Aristotle Poetics 25.20

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or to excellence of character or as being agreeable to received opinion. For as to the chief end of poetry, it is better to chuse probable impossibility, than improbable possibility. And (T) as to excellence of character, it may be proper as in the paintings of Zeuxis, to give examples of perfection. And as to the seeming absurdities that are received from common opinion, they may not, perhaps, be contrary to reason;

Poetics. Aristotle. ed. Henry James Pye. London. 1792.

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5. To AMBIGUITY; as in παρωχηκεν δε ΠΛΕΩΝ νυξ 1 where the word ΠΛΕΩΝ is ambiguous.
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as,
τῇ ῥ᾽ ἔσχετο χάλκεον ἔγχος
There stuck the lance20 :
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On ſauve auſſi beaucoup d'endroits par une differente ponctuation, & c'eſt ce qui a juſtifié Empedocle, qu'on avoit accuſé de s'être contredit dans les vers, où il expliquoit les principes des choſes.
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20. mvp-aristotle-comment-1023

τὰ δὲ ἀμφιβολίᾳ, scil. δεῖ διαλύειν. Aristotle now passes on to another kind of ambiguous statement, one capable of two interpretations through the presence of an ambiguous term. Such a term is said to be ἀμφίβολον ( a26; comp. Rhet. 3. 5, 1407 a 32 ); and its effect is ἀμφιβολία. ἀμφιβολία is here the same thing as what Aristotle often calls elsewhere ὁμωνυμία. It may be noted, as an instance of his variations in the use of technical language, that in Soph. el. 4, 165 b26
ἀμφιβολία
is distinguished from ὁμωνυμία, and used to describe the ambiguity arising from some ambiguous collocation of terms.

20. mvp-aristotle-comment-1024

παρώχηκεν δὲ πλέω νύξ: Il. 10. 251
ἀλλ᾽ ἴομεν μάλα γὰρ νὺξ ἄνεται, ἐγγύθι δ᾽ ἠώς, ἄστρα δὲ δὴ προβέβηκε, παρῴχωκεν δὲ πλέων νὺξ τῶν δύο μοιράων, τριτάτη δ᾽ ἔτι μοῖρα λέλειπται.
The reading πλέω, which still survives in some of the MSS. of Homer, and was a recognized variant in antiquity, has a certain interest as showing the affinity of Aristotle's Homer with that of Zenodotus, who is known to have admitted forms like ἀμείνω for ἀμείνων, γλυκίω for γλυκίων, and κρείσσω for κρείσσων ( La Roche, Hom. Textkr. p. 302 ; Lobeck, Path. Elem. 2 p. 281 ). The problem was to explain how, if more than two-thirds of the night had gone, a third could be still left. According to Porphyry ad loc. (p. 147 Schr.) this was one of the earliest difficulties found in Homer :
τῶν παλαιῶν ζητημάτων ὡμολόγηται εἶναι τὸ τοιοῦτο, ἐν οἷς φησιν “ ἄστρα ... λέλειπται”. πῶς γάρ, εἰ αἱ δύο μοῖραι ἐξήκουσιν αὐταί τε καὶ ἔτι τούτων πλέον, ἡ τριτάτη μοῖρα λέλειπται, ἀλλ᾽ οὐχὶ τῆς τρίτης μόριον ;
Among the many solutions he mentions is one from the Aristotelian Ἀπορήματα Ομηρικά ( fr. 161 Teubn. ),
ἐπεὶ οὖν καὶ τῆς νυκτὸς αἱ δώδεκα μοῖραι εἰς δύο ἴσας μερίδας μερίζεσθαι δύνανται, 341 εἰς ἕξ, ηὐξήθη δὲ καὶ πλέον γεγονὸς θάτερον μέρος, ἄδηλον δὲ τὸ πόσαις ὥραις (καὶ γὰρ μιᾷ καὶ δύο καὶ τρισὶ καὶ πλείοσιν ἡ αὔξησις δύναται γίνεσθαι)· ἀφορίζων ὁ ποιητὴς τὸ ἀόριστον τοῦ πλείονος πόσον ἦν καὶ ὅτι β ὥραις ηὐξήθη, ἐπήγαγεν ὅτι τριτάτη μοῖρα λέλειπται, ὡς ὀκτὼ μὲν γενέσθαι τὰς παρωχηκυίας ὥρας, καταλείπεσθαι δὲ τέσσαρας, αἵπερ εἰσὶ τοῦ ὅλου τρίτον.
This highly artificial interpretation, which makes πλέω νὺξ τῶν δύο μοιράων mean 'the greater part of two-thirds of the night', can hardly be what Aristotle has in mind, as he distinctly says that the solution of the difficulty may be found in recognizing πλέω as an amphibolous word, i. e. in giving it not its usual sense of 'more', but some different sense. This other sense was probably that of 'full', which is mentioned by Porphyry ad loc. (p. 147) as the suggestion of a certain Metrodorus :
Μητρόδωρος μὲν οὖν τὸ πλεῖον δύο σημαίνειν φησὶ παρ Ὁμήρῳ· καὶ γὰρ τὸ σύνηθες καὶ τὸ πλῆρες, ὡς ἐν τῷ σὸν δὲ πλεῖον δέπας αἰεὶ ἔστηκε, καὶ ἐν τῷ πλεῖαί τοι χαλκοῦ κλισίαι. νῦν οὖν τὸ πλέον ἀντὶ τοῦ πλῆρες εἰρῆσθαι· πλήρης γὰρ ἡ νὺξ τῶν δύο μοιρῶν γεγονυῖα παρώχηκε, τριτάτη δ᾽ ἔτι περιλέλειπται.
Aristonicus seems to have accepted this interpretation of πλέω ἀντὶ τοῦ πλήρης ( Schol. Ven. A. Il. 9. 71 ); and it survives also in the gloss of Hesychius πλέω· πλήρης.
1461a27

Remarques sur la poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (André Dacier's French commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

36. mvp-aristotle-comment-632

25.20 36. On fauve auſſi beaucoup d'endroits par une differente ponctuation, & c'est ce qui a juſtifié Empedocle qu'on avoit accuſe de s'être contredit dans les vers où il expliquoit les principes des choſes.] 1

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247. mvp-aristotle-comment-247

NOTE 247.

25.20 P. 128. TO AMBIGUITY—.
Ἀμφιβολία.
i. e. such ambiguity, as does not depend on the different senses of single words, (which Aristotle calls
ὁμωνυμία
,) but on the different senses, of which two or more words are capable, independently of their punctuation. See, De Soph. Elench. I. cap. iv. which clears up his distinctions, between
διαίρεσις, ἀμφιβολία, ὁμωνυμία
, &c.

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13. mvp-aristotle-comment-196

Ritter, cap. 25 § 13

τὰ δὲ ἀμφιβολίᾳ, “ παρῴχηκεν δὲ πλέων νύξ”: alias quaestiones sive difficultates advocato ambiguitatis auxilio solvere licet. quod exempli gratia subiicitur id sine ulla particula et vinculo solutum accedit. respicitur Iliadis locus K. 252. ἄστρα δὲ δὴ προβέβηκε, παρώχηκεν δὲ πλέων νύξ, τῶν δύο μοιράων, τριτάτη δ᾽ ἔτι μοῖρα λέλειπται. in hoc loco sane haud difficili cum coniungerent nonnulli παρώχηκεν δὲ πλέων (vel πλέον) νύξ τῶν δύο μοιράων, et δύο quamvis dicendi usu Homerico repugnante pro genitivo acciperent, anquirebant quomodo poeta primo loco plus duabus noctis partibus praeterisse et continuo tertiam superesse dicere potuerit. copiose quid in his versibus haeserint et quomodo difficilia solverint exposuit Porphyrius in Schol. ad Il. 1. c. pag. 284 b 42., unde nonnulla inter mea recipiam. πῶς γάρ, εἰ αἱ δύο μοῖραι ἐξήκουσιν αὐταί τε καὶ ἔτι τούτων πλέον, ἡ τριτάτη μοῖρα λέλειπται, ἀλλ' οὐχὶ τῆς τρίτης μόριον; Pseudo-Aristoteles et ipse iunxit παρώχηκεν δὲ πλέων νύξ τῶν δύο μοιράων, sed ambigua vocis πλέων significatione advocata totam noctem in duas partes a poeta divisam cogitari ponit, quarum partium amplior alterius duplum sit. hanc eandem solutionem Porphyrius 1. c. p. 285 b 6. copiose et putide exsecutus est ex Aristotelis (ita ipse credidit) Problematis Homericis in hunc modum : Αριστοτέλης δὲ οὗτως ἀξιοῦ λύειν, ἐν οἷς φησίν· ἡ εἰς β΄ διαίρεσις εἰς ἴσην δύναται γενέσθαι ἐν τούτοις, ἐπειδὴ τὸ πλέον τοῦ ἡμίσεος ἀὁριστόν ἐστιν. ὅταν τοσοῦτον αὐξηθῇ ὡς τοῦ ὅλου τρίτον ἀπολείπεσθαι, ἀκριβῶς ἂν εἴη τὸ ἀφορίσαι τοῦτο καὶ δηλῶ- 11) alii αἶψα δὲ θνητὰ φύοντο cet.. σαι ὅσον ἐστὶ τὸ καταλειφθέν, ἵνα ὅσον ηυξήθη τοῦ ὅλου τὸ ἥμισυ δῆλον γένηται. κτλ.