Aristotle Poetics 24.13

Thomas Twining (Translator)

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Among the many just claims of HOMER to our praise, this is one-that he is the only Poet who seems to have understood what part in his Poem it was proper for him to take himself.

Poetics. Aristotle. Thomas Twining (Translator). London, UK. 1789.

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Editions (4)
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) (Aristotle, Poetics. Immanuel Bekker, editor, Aristotelis Opera, volume 2. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1837.) — 24 focus
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) Perseus (Aristotle, De arte poetica liber. Rudolf Kassel, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1965. Reference edition for passage alignment.) — 24 focus
Poetics, Greek text (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's Greek text of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 24 focus
Poetics, Greek text (Franz Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's 1839 Greek edition, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 24 focus
Translations (13)
Poetics (W. H. Fyfe) (OCR draft) Perseus (William Hamilton Fyfe's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, Loeb Classical Library, 1939 printing.) — 24 focus
Arabic Poetics (Badawī edition, 1953) (OCR draft) (The ancient Arabic translation of Aristotle's Poetics in ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Badawī's 1953 edition.) — 24 focus
Poetics (S. H. Butcher, 1911) (OCR draft) Experimental (S. H. Butcher's English translation from Aristotle's Theory of Poetry and Fine Art, fourth edition, 1911.) — 24 focus
Aristotle on the Art of Poetry (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 24 focus
The Poetic of Aristotle (Henry James Pye, revised 1792) (OCR draft) Experimental (Henry James Pye's revised 1792 English translation, corrected against the 1788 first edition, aligned to the Kassel reference edition, and supplied with a selective apparatus of substantive 1788 readings.) — 24.13 focus
as we have before observed [H], pointing out that as the most proper. As Homer is admirable in many other things, so he is particularly excellent in being the only poet who was not ignorant how far he ought to act himself. The poet should appear himself as little as possible for whenever he speaks in his own person, he ceases to be an imitator. Other poets shew themselves through the whole poem and only imitate a few things and that seldom;
The Poetic of Aristotle (Theodore Alois Buckley) (OCR draft) Experimental (Theodore Alois Buckley's English translation, first published in 1850 and represented from the Henry G. Bohn 1857 printing; corrected against a second OCR and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 24.13 focus
Homer, indeed, deserves to be praised for many other things, and also because he is the only poet who was not ignorant what he ought to do himself. For it is requisite that the poet should speak in his own person as little as possible ; for so far as he does so he is not an imitator. Other poets, therefore, take an active part through the whole poem, and they only imitate a few things, and seldom7.
Poetica Latine conversa (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's Latin translation, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 24 focus
La poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) Experimental (André Dacier's French translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1692.) — 24.13 focus
Homere merite d'être loüé pour pluſieurs autres choſes, mais ſur tout, parce qu'il eſt le ſeul de tous les Poëtes, qui connoiſſe bien ce qu'il faut faire.
Poetica d'Aristotile (Bernardo Segni, 1549) (OCR draft) Experimental (Bernardo Segni's 1549 Florentine Italian translation, aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 24 focus
De poetica (Antonio Riccobono, 1587) (OCR draft) Experimental (Antonio Riccobono's Latin translation, first published in 1587; text represented from Immanuel Bekker's 1831 edition.) — 24 focus
De arte poetica liber (William of Moerbeke, ca. 1277) (OCR draft) Experimental (William of Moerbeke's medieval Latin translation, represented by the 1953 Aristoteles Latinus edition.) — 24 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition) (OCR draft) Experimental (The Arabic translation attributed to Abū Bishr Mattā, edited by Jaroslaus Tkatsch in 1928 and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 24 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition, unaligned) (OCR draft) Experimental (Tkatsch's edition of the medieval Arabic translation in its original, unaligned segmentation.) — 24 focus

Commentary

Commentary on the Poetics (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) (Ingram Bywater's English commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

13. mvp-aristotle-comment-927

Ὅμηρος. In 5, 1449 a and 6, 1449 b 26 the narrative form ( ἀπαγγελία) was noted as one of differences between the Epic and Tragedy; and it has been also assumed in this discussion on the Epic, in 23, 1459 a 17 . Aristotle now passes on to this, but without any formal introduction or hint as to the connexion in his statement. His aim apparently is to show that, although narrative is an element in every epic, it is reduced to a minimum in the best Epic, that of Homer; so that this point of difference is not so serious as might be supposed. The semi-dramatic character of Homer's mode of statement is directly or indirectly recognized in 3, 1448 a 21 , and in 4, 1448 b 37 (see note on the passage). In his reference to the practice of 'the other poets' ( οἱ μὲν οὖν ἄλλοι, 8) Aristotle must be supposed to mean 'not only the more recent epic writers, like Antimachus and Choerilus, but also the immediate continuators of Homer, the Cyclic poets' ( Bergk, Gr. Litt. 1 p. 830 ).

13. mvp-aristotle-comment-928

6 ὃ δεῖ ποιεῖν αὐτόν. αὐτόν is emphatic, as in Top. 8. 2, 157 a 29
πειρατέον ἐπὶ πάντων τῶν τοιούτων ὀνοματοποιεῖν αὐτόν
.— Pol. 8. 5, 1339 b 42
ταῦτα γὰρ τί δεῖ μανθάνειν αὐτούς ;

Remarques sur la poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (André Dacier's French commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

20. mvp-aristotle-comment-576

24.13 20. Homere merite d'être loüé pour pluſieurs chofes, mais ſur tout, parce qu'il est le feul de tous les Poetes qui connoiſſe bien ce qu'il faut faire le Poete doit peu parler luy-même, car ce n'est pas en cela qu'il est imitateur.] 1

21. mvp-aristotle-comment-577

24.13 21. Tous les autres Poetes n'imitent que rarement, & ne pouſſent pas loin leur imitation.] 2

Commentarius in Aristotelis Poeticam (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) (Ritter's Latin commentary, extracted from the 1839 volume, divided by Ritter's chapters and sections, and linked to the corresponding Perseus reference subsections.) focus

7. mvp-aristotle-comment-179

Ritter, cap. 24 § 7

Ὅμηρος δὲ κτλ. nova Homeri laus eo continetur, quod ipse pauca narrando exsequitur sed alios plerumque narrantes et dicentes inducit. conf. c. 4, 9. οὐκ ἀγνοεῖ ὃ δεῖ ποιεῖν αὐτὸν : quid sit ποιεῖν αὐτὸς (perse enim ambiguum est), continuo declaratur adiectis αὐτὸν γὰρ δεῖ τὸν ποιητὴν ἐλάχιστα λέγειν. in his ὁ ποιητής est is de quo agitur, h. e. poeta epicus. οἱ μὲν οὖν ἄλλοι κτλ. vituperantur illi poetae quos indicavimus ad c. 23, 3. p. 246. ἀλλ᾽ ἔχοντα ἤθη: debuit ἀλλ᾽ ἔχον ἦθος, ut Aldus scripsit refragantibus codicibus, quamquam vel hoc tolerari vix potest post καὶ οὐδὲν ἀηθές. istud ἀλλ᾽ ἔχοντα ἤθη nihil est nisi vitiosa periphrasis commatis praecedentis καὶ οὐδὲν ἀηθές.