Aristotle Poetics 16.7

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But of all modes of discovery that is the best which is derived from the incidents themselves, the surprize arising from probable means; as in the Edipus of Sophocles and the tragedy of Iphigenia, where it is probable she should be desirous of sending a letter. These alone depend on themselves, without the aid of fictitious tokens and jewels. And next to these, are those effected by reasoning. < will shew him the bow of Ulysses, mixed with other bows, he shall know it.

Poetics. Aristotle. ed. Henry James Pye. London. 1792.

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Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) (Aristotle, Poetics. Immanuel Bekker, editor, Aristotelis Opera, volume 2. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1837.) — 16 focus
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Poetics (W. H. Fyfe) (OCR draft) Perseus (William Hamilton Fyfe's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, Loeb Classical Library, 1939 printing.) — 16 focus
Arabic Poetics (Badawī edition, 1953) (OCR draft) (The ancient Arabic translation of Aristotle's Poetics in ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Badawī's 1953 edition.) — 16 focus
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Another instance, is the discovery by the sound of the shuttle in the Tereus of SOPHOCLES.
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Thus, too; in the "Tereus" of Sophocles, the " voice of the shuttle" [produced a recognition7]. 1 But the third mode of discovery is through memory, from the sensible perception of something by sight, as in the " Cyprii " of Dicaeogenes;
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La voix que Sophocle a donnée à une Navete dans ſon Terée eſt de la même nature.
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7. mvp-aristotle-comment-580

35 διό τι ἐγγὺς. Vahlen restores διὸ ἐγγύς τι, which is no doubt the more usual order when τι is connected with an adverb. But there are certainly some instances of the order in the text, e. g. Thuc. 7. 57. 1
οὐ κατὰ δίκην τι μᾶλλον
. — Xen. Hiero 1. 21
οὖν ὁρᾷς τι τοὺς τυράννους ἥδιον ... ἰόντας;
— Cyr. 1. 6. 11
οἴει τι, ἔφη, ἧττον τοῦτο εἶναι αἰσχρόν ;
— Plato Prot. 327 B
οἴει ἂν τι, ἔφη, μᾶλλον κτέ.

7. mvp-aristotle-comment-581

Τηρεῖ: Nauck, TGF. p. 257 .

7. mvp-aristotle-comment-582

37 ἡ τῆς κερκίδος φωνή, the actual expression of Sophocles (as it would seem) is to be compared with the Euripidean ἱστότονα πηνίσματα, κερκίδος ἀοιδοῦ μελέτας in Aristophanes Ran. 1315 where the allusion is to the humming-sound of the shuttle in its passage to and fro (comp. Dict. of Antiq. 2 p. 767 ). In κερκίδος φωνή, however, there is a suggestion that the shuttle told Philomela's story for her; comp. Achilles Tatius 5. 5
ἡ γὰρ Φιλομήλας τέχνη σιωπῶσαν εὕρηκε φωνήν· ὑφαίνει γὰρ πέπλον καὶ πρὸς αὐτὴν [scil. Πρόκνην] πέπονθε τῇ κερκίδι λαλεῖ
. In Aristotle's view a disclosure by such means as these is quite as inartistic as that of Orestes in the Iphigenia (800).
1455a1
1455a

Remarques sur la poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (André Dacier's French commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

13. mvp-aristotle-comment-401

16.7 La voix que Sophocle a donnée à une Navette dans ſon Terée eſt de la même nature.] 1

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127. mvp-aristotle-comment-127

NOTE 127. P. 96.

16.7 THE DISCOVERY BY THE SOUND OF THE SHUTTLE,
Ἡ της κερκιδος φωνη
— Dacier, after some other commentators, makes a speaking shuttle of this; and wonders, as, indeed, he well might, that the great critic should let so monstrous an absurdity pass without a severer censure than that of its wanting art. Others understand, much more reasonably, not the literal, but the metaphorical, voice of the shuttle, in the epistolary web by which Philomela is said to have conveyed to her sister the dismal tale of her sufferings, —
ἱστῳ ποικίλμασι ΣΤΟΜΑΤΙ χρησαμένη
, in the language of that most curious of all Poets, John Tzetzes. 1 But as this seems to have been the current traditional story, I do not see how it could be adduced as a circumstance invented at pleasure by the Poet. I should rather suppose, that the discovery in question, whatever it might be, was effected by the sound of the shuttle, which Aristotle calls,
φωνη
, voice, not, probably, in his own language, but in the poetical language of the Tragedy itself to which he alludes. For these
κερκιδες
, it seems, were a very vocal sort of things, nothing like the shuttles of "these degenerate days." Every one recollects the
"arguto pectine"
of Virgil. But this is nothing to the amplification of some Greek epigrammatists, who scruple not to compare them to swallows, and even to nightingales;
Κερκίδας ὀρθρολαλοισι ΧΕΛΙΔΟΣΙΝ εικελοφωνους
— And,
Κερκίδα δ' εὐποἰητον ΑΗΔΟΝΑ
— . 2 Hence the ridiculous fancy of Joseph Scaliger, that the metamorphosis of Procne into a swallow was exhibited in the Tereus of Sophocles, and that a shuttle was made use of, instead of a whistle or bird-pipe, to imitate the swallow's voice!

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4. mvp-aristotle-comment-113

Ritter, cap. 16 § 4

δεύτεραι δὲ - διὸ ἄτεχνοι: hoc manifestum alienae manus vestigium, quod secundum genus est eiusmodi, ut idem primum et tertium et quartum esse possit: poetae enim cuiusvis generis agnitiones excogitare licet. sed hic noster suo arbitrio pronuntiavit agnitiones a poeta inventas ob eam ipsam causam rudes esse, cum tamen et optimas et pessimas invenire possit. tarde succedit et hiante iunctura διὸ ἄτεχνοι. quae sequuntur, merae nugae sunt. οἷον Ὀρέστης ἐν τῇ Ἰφιγενείᾳ ἀνεγνώρισεν ὅτι Ὀρέστης: talem hunc locum exhibent AcBcNa et M omnes et GLPQ, quos cur deseramus iusta causa deest. technicus noster ἀνεγνώρισεν ὅτι Ὀρέστης nove dixit pro manifestum fecit se esse Orestem, dativum Ἰφιγενείᾳ lectori supplendum relinquens, sinistre sane utrumque, sed idem in admittendis ellipsibus omnem modum egredi solet. respexit Iphigeniae Euripideae Tauricensis v. 811-826. sed vide quomodo editores antiqui huic loco succurrere conati sint, siquidem legunt οἷον Ὀρέστης ἐν τῇ Ἰφιγενείᾳ ἀνεγνώρισε τὴν ἀδελφήν, ἀναγνωρισθεὶς ὑπ᾽ ἐκείνης ὅτι 1) Ὀρέστης, sed eo additamento nihil proficiunt novi interpolatores nisi ut veteri turpem errorem iniungant: nam apud Euripidem Orestes sororem non agnoscit postquam ipse ab ea iam agnitus est, sed prior sacerdotem illam sororem Iphigeniam esse intelligit ac tum demum sese illi agnoscendum praebet. lege v. 759-792 et 811-826. ἐκείνη μὲν γὰρ διὰ τῆς ἐπιστολῆς, ἐκεῖνος δὲ αὐτὸς λέγει ἃ βούλεται ὁ ποιητής, ἀλλ' οὐχ ὁ μῦθος: haec scriptura est codicum AcBeNa et M omnium et GLPQ, cui haec subiecta est sententia, Iphigeniam per epistolam sese notam Oresti fecisse (verbum ἀνεγνώρισε novo significatu praeditum ex prioribus assumendum est), Orestem vero ipsum protulisse (scilicet ut soror illum fratrem esse intelligeret) quae poeta suggesserit, non quae fabula sive fabulosa 2) historia. posteriorem agnoscendi modum tamquam ab arte alienum notat, priorem paulo post (§. 8) laudat. verum enim vero difficultatibus vix expediendis hunc locum implicuit quod Victorius in uno codice se dicit legisse, acceptum illud ab editoribus tantum non omnibus, ἐκεῖνος δὲ διὰ σημείων. ταῦτα οὖν αὐτὸς λέγει – ὁ μῦθος. sed auctor hic noster σημεῖα dixit signa quae ipsis agentium oculis aut corpori cuiusdam personae inhaerescentia aut extra corpus conspicua visuntur, nisi forte illum sibi omnino non constitisse statuere volumus. iam si illa, quae Orestes fratrem se esse probaturus sorori narrat de telis ab ipsa pertextis et in paterna domo asservatis, σημεῖα dixis- 1) Nonnulli ex editoribus haec probantibus verba ὅτι Ὀρέστης expungunt, sed hi eodem in loco quaedam ex coniectura Italorum interpolatorum adsciscunt, quaedam a codicibus oblata negligunt. 2) μύθον h. 1. non argumentum tragoediae sive τῶν πραγμάτων σύστασιν intelligi sed fabulosam narrationem, tam ex illis αἱ πεποιημέναι ὑπὸ τοῦ ποιητοῦ quam ex altero exemplo liquet.set, etiam haec agnitio διὰ σημείων facta et in primo genere, non in secundo, reponenda esset. praeterea quae statim sequuntur huic lectioni plane adversa sunt. διότι ἐγγὺς τῆς εἰρημένης ἁμαρτίας - ἐστίν· ἐξῆν γὰρ ἂν ἔνια καὶ ἐνεγκεῖν: dictum vitium est si quis agentium signis conspicuis ad fidem faciendam utitur. prope ab hoc vitio abest Orestes ille Euripideus, cum quae res sorori suae in paternis aedibus cordi sint exponit: quippe poeta non multum aberat quin Orestem signis nonnullis conspicuum eaque Iphigeniae ostendentem inducere auderet. hoc est illud ἐξῆν γὰρ ἂν ἔνια καὶ ἐνεγκεῖν ( τὸν Ὀρέστην). arguta disputatio et obscura. καὶ ἐν τῷ Σοφοκλέους Τηρεῖ ἡ “ τῆς κερκίδος φωνή”: ecce alterum doctrinae specimen mire et γραμματικῶς prolatum, non ut sententia illustretur, quod factum iam est, sed ut eruditionis thesauri magis etiam recluderentur. loci perobscuri sensum acute explanavit Tyrwhittus. nimirum κερκίδος φωνή ex ipsa Sophoclis tragoedia sumpta tela illa est vel potius radius textorius, cuius ope Philomela Procnae sorori declaravit, quae ipsa ab eius coniuge Tereo indigna perpessa sit, cum lingua excisa loqui non posset. vid. Ovid. Metamorph. VI, 424 sqq. Hygin. Fab. 45. eandem telam Procna alloquitur in Attii Tereo apud Nonium p. 96, 27. o suavem linguae sonitum, o dulcitas conspirantis animae. vid. Welckeri Trilogia Aeschyl. p. 503. sed in co Tyrwhitto non assentior, quod ille κερκίδα pro tela accipiendam esse dicit: immo κερκὶς nunquam tela est, sed audaci metaphora usus Sophocles posuit κερκίδος φωνὴν (der Spule Stimme), quoniam Philomela radii textorii auxilio in tela eas notas intexuit, quibus Procna infelicem sororis sortem agnovit. sed unde hic noster tam accurate rescivit hoc a Sophocle excogitatum, non autem fama traditum esse ? credo hunc technicum illam fabulam a Sophocle aliter et ingeniosius tractatam repperisse, quam in fabularum cyclo perscriptam vel ab aliis poetis conformatam eandem legisset. item iste non multo ante epistolam illam IphigeniaeEuripideae (759-792) fabulosae historiae ( τῷ μύθῳ) tribuit, sed illa quae Orestes v. 811-826. expromit, ab Euripide inventa esse dicit: quippe de epistola illa etiam aliunde aliquid inaudiverat, sed quae Orestes dum se sorori agnoscendum praebet profert, ea apud unum Euripidem invenerat. sed quid tandem in agnitione Sophoclia illa reprehendendum sit tamquam ἄτεχνον, alii viderint: ego illud technico dicendum relinquo, quem ad dubitationem meam sic fere respondentem audio ἔστι γὰρ πεποιημένη, διὸ ἄτεχνος.