Laced. 2. 8
εἴποι δ’ ἂν οὖν τις· τί δῆτα, εἴρεπ τὸ κλέρτειν ἀγαθὸν ἐνόμιζε, ρολλὰς ρληγὰς ἐρέβαλε τῷ ἁλισκομένῳ; ὅτι, φημὶ ἐγώ, καὶ τἄλλα, ὅσα ἄνθπωροι διδάσκουσι, κολάζουσι τὸν μὴ καλῶς ὑπηρετοῦντα : cf.
Rep. I. 361A
τὸν ἁλισκόμενον δὲ φαῦλον ἡγητέον.
τούτων τὴν ἐναντίαν ἅπασαν ὁδόν
. ‘h. e.
τὴν ὁδὸν ἣ ἅπασά ἐστιν ἐναντία τούτων . pro
τούτων eadem comparatione quae vocatur compendiaria dici potuit
τούτοις . Andocid. or. I. 4
ἐγὼ πολὺ τὴν ἐναντίαν τούτοις γνώμην ἔχω ’ (Kroschel). For
ἅπασαν with an adjective compare (with Kroschel) Xen.
Anab. I. 5. I
ἧν ἡ γῆ πεδίον ἅπαν ὁμαλὲς ὥσπερ θάλαττα and the common phrase
πᾶν τοὐναντίον .
σοφιστὴς εἶναι καὶ παιδεύειν ἀνθρώπους
. The
σοφιστὴς σοφίζει , i.e.
παιδεύει : see note on
312C
above.
Theaet. 167C (where Socrates is speaking for Protagoras)
ὁ σοφιστὴς τοὺς ραιδευομένους οὕτω δυνάμενος ραιδαγωγεῖν σοφός τε καὶ ἄξιος πολλῶν χρημάτων τοῖς παιδευθεῖσιν .
σὺν θεῷ εἰπεῖν
. ‘Crebra modestiae formula, bene explicat Steph.,
quod ita dico, ut in eo opem divinam agnoscam ’. Heindorf on
Theaet. 151B
καὶ σὺν θεῷ εἰπεῖν, πάνυ ἱκανῶς τοπάζω οἶς ἂν συγγενόμενοι ὄναιντο.