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533 (SIMO. CHREMES.)

SIMO

Iubeo Chremetem.

CHARINUS

O, te ipsum quaerebam.

SIMO

Et ego te.

CHARINUS

Optato advenis.

Aliquot me adiere ex te auditum qui aiebant hodie filiam

Meam nubere tuo gnato: id viso tune an illi insaniant.
535

SIMO

Ausculta paucis: et quid ego te velim et tu quod quaeris scies.

CHARINUS

Ausculto: loquere quid velis.

SIMO

Per te deos oro et nostram amicitiam Chreme

Quae incepta a parvis cum aetate accrevit simul,

Perque unicam gnatam tuam et gnatum meum,
540

Cuius tibi potestas summa servandi datur,

Ut me adiuves in hac re, atque ita ut nuptiae

Fuerant futurae fiant.

CHARINUS

Ah ne me obsecra:

Quasi hoc te orando a me impetrare oporteat.

Alium esse censes nunc me atque olim cum dabam?
545

Si in rem est utrique ut fiant, arcessi iube.

Sed si ex ea re plus mali est quam commodi

Utrique, id oro te in commune ut consulas,

Quasi illa tua sit, Pamphilique ego sim pater.

SIMO

Immo ita volo itaque postulo ut fiat Chreme:
550

Neque postulem abs te nisi ipsa res moneat.

CHARINUS

Quid est?

SIMO

Irae sunt inter Glycerium et gnatum.

CHARINUS

Audio.

SIMO

Ita magnae ut sperem posse avelli.

CHARINUS

Fabulae.

SIMO

Profecto sic est.

CHARINUS

Sic hercle ut dicam tibi:

Amantium irae amoris integratio est.
555

SIMO

Hem, id te oro ut ante eamus dum tempus datur,

Dumque eius libido occlusa est contumeliis,

Prius quam harum scelera et lacrimae confictae dolis

Reducunt animum aegrotum ad misericordiam:

Uxorem demus: spero consuetudine et
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Coniugio liberali devinctum Chreme

Dein facile ex illis sese emersurum malis.

CHARINUS

Tibi ita hoc videtur: at ego non posse arbitror

Neque illum hanc perpetuo habere, neque me perpeti.

SIMO

Qui scis ergo istuc nisi periclum feceris?
565

CHARINUS

At istuc periclum in filia fieri grave est.

SIMO

Nempe incommoditas denique huc omnis redit:

Si eveniat quod Di prohibeant, discessio.

At si corrigitur, quot commoditates vide:

Principio amico filium restitueris;
570

Tibi generum firmum et filiae invenias virum.

CHARINUS

Quid istic? si ita istuc animum induxti esse utile,

Nolo tibi ullum commodum in me claudier.

SIMO

Merito te semper maximi feci Chreme.

CHARINUS

Sed quid ais?
575

SIMO

Quid?

CHARINUS

Qui scis eos nunc discordare inter se?

SIMO

Ipsus mihi Davus qui intimus est eorum consiliis dixit;

Et is mihi suadet nuptias quantum queam ut maturem.

Num censes faceret filium nisi sciret eadem haec velle?

Tute adeo iam eius verba audies. Heus evocate huc Davum.

Atque eccum: video ipsum foras exire.
580

Andria. Publius Terentius Afer (Terence). ed. Edward St. John Parry. London. 1857.

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Andria; or, The Fair Andrian Perseus (Terence. The Comedies of Terence. Riley, Henry Thomas; Colman, George, translators. New York: Harper and Brothers, 1872.) — 3.3 focus

533 (Enter CHREMES.)

SIMO

I greet you, Chremes.

CHREMES

O, you are the very person I was looking for.

SIMO

And I for you.

CHREMES

You meet me at a welcome moment. Some persons have been to me, to say that they had heard from you, that my daughter

was to be married to your son to-day; I’ve come to see whether they are out of their senses or you.
535

SIMO

Listen; in a few words you shall learn both what I want of you, and what you seek to know.

CHREMES

I am listening; say what you wish.

SIMO

By the Gods, I do entreat you, Chremes, and by our friendship, which, commencing with our infancy, has grown up with our years,

and by your only daughter and by my own son (of preserving whom the entire power lies with you), that you will assist me in this matter; and that, just as this marriage was about to be celebrated, it may be celebrated.
540

CHREMES

O, don’t importune me; as though you needed to obtain this of me by entreaty.

Do you suppose I am different now from what I was formerly, when I promised her? If it is for the advantage of them both that it should take place, order her to be sent for. But if from this course there would result more harm than advantage for each, this I do beg of you, that you will consult for their common good, as though she were your own daughter, and I the father of Pamphilus.
545

SIMO

Nay, so I intend, and so I wish it to be, Chremes; and I would not ask it of you, did not the occasion itself require it.
550

CHREMES

What is the matter?

SIMO

There is a quarrel between Glycerium and my son.

CHREMES

(ironically.)

I hear you.

SIMO

So munch so, that I’m in hopes they may be separated.

CHREMES

Nonsense!

SIMO

It really is so.

CHREMES

After this fashion, i’faith, I tell you,

the quarrels of lovers are the renewal of love.
555

SIMO

Well—this I beg of you, that we may prevent it. While an opportunity offers, and while his passion is cooled by affronts, before the wiles of these women and their tears, craftily feigned,

bring back his love-sick mind to compassion, let us give him a wife. I trust, Chremes, that, when attached by intimacy and a respectable marriage, he will easily extricate himself from these evils.
560

CHREMES

So it appears to you; but I do not think ¹ that either he can possibly hold to her with constancy, or that I can put up with it if he does not.

SIMO

How then can you be sure of that, unless you make the experiment?
565

CHREMES

But for that experiment to be made upon a daughter is a serious thing—

SIMO

Why look, all the inconvenience in fine amounts to this—possibly, which may the Gods forfend, a separation may take place. But if he is reformed, see how many are the advantages:

in the first place, you will have restored a son to your friend; you will obtain a sure son-in-law ² for yourself, and a husband for your daughter.
570

CHREMES

What is one to say to all this? If you feel persuaded that this is beneficial, I don’t wish that any advantage should be denied you.

SIMO

With good reason, Chremes, have I always considered you a most valuable friend.

CHREMES

But how say you—?
575

SIMO

What?

CHREMES

How do you know that they are now at variance?

SIMO

Davus himself, who is privy to all their plans, has told me so; and he advises me to expedite the match as fast as I can. Do you think he would do so, unless he was aware that my son desired it? You yourself as well shall presently hear what he says. (Goes to the door of his house and calls.) Halloo there! Call Davus out here.

Look, here he is; I see him just coming out.
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SIMO Iubeo Chremetem.

CHARINUS O, te ipsum quaerebam.

SIMO Et ego te.

CHARINUS Optato advenis. Aliquot me adiere ex te auditum qui aiebant hodie filiam Meam nubere tuo gnato: id viso tune an illi insaniant. 535

SIMO Ausculta paucis: et quid ego te velim et tu quod quaeris scies.

CHARINUS Ausculto: loquere quid velis.

SIMO Per te deos oro et nostram amicitiam Chreme Quae incepta a parvis cum aetate accrevit simul, Perque unicam gnatam tuam et gnatum meum, 540 Cuius tibi potestas summa servandi datur, Ut me adiuves in hac re, atque ita ut nuptiae Fuerant futurae fiant.

SIMO Immo ita volo itaque postulo ut fiat Chreme: 550 Neque postulem abs te nisi ipsa res moneat.

CHARINUS Quid est?

SIMO Irae sunt inter Glycerium et gnatum.

CHARINUS Audio.

SIMO Ita magnae ut sperem posse avelli.

CHARINUS Fabulae.

SIMO Profecto sic est.

CHARINUS Sic hercle ut dicam tibi: Amantium irae amoris integratio est. 555

CHARINUS Tibi ita hoc videtur: at ego non posse arbitror Neque illum hanc perpetuo habere, neque me perpeti.

SIMO Qui scis ergo istuc nisi periclum feceris? 565

CHARINUS At istuc periclum in filia fieri grave est.

SIMO Nempe incommoditas denique huc omnis redit: Si eveniat quod Di prohibeant, discessio. At si corrigitur, quot commoditates vide: Principio amico filium restitueris; 570 Tibi generum firmum et filiae invenias virum.

CHARINUS Quid istic? si ita istuc animum induxti esse utile, Nolo tibi ullum commodum in me claudier.

SIMO Merito te semper maximi feci Chreme.

CHARINUS Sed quid ais? 575

SIMO Quid?

CHARINUS Qui scis eos nunc discordare inter se?

SIMO Ipsus mihi Davus qui intimus est eorum consiliis dixit; Et is mihi suadet nuptias quantum queam ut maturem. Num censes faceret filium nisi sciret eadem haec velle? Tute adeo iam eius verba audies. Heus evocate huc Davum. Atque eccum: video ipsum foras exire. 580

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SIMO I greet you, Chremes.

CHREMES O, you are the very person I was looking for.

SIMO And I for you.

CHREMES You meet me at a welcome moment. Some persons have been to me, to say that they had heard from you, that my daughter was to be married to your son to-day; I’ve come to see whether they are out of their senses or you. 535

SIMO Listen; in a few words you shall learn both what I want of you, and what you seek to know.

CHREMES I am listening; say what you wish.

SIMO Nay, so I intend, and so I wish it to be, Chremes; and I would not ask it of you, did not the occasion itself require it. 550

CHREMES What is the matter?

SIMO There is a quarrel between Glycerium and my son.

CHREMES (ironically.) I hear you.

SIMO So munch so, that I’m in hopes they may be separated.

CHREMES Nonsense!

SIMO It really is so.

CHREMES After this fashion, i’faith, I tell you, the quarrels of lovers are the renewal of love. 555

CHREMES So it appears to you; but I do not think 1 that either he can possibly hold to her with constancy, or that I can put up with it if he does not.

SIMO How then can you be sure of that, unless you make the experiment? 565

CHREMES But for that experiment to be made upon a daughter is a serious thing—

CHREMES What is one to say to all this? If you feel persuaded that this is beneficial, I don’t wish that any advantage should be denied you.

SIMO With good reason, Chremes, have I always considered you a most valuable friend.

CHREMES But how say you—? 575

SIMO What?

CHREMES How do you know that they are now at variance?

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SIMO

Iubeo Chremetem.

CHARINUS

O, te ipsum quaerebam.

SIMO

Et ego te.

CHARINUS

Optato advenis.

Aliquot me adiere ex te auditum qui aiebant hodie filiam

Meam nubere tuo gnato: id viso tune an illi insaniant.
535

SIMO

Ausculta paucis: et quid ego te velim et tu quod quaeris scies.

CHARINUS

Ausculto: loquere quid velis.

SIMO

Per te deos oro et nostram amicitiam Chreme

Quae incepta a parvis cum aetate accrevit simul,

Perque unicam gnatam tuam et gnatum meum,
540

Cuius tibi potestas summa servandi datur,

Ut me adiuves in hac re, atque ita ut nuptiae

Fuerant futurae fiant.

SIMO

Immo ita volo itaque postulo ut fiat Chreme:
550

Neque postulem abs te nisi ipsa res moneat.

CHARINUS

Quid est?

SIMO

Irae sunt inter Glycerium et gnatum.

CHARINUS

Audio.

SIMO

Ita magnae ut sperem posse avelli.

CHARINUS

Fabulae.

SIMO

Profecto sic est.

CHARINUS

Sic hercle ut dicam tibi:

Amantium irae amoris integratio est.
555

CHARINUS

Tibi ita hoc videtur: at ego non posse arbitror

Neque illum hanc perpetuo habere, neque me perpeti.

SIMO

Qui scis ergo istuc nisi periclum feceris?
565

CHARINUS

At istuc periclum in filia fieri grave est.

SIMO

Nempe incommoditas denique huc omnis redit:

Si eveniat quod Di prohibeant, discessio.

At si corrigitur, quot commoditates vide:

Principio amico filium restitueris;
570

Tibi generum firmum et filiae invenias virum.

CHARINUS

Quid istic? si ita istuc animum induxti esse utile,

Nolo tibi ullum commodum in me claudier.

SIMO

Merito te semper maximi feci Chreme.

CHARINUS

Sed quid ais?
575

SIMO

Quid?

CHARINUS

Qui scis eos nunc discordare inter se?

SIMO

Ipsus mihi Davus qui intimus est eorum consiliis dixit;

Et is mihi suadet nuptias quantum queam ut maturem.

Num censes faceret filium nisi sciret eadem haec velle?

Tute adeo iam eius verba audies. Heus evocate huc Davum.

Atque eccum: video ipsum foras exire.
580

SIMO

I greet you, Chremes.

CHREMES

O, you are the very person I was looking for.

SIMO

And I for you.

CHREMES

You meet me at a welcome moment. Some persons have been to me, to say that they had heard from you, that my daughter

was to be married to your son to-day; I’ve come to see whether they are out of their senses or you.
535

SIMO

Listen; in a few words you shall learn both what I want of you, and what you seek to know.

CHREMES

I am listening; say what you wish.

SIMO

Nay, so I intend, and so I wish it to be, Chremes; and I would not ask it of you, did not the occasion itself require it.
550

CHREMES

What is the matter?

SIMO

There is a quarrel between Glycerium and my son.

CHREMES

(ironically.)

I hear you.

SIMO

So munch so, that I’m in hopes they may be separated.

CHREMES

Nonsense!

SIMO

It really is so.

CHREMES

After this fashion, i’faith, I tell you,

the quarrels of lovers are the renewal of love.
555

CHREMES

So it appears to you; but I do not think ¹ that either he can possibly hold to her with constancy, or that I can put up with it if he does not.

SIMO

How then can you be sure of that, unless you make the experiment?
565

CHREMES

But for that experiment to be made upon a daughter is a serious thing—

CHREMES

What is one to say to all this? If you feel persuaded that this is beneficial, I don’t wish that any advantage should be denied you.

SIMO

With good reason, Chremes, have I always considered you a most valuable friend.

CHREMES

But how say you—?
575

SIMO

What?

CHREMES

How do you know that they are now at variance?