Aristotle Poetics 22.9

Theodore Alois Buckley (Translator)

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J For it would produce the same effect, to make an improper and ridiculous use of metaphors, foreign words, and other 1 forms of diction. But how great a difference is made by the appropriate use of them, may be seen in epic poetry, by putting the words in metre. And he who transfers proper names into foreign words, into metaphors, and the other forms, will see that what we have said is true.

Poetics. Aristotle. Theodore Alois Buckley (Translator). London. 1857.

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It is without reason, therefore, that some critics have censured these modes of speech, and ridiculed the Poet 1 for the use of them; as old Euclid 2 did, objecting, that "versification would be an easy business, if it were permitted to lengthen words at pleasure:" and then giving a burlesque example of that sort of diction: as, * * * 3
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and other forms of that sort, would have the same effect; and yet we may see how advantageous a proper use of them is in epic poetry, by first putting the words in verse
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C'eſt pourquoy ceux qui condamnent cette forte d'expreſſion, & qui blâment Homere de s'en être ſervi, le font ſans raiſon, comme l'ancien Euclide, qui ſoûtient qu'il n'y a rien de plus aiſé, que d'être Poëte, ſi l'on a la liberté d'alonger les mots à ſa fantaiſie, & qui ſe moque de ce Poëte en ſuivant cette mème methode dans ſes vers.
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35 ὥστε οὐκ ὀρθῶς ψέγουσιν κτέ. In this long digression, which extends to ἐκεῖνος δὲ τοῦτο ἠγνόει in 1459a 4, Aristotle insists on the literary value and effect of the various poetical forms of expression, and defends their use by the poets. He first answers the critics of the epic (b 7–31), and then those of the tragic diction (b 31–1459a 4).
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b 7

9. mvp-aristotle-comment-821

τὸν ποιητήν, the poet, whoever he may be. It is evident, however, that Aristotle is mainly concerned with Homer (comp. Bon. Ind. 609b 57 ); the licences he considers are all epic licences; and the instances quoted in b 9–10 were presumably meant to caricature the Homeric hexameter. It was generally admitted that Homer was ready enough metri gratia to take great liberties with language (see Ludwich, Aristarchs Homerische Textkritik 2 p. 127 ; Schulze, Qu. epicae p. 3 ). Throughout this chapter Aristotle is thinking quite as much of the epic poet as of the tragedian, though his theory of the Epic is still to come (in 23–24).

9. mvp-aristotle-comment-822

Εὐκλείδης ὁ ἀρχαῖος. Nothing further is known of him. As a surmise, which must be taken for what it is worth, I would suggest that he may possibly be the Euclid who was Archon in the year 403, when the reformed alphabet was officially adopted at Athens. At that moment considerable attention seems to have been devoted to questions of phonetics (see on 20, 1456 b 31 ); and the anomalies and licences of Homeric metre may very well have been one of the facts to which the reforming party pointed in proof of the need of a fuller alphabet.

9. mvp-aristotle-comment-823

ὡς ῥᾳδιον ποιεῖν = ὡς ῥᾳδιον ὂν ποιεῖν. For the omission of ὄν see Goodwin, Syntax of Greek Moods and Tenses § 75. 1 .

9. mvp-aristotle-comment-824

b 8 ἐκτείνειν. From the definition of the ἐπεκτεταμένον ὄνομα in 21, 1457b 35 it is clear that Aristotle is referring not only to the lengthening of a short vowel but also to the insertion of an extra syllable in a word.

9. mvp-aristotle-comment-825

b 9 ἰαμβοποιήσας ἐν αὐτῇ τῇ λέξει. The sense of these words and their connexion with the lines which follow have been a difficulty with the interpreters from the days of Victorius, who gives up the passage in despair. Goulston renders them by 'qui etiam in ipsa oratione soluta iambica confecit'; Tyrwhitt by 'in ipsa oratione soluta cavillo facto'; M. Schmidt by 'ihr Verfahren in seinem eignen Ausdruck persiflirte'; Ueberweg by 'er legt den Spott in die Redeform selbst (durch Sylbenverlängerung) hinein'. Vahlen’s interpretation (which is practically the same as Tyrwhitt’s) is 'iambum sive carmen probrosum et cavillatorium faciens mero sermone pedestri (in purer prosa)'. It is not so easy to see how ἐν αὐτῇ τῇ λέξει can mean the same thing as ἐν ψιλῇ λέξει; nor is ἰαμβοποιήσας quite the same thing as ἴαμβον ποιήσας. Perhaps the simplest solution of the difficulty is to transpose ἰαμβοποιήσας, placing it after ἐν αὐτῇ τῇ λέξει, and then take the two lines of parody which follow as its object. ἰαμβοποιεῖν τι may very well mean to 'write, or say, something as an ἰαμβοποιός (i. e. as a caricaturist), just in the same way as δραματοποιεῖν τι means to 'describe as a δραματοποιός (48 b 37), and λογοποιεῖν τι to describe as a λογοποιός.

9. mvp-aristotle-comment-826

Ἐπιχάρην κτέ. This and the next quotation are given as specimens of prose which by a liberal use of epic licences may be made to read as verse. By the artifice of lengthening two short syllables Ἐπιχάρην εἶδον κτέ. becomes an hexameter—the lengthening required with Ἐπιχάρην being like that in ἐπίτονος in Od. 12. 423.
βαδίζειν
, it may be observed, is not an epic word. How the second instance was to be read as a verse is not equally clear, the text here being obviously corrupt. If we may suppose ἐλλέβορον to be a scribal error for ἐλλεβόρου, the parodist may have proposed to read this as ἐλλεβόροιο.

9. mvp-aristotle-comment-827

Μαραθῶνάδε. The accentuation in A c ( Μαραθῶνα δὲ) is in accordance with the rule of Apollonius and Herodian ( La Roche, Homerische Textkritik p. 221 ).
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22.9 8. C'est pourquoy ceux qui condamnent cette forte d'expreſſion, & qui blament Homere de s'en étre ſervi, le font ſans raiſon, comme l'ancien Euclide.] 1

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22.9 9. En ſuivant cette mème methode dans ſes vers.] 2

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NOTE 199. P. 111.

22.9 AS OLD EUCLID DID, OBJECTING, &C.Fontenelle talks in the same way.
"Du tems d'Homere c'étoit une grande merveille qu'un homme pût aſſujettir ſon diſcours à des meſures, à des fillabes longues et breves, & faire en même tems quelque choſe de raiſonnable. On donnoit donc aux Poetes des licences infinies, & on ſe tenoit encore trop heureux d'avoir des vers. Homère pouvoit parler dans un ſeul vers cinq langues differentes; prendre le dialecte Dorique quand l'Ionique ne l'accommodoit pas; au defaut de tous les deux, prendre l'Attique, l'Eolique, ou le commun; c'est-à-dire, parler en même tems, Picard, Gascon, Normand, Breton, & François commun. Il pouvoit allonger un mot s'il étoit trop court, l'accourcir s'il étoit trop long; personne n'y trouvoit à redire."
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But, could this ingenious and sensible writer seriously suppose, that the language of Homer's poems had at all the same effect to a hearer, or reader, of his time, that an English poem would now have, if composed of all the provincial dialects of Great Britain? —We are always told, how Homer enriched his language by "visiting all the principal nations of Greece, and learning the peculiarities of their speech." 2 Just as if an English poet, because he had resided some time in Yorkshire, or Lancashire, might, in his next poem, put neet for night, loise for lose, or a balliblash, a very well-sounding Lancashire word, for a blaze.
This account makes the language of Homer no other than the
kainisma
which Quintilian reprobates, among the
vitia orationis
: 3 something worse than the "Babylonish dialect" of Hudibras;
"a party-colour'd dress / Of patch'd and piebald languages. / It had an odd promiscuous tone, / As if he'd talk'd three parts in one Which made some think, when he did gabble, / They had heard three labourers of Babel; / Or Cerberus himself pronounce / A leash of languages at once."
With such an idea of Homer's language, Fontenelle might well add—
"Cette étrange confusion de langues, cet assemblage bisarre de mots tout défigurés, etoit la langue des dieux; du moins il est bien ſûr que ce n'etoit pas celle des hommes."
—And, indeed, I firmly believe with Lord Monboddo, that "fuch a mongrel dialect was never written by any man;" and that "Homer wrote, either the language that was ſpoken in the country where he was born and educated, or that was used by the poets that had written before him, and was the eſtabliſhed language of Poetry." 4

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NOTE 200. P. 111.

22.9 AND THEN GIVING A BURLESQUE EXAMPLE OF THAT SORT OF DICTION.
Ιαμβοποιησας ἐν ἀυτη τη λεξει.
— Two senses have been given to the word
ἰαμβοποιησας
; both of them, I think, far from satisfactory. Some render it—making Iambic verses:
"Iambis usus est."
[Vict.] But, is it likely, that Euclid, meaning to ridicule Homer's hexameters, should do it in Iambic verse?—Besides that the lines themselves, such as we find them, have not the least air of Iambics, but fall easily enough, with a little help, into hexameters. In this I perfectly agree with Dacier; though I see no reason to suppose with him, that Euclid had composed—
"un ouvrage en vers heroiques."
Others, and Madius in particular, understand the word to mean, satirizing, ridiculing, the Poet; —
"ſe moque de lui."
[Dac.] A meaning that, undoubtedly, suits the passage better; whether it suits the word itself I much doubt, but will not venture to decide. As Aristotle uses
ἰαμβοποιος
, 5 in the sense of a satiric Poet—a maker of the
ἰαμβος
, or satiric poem, he may possibly have used the verb,
Ιαμβοποιειν
, here, in the correspondent sense of making a satire upon, or burlesquing:—
ἰαμβοποἰησας ἐν ἀυτη τη λεξει
—having ridiculed him "in that fort of diction," in the following manner, &c.
As this sense appears to me, on the whole, far more eligible than the other, I have followed it: for I see no third sense that can, with any shew of probability, be extracted from the present text. But that it is defective, and that
ἰαμβοποιησας
is an error, I have very little doubt. If conjecture might be indulged, I should be inclined to suppose, that what Aristotle had said was this; "that it is an easy matter to versify, even in common speech, (
ἐν αυτη τη λεξει
,) 6 if one may be allowed to extend syllables and words at pleasure, so as to convert, for instance, an Iambic foot, which is continually occurring in common conversation, into an Heroic or Spondee." And the examples that follow, were probably two prose sentences so converted, or convertible, into hexameters. But as to the manner in which Aristotle had expressed this in the text, I have no conjecture to offer that is satisfactory, even to myself. Of the mangled lines which follow, with their perplexing variety of indeterminable readings, I shall say with Victorius,
"veritate deſperatâ, nihil amplius curæ de hac re fufcipere volui."
It is some comfort however, as M. Batteux has observed, that both the objection of Euclid, and Aristotle's answer, are clear enough, independently of the examples.
I ought to mention, that Castelvetro has explained this passage, without supposing the text wrong, in a manner different from any other interpreter, and which, in part, accords with my idea. By
ἰαμβοποιειν
he understands neither satirizing, nor making Iambic verses; but, making Iambic feet instead of spondees, in hexameter verse. And the sense he gives the whole passage is this: "It would be a very easy thing to write heroic verse, if this liberty of extension were allowed; for then, a Poet might put Iambic feet in the room of Spondees, and commit no fault, because the short syllables might be lengthened at pleasure." And the lines that follow he supposes to be examples of such defective hexameters.
There is somewhat ingenious in this explanation, as there is in many others of this acute writer: but it has likewise the fault, which many of his explanations have; that of being by no means reconcileable with the original.—See his comment. p. 481.

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Ritter, cap. 22 § 5

οἷον Εὐκλείδης ὁ ἀρχαῖος: quis sit incertum est; eius versus scriptorem parodiarum sapiunt. αὐτῇ λέξει, h. e. ipsa dictione ita conformata, ut eius reprehensioni responderet. - ἤτοι ῎Αρην: codices ἠτίχαριν, utrumque vitium ex itacismo natum est, si vere emendavi. Hermannus scripsit ἤτοι Χάριν, Graefenhanius ἢ τάχ' " Αρην. ἐπέκτασις in hoc versu admissa vitiosa illa est pronuntiatio βαδδίζοντα. καὶ “ οὐκ ἄν γ' ἐράμενος τὸν ἐκείνου ἐλλέβορον:” versus sic dispositos puto fuisse - νν ἐλλέβορον νυ οὐκ ἄν γ' ἐράμενος τὸν ἐκείνου ... ἔκτασιν vitiose admissam coniicio in prima syllaba verbi ἐράμενος ( ἐρράμενος). hoc ipsum cum infinitivo quodam, unde aptus fuerit accusativus τὸν ἐλλέβορον, iunctum fuisse coniicio, ut apud Sophocl. Oed. Col. 512. ὅμως δ᾽ ἔραμαι πυθέσθαι, nisi scribere mavis τοῦ ἐκείνου ἐλλεβόρου, quod per versum licet. particularum av et y' coniunctio in exemplo vitiosae locutionis offendere non debet.