Homer Iliad 23.586

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Iliad. Homer. Boston. 1870.

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English (William Cullen Bryant, 1870) (OCR draft) (English) (English (William Cullen Bryant, 1870))

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Editions (1)
Ἰλιάς Perseus (Homer. Homeri Opera, Volumes 1-2. Monro, D. B. (David Binning), editor; Allen, Thomas W. (Thomas William), editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1908-1920.) — 23.586 focus
Translations (8)
Iliad Perseus (Homer. The Iliad, Volume 1-2. Murray, A. T. (Augustus Taber), translator. London: William Heinmann; New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1924-1925.) — 23.586 focus
Iliad Perseus (Homer. The Iliad of Homer, rendered into English prose for the use of those who cannot read the original. Butler, Samuel, 1835-1902, translator. London: Longmans, Green, and Co, 1898.) — 23.596 focus
English (Butler, rev. Nagy et al., 2020) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Butler, rev. Nagy et al., 2020)) — 23.586 focus
And Antilokhos answered, “Forgive me; I am much younger, King Menelaos, than you are; you stand higher than I do and are the better man of the two; you know how easily young men are betrayed into indiscretion; [590] their minds [ noos] are more hasty, but their cunning intelligence [ mētis] is slight; make due allowances therefore, and bear with me; I will of my own accord give up the mare that I have won, and if you claim any further chattel from my own possessions, I would rather yield it to you, at once, [595] than fall from your good graces henceforth, and do wrong in the eyes of superhuman forces [ daimones].”
English (Alexander Pope, 1720, ed. Watson, 1857) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Alexander Pope, 1720, ed. Watson, 1857)) — 23.586 focus
The prudent chief with calm attention heard;
Then mildly thus: ‘Excuse, if youth have err'd;
‘Superior as thou art, forgive th' offence,
‘Nor I thy equal, or in years, or sense.
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‘Thou know'st the errors of unripen'd age,
‘Weak are its counsels, headlong is its rage.
‘The prize I quit, if thou thy wrath resign;
‘The mare, or aught thou ask'st, be freely thine,
‘Ere I become (from thy dear friendship torn)
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‘Hateful to thee, and to the gods forsworn.’
English (Thomas Hobbes, 1667, ed. Molesworth 1843) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Thomas Hobbes, 1667, ed. Molesworth 1843)) — 23.586 focus
English (George Chapman, 1611, ed. Hooper 1857) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (George Chapman, 1611, ed. Hooper 1857)) — 23.586 focus
English (William Cowper, 1791, ed. Southey) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (William Cowper, 1791, ed. Southey)) — 23.586 focus
English (F. W. Newman, 1856) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (F. W. Newman, 1856)) — 23 focus

New Alexandria Commentaries

Douglas Frame

comparison of the language of turning for home after routing the Epeians in Nestor’s story in I.11 and the language of rounding the turning post in the chariot race for Patroclus, with a phrase also shared by the second half to the footrace in this verse

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comparison of the footrace with the nostoi of Achaeans (specifically, Odysseus and Ajax)

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comparison of the footrace with the nostoi of Achaeans (specifically, Odysseus and Ajax)

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comparison of the footrace with the nostoi of Achaeans (specifically, Odysseus and Ajax)

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the need to consider the footrace and the chariot race together to see the connection between the games in I.23 and the nostoi, here specifically Antilochus’ case, where it is his footrace that counts for his nostos, not his chariot race, which has primarily to do with Nestor’s former race

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Gregory Nagy

The funeral that Achilles arranges here for Patroklos in the Iliad is in some ways a preview of the funeral that the Achaeans will arrange for Achilles himself beyond the time-frame of the Iliad. A high point of the funeral in Iliad 23 is a spectacular chariot race arranged by Achilles to honor his dead comrade Patroklos. But an earlier high point is a comparably spectacular cremation of his friend’s body. But this cremation of Patroklos, as a ritual, is far from perfect: it is in fact polluted, and the pollution will make Achilles look bad, at least for the moment. The polluted thoughts of the hero, as evidenced by his dragging the corpse of Hector behind his speeding chariot, will drive him to extremes that will challenge the cosmic order. But the Master Narrator of the Iliad will remedy the pollution, and the remedy will take the form of actually narrating the grim story. In the process of this narration, a great lesson will be learned about life, death, and a hoped-for recovery of life.

draft js image errorAchilles dragging the body of Hector. Copperplate etching (1795) by Tommaso Piroli, after a drawing (1793) by John Flaxman. Image via Wikimedia Commons.

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analysis of Zeus’ role in awarding nikē as primary and Athena’s as secondary

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analysis of Zeus’ role in awarding nikē as primary and Athena’s as secondary

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Leonard Muellner

analysis of the versatility of poetic technique to report prayers (invocation, grant of favor, request of favor)

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example of a very compressed prayer, in the context of the analysis of composition by theme in prayers, which can be amplified or minimized according to circumstances

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