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θάρρει, καταθήσεις, κἂν ἔνης ἔλθῃς.

The phrase κἂν ἔνης ἔλθῃς presents a syntactic crux. While κἂν (κἄν) typically introduces a concessive clause ('even if') followed by the subjunctive (which ἔλθῃς is), the verb ἔνειν (to be) appears here in the aorist subjunctive ἔνης. This is an irregular formation; the standard aorist subjunctive of εἰμί is ἐγὼ ἔνῃμι (or contracted forms like ἔνῃ) in Attic prose, but the form ἔνης is attested in comedy as a metrical contraction of ἔνῃς or a dialectal variant of the aorist, distinct from the present subjunctive εἶναι. The usage creates a rare instance where the aorist subjunctive of 'to be' functions as a condition for the future action 'you will deposit' (καταθήσεις), implying 'even if you should happen to come' (with the aorist subjunctive suggesting a simple, factual condition rather than a repeated or general one). This construction is often debated in textual criticism regarding whether ἔνης is a corruption of ἔνῃ or a deliberate comic license for meter, as the aorist of εἰμί is exceptionally rare in the subjunctive mood in this position.

Ecclesiazusae. Aristophanes. . 2026-09-08.

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Editions (1)

Ἐκκλησιάζουσαι Perseus (Aristophanes. Aristophanis Comoediae, Vol. 2. Hall, F. W. and Geldart, William M., editors. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1907.) — 805 focus

Ἀνὴρ Α

ἔγωγε· καὶ γὰρ τοὺς ἐμαυτοῦ γείτονας
805

ὁρῶ φέροντας.

Ἀνὴρ Β

πάνυ γʼ ἂν οὖν Ἀντισθένης

αὔτʼ εἰσενέγκοι· πολὺ γὰρ ἐμμελέστερον

πρότερον χέσαι πλεῖν ἢ τριάκονθʼ ἡμέρας.

Ἀνὴρ Α

οἴμωζε.

Ἀνὴρ Β

Καλλίμαχος δʼ ὁ χοροδιδάσκαλος

αὐτοῖσιν εἰσοίσει τι;
810

Ἀνὴρ Α

πλείω Καλλίου.

Ἀνὴρ Β

ἅνθρωπος οὗτος ἀποβαλεῖ τὴν οὐσίαν.

Ἀνὴρ Α

δεινά γε λέγεις.

Ἀνὴρ Β

τί δεινόν; ὥσπερ οὐχ ὁρῶν

ἀεὶ τοιαῦτα γιγνόμενα ψηφίσματα.

οὐκ οἶσθʼ ἐκεῖνʼ οὕδοξε τὸ περὶ τῶν ἁλῶν;

Ἀνὴρ Α

ἔγωγε.
815

Ἀνὴρ Β

τοὺς χαλκοῦς δʼ ἐκείνους ἡνίκα

ἐψηφισάμεθʼ, οὐκ οἶσθα;

Ἀνὴρ Α

καὶ κακόν γέ μοι

τὸ κόμμʼ ἐγένετʼ ἐκεῖνο. πωλῶν γὰρ βότρυς

μεστὴν ἀπῆρα τὴν γνάθον χαλκῶν ἔχων

κἄπειτʼ ἐχώρουν εἰς ἀγορὰν ἐπʼ ἄλφιτα.

ἔπειθʼ ὑπέχοντος ἄρτι μου τὸν θύλακον,
820

ἀνέκραγʼ ὁ κῆρυξ μὴ δέχεσθαι μηδένα

χαλκοῦν τὸ λοιπόν· ἀργύρῳ γὰρ χρώμεθα.

Ἀνὴρ Β

τὸ δʼ ἔναγχος οὐχ ἅπαντες ἡμεῖς ὤμνυμεν

τάλαντʼ ἔσεσθαι πεντακόσια τῇ πόλει

τῆς τετταρακοστῆς, ἣν ἐπόρισʼ Εὐριπίδης;
825

κεὐθὺς κατεχρύσου πᾶς ἀνὴρ Εὐριπίδην·

ὅτε δὴ δʼ ἀνασκοπουμένοις ἐφαίνετο

ὁ Διὸς Κόρινθος καὶ τὸ πρᾶγμʼ οὐκ ἤρκεσεν,

πάλιν κατεπίττου πᾶς ἀνὴρ Εὐριπίδην.

Ἀνὴρ Α

οὐ ταὐτὸν ὦ τᾶν. τότε μὲν ἡμεῖς ἤρχομεν,
830

νῦν δʼ αἱ γυναῖκες.

Ἀνὴρ Β

ἃς ἐγὼ φυλάξομαι

νὴ τὸν Ποσειδῶ μὴ κατουρήσωσί μου.

Ἀνὴρ Α

οὐκ οἶδʼ ὅ τι ληρεῖς. φέρε σὺ τἀνάφορον ὁ παῖς.

Translations (2)

Ecclesiazusae (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Anonymous; 1938 compilation). Migrated from Perseus legacy XML; source wording and notes retained. See TEI header and migration inventory.) — 805 focus

First Man

805 'Pon my soul, yes! Look, there are all my neighbors carrying in all they have.

Second Man
Sarcastically.

Oh yes, it's Antisthenes; he's the type that would contribute! He would just as soon spend the next month sitting on the can.

First Man

The pest seize you!

Second Man

Will Callimachus, the chorus-master, 810 contribute anything?

First Man

Why, more than Callias!

Second Man

The man must want to spend all his money!

First Man

How you weary me!

Second Man

Ah! I weary you? But, wretch, see what comes of decrees of this kind. Don't you remember the one reducing the price of salt?

First Man

815 Why, certainly I do.

Second Man

And do you remember that about the copper coinage?

First Man

Ah! that cursed money did me enough harm. I had sold my grapes and had my mouth stuffed with pieces of copper; indeed I was going to the market to buy flour, 820 and was in the act of holding out my bag wide open, when the herald started shouting, “Let none in future accept pieces of copper; those of silver are alone current.”

Second Man

And quite lately, were we not all swearing that the impost 825 of one-fortieth, which Euripides had conceived, would bring five hundred talents to the state, and everyone was vaunting Euripides to the skies? But when the thing was looked at closely, it was seen that this fine decree was mere moonshine and would produce nothing, and you would have willingly burnt this very same Euripides alive.

First Man

830 The cases are quite different, my good fellow. We were the rulers then, but now it's the women.

Second Man

Whom, by Poseidon, I will never allow to piss on my nose.

First Man

I don't know what the devil you're chattering about. Slave, pick up that bundle.

English (Sanjaya, generated; selected passages) (OCR draft) Experimental (Source: pnadelofficial/aristophanes-sanjaya, commit c319590c139e5603e71f0699caa0663d823af8ad. Machine-generated source annotations retained; see Sanjaya import audit for coverage and limitations.) — 805 focus

Man A: I certainly do; for I even [love] my own neighbors.

805

Man A: I see them carrying.

MAN B: By all means, then, Antisthenes

Man B: Let him bring it in; for it is much more graceful.

Man B: to pour out more than thirty days beforehand.

MAN A: Alas.

Man B: Callimachus, the chorus trainer.

Man B: Will he lead them in?

810

MAN A: More than Callias.

Man B: This man will lose his property.

MAN A: You are speaking terribly.

MAN B: What is terrible? As if you do not see.

MAN B: Resolutions of just this sort, always coming about.

MAN B: Don't you know that that was the decree about the salt?

Man A: As for me, yes.

815

Man B: but those bronze ones when

MAN B: We have voted, do you not know?

Man A: And I have an evil too.

MAN A: That is a hair! For a grape is being sold.

Man A: He lifted the full jaw, holding bronze.

Man A: And then we marched into the market for barley-cakes.

Man A: And so, while I was just now holding out my pouch,

820

Man A: The herald shouted, 'Do not admit anyone!'

MAN A: Then it is bronze; for we use silver.

MAN B: But we all did not swear recently.

MAN B: There will be five hundred talents for the city.

MAN B: Of the fortieth, which Euripides produced?

825

Man B: And then every man will gild Euripides.

Man B: but when it appeared to those looking around

MAN B: The Corinth of Zeus was not enough, and the matter...

Man B: Again, every man was ordering Euripides.

MAN A: Not the same, by the goddesses. Back then we were in command,

830

Man A: Now, however, the women.

Man B: Which ones I will guard

Man B: By Poseidon, may they not urinate on me.

Man A: I do not know what nonsense you are talking. Come, give the deposit to the boy.

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θάρρει, καταθήσεις, κἂν ἔνης ἔλθῃς.

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Ἀνὴρ Α

ἔγωγε· καὶ γὰρ τοὺς ἐμαυτοῦ γείτονας
805

ὁρῶ φέροντας.

Ἀνὴρ Β

πάνυ γʼ ἂν οὖν Ἀντισθένης

αὔτʼ εἰσενέγκοι· πολὺ γὰρ ἐμμελέστερον

πρότερον χέσαι πλεῖν ἢ τριάκονθʼ ἡμέρας.

Ἀνὴρ Α

οἴμωζε.

Ἀνὴρ Β

Καλλίμαχος δʼ ὁ χοροδιδάσκαλος

αὐτοῖσιν εἰσοίσει τι;
810

Ἀνὴρ Α

πλείω Καλλίου.

Ἀνὴρ Β

ἅνθρωπος οὗτος ἀποβαλεῖ τὴν οὐσίαν.

Ἀνὴρ Α

δεινά γε λέγεις.

Ἀνὴρ Β

τί δεινόν; ὥσπερ οὐχ ὁρῶν

ἀεὶ τοιαῦτα γιγνόμενα ψηφίσματα.

οὐκ οἶσθʼ ἐκεῖνʼ οὕδοξε τὸ περὶ τῶν ἁλῶν;

Ἀνὴρ Α

ἔγωγε.
815

Ἀνὴρ Β

τοὺς χαλκοῦς δʼ ἐκείνους ἡνίκα

ἐψηφισάμεθʼ, οὐκ οἶσθα;

Ἀνὴρ Α

οὐ ταὐτὸν ὦ τᾶν. τότε μὲν ἡμεῖς ἤρχομεν,
830

νῦν δʼ αἱ γυναῖκες.

Ἀνὴρ Β

ἃς ἐγὼ φυλάξομαι

νὴ τὸν Ποσειδῶ μὴ κατουρήσωσί μου.

Ἀνὴρ Α

οὐκ οἶδʼ ὅ τι ληρεῖς. φέρε σὺ τἀνάφορον ὁ παῖς.

First Man

805 'Pon my soul, yes! Look, there are all my neighbors carrying in all they have.

Second Man
Sarcastically.

Oh yes, it's Antisthenes; he's the type that would contribute! He would just as soon spend the next month sitting on the can.

First Man

The pest seize you!

Second Man

Will Callimachus, the chorus-master, 810 contribute anything?

First Man

Why, more than Callias!

Second Man

The man must want to spend all his money!

First Man

How you weary me!

Second Man

Ah! I weary you? But, wretch, see what comes of decrees of this kind. Don't you remember the one reducing the price of salt?

First Man

815 Why, certainly I do.

Second Man

And do you remember that about the copper coinage?

First Man

830 The cases are quite different, my good fellow. We were the rulers then, but now it's the women.

Second Man

Whom, by Poseidon, I will never allow to piss on my nose.

First Man

I don't know what the devil you're chattering about. Slave, pick up that bundle.

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Ἀνὴρ Α ἔγωγε· καὶ γὰρ τοὺς ἐμαυτοῦ γείτονας 805 ὁρῶ φέροντας.

Ἀνὴρ Β πάνυ γʼ ἂν οὖν Ἀντισθένης αὔτʼ εἰσενέγκοι· πολὺ γὰρ ἐμμελέστερον πρότερον χέσαι πλεῖν ἢ τριάκονθʼ ἡμέρας.

Ἀνὴρ Α οἴμωζε.

Ἀνὴρ Β Καλλίμαχος δʼ ὁ χοροδιδάσκαλος αὐτοῖσιν εἰσοίσει τι; 810

Ἀνὴρ Α πλείω Καλλίου.

Ἀνὴρ Β ἅνθρωπος οὗτος ἀποβαλεῖ τὴν οὐσίαν.

Ἀνὴρ Α δεινά γε λέγεις.

Ἀνὴρ Β τί δεινόν; ὥσπερ οὐχ ὁρῶν ἀεὶ τοιαῦτα γιγνόμενα ψηφίσματα. οὐκ οἶσθʼ ἐκεῖνʼ οὕδοξε τὸ περὶ τῶν ἁλῶν;

Ἀνὴρ Α ἔγωγε. 815

Ἀνὴρ Β τοὺς χαλκοῦς δʼ ἐκείνους ἡνίκα ἐψηφισάμεθʼ, οὐκ οἶσθα;

Ἀνὴρ Α οὐ ταὐτὸν ὦ τᾶν. τότε μὲν ἡμεῖς ἤρχομεν, 830 νῦν δʼ αἱ γυναῖκες.

Ἀνὴρ Β ἃς ἐγὼ φυλάξομαι νὴ τὸν Ποσειδῶ μὴ κατουρήσωσί μου.

Ἀνὴρ Α οὐκ οἶδʼ ὅ τι ληρεῖς. φέρε σὺ τἀνάφορον ὁ παῖς.

First Man 805 'Pon my soul, yes! Look, there are all my neighbors carrying in all they have.

Second Man Sarcastically. Oh yes, it's Antisthenes; he's the type that would contribute! He would just as soon spend the next month sitting on the can.

First Man The pest seize you!

Second Man Will Callimachus, the chorus-master, 810 contribute anything?

First Man Why, more than Callias!

Second Man The man must want to spend all his money!

First Man How you weary me!

Second Man Ah! I weary you? But, wretch, see what comes of decrees of this kind. Don't you remember the one reducing the price of salt?

First Man 815 Why, certainly I do.

Second Man And do you remember that about the copper coinage?

First Man 830 The cases are quite different, my good fellow. We were the rulers then, but now it's the women.

Second Man Whom, by Poseidon, I will never allow to piss on my nose.

First Man I don't know what the devil you're chattering about. Slave, pick up that bundle.

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Stable identifiers

Ἀνὴρ Α

ἔγωγε· καὶ γὰρ τοὺς ἐμαυτοῦ γείτονας
805

ὁρῶ φέροντας.

Ἀνὴρ Β

πάνυ γʼ ἂν οὖν Ἀντισθένης

αὔτʼ εἰσενέγκοι· πολὺ γὰρ ἐμμελέστερον

πρότερον χέσαι πλεῖν ἢ τριάκονθʼ ἡμέρας.

Ἀνὴρ Α

οἴμωζε.

Ἀνὴρ Β

Καλλίμαχος δʼ ὁ χοροδιδάσκαλος

αὐτοῖσιν εἰσοίσει τι;
810

Ἀνὴρ Α

πλείω Καλλίου.

Ἀνὴρ Β

ἅνθρωπος οὗτος ἀποβαλεῖ τὴν οὐσίαν.

Ἀνὴρ Α

δεινά γε λέγεις.

Ἀνὴρ Β

τί δεινόν; ὥσπερ οὐχ ὁρῶν

ἀεὶ τοιαῦτα γιγνόμενα ψηφίσματα.

οὐκ οἶσθʼ ἐκεῖνʼ οὕδοξε τὸ περὶ τῶν ἁλῶν;

Ἀνὴρ Α

ἔγωγε.
815

Ἀνὴρ Β

τοὺς χαλκοῦς δʼ ἐκείνους ἡνίκα

ἐψηφισάμεθʼ, οὐκ οἶσθα;

Ἀνὴρ Α

οὐ ταὐτὸν ὦ τᾶν. τότε μὲν ἡμεῖς ἤρχομεν,
830

νῦν δʼ αἱ γυναῖκες.

Ἀνὴρ Β

ἃς ἐγὼ φυλάξομαι

νὴ τὸν Ποσειδῶ μὴ κατουρήσωσί μου.

Ἀνὴρ Α

οὐκ οἶδʼ ὅ τι ληρεῖς. φέρε σὺ τἀνάφορον ὁ παῖς.

First Man

805 'Pon my soul, yes! Look, there are all my neighbors carrying in all they have.

Second Man
Sarcastically.

Oh yes, it's Antisthenes; he's the type that would contribute! He would just as soon spend the next month sitting on the can.

First Man

The pest seize you!

Second Man

Will Callimachus, the chorus-master, 810 contribute anything?

First Man

Why, more than Callias!

Second Man

The man must want to spend all his money!

First Man

How you weary me!

Second Man

Ah! I weary you? But, wretch, see what comes of decrees of this kind. Don't you remember the one reducing the price of salt?

First Man

815 Why, certainly I do.

Second Man

And do you remember that about the copper coinage?

First Man

830 The cases are quite different, my good fellow. We were the rulers then, but now it's the women.

Second Man

Whom, by Poseidon, I will never allow to piss on my nose.

First Man

I don't know what the devil you're chattering about. Slave, pick up that bundle.