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VII

South Wind

West Wind

South Wind

Zephyr, is it true about Zeus and the heifer that Hermes is convoying across the sea to Egypt?—that he fell in love with it?

West Wind

Certainly. She was not a heifer then, though, but a daughter of the river Inachus. Hera made her what she is now; Zeus was so deep in love that Hera was jealous.

South Wind

And is he still in love, now that she is a cow?

West Wind

Oh, yes; that is why he has sent her to Egypt, and told us not to stir up the sea till she has swum across; she is to be delivered there of her child, and both of them are to be Gods.

South Wind

The heifer a God?

West Wind

Yes, I tell you. And Hermes said she was to be the patroness of sailors and our mistress, and send out or confine any of us that she chooses,

South Wind

So we must regard ourselves as her servants at once?

West Wind

Why, yes; she will be the kinder if we do. Ah, she has got across and landed. Do you see? she does not go on four legs now; Hermes has made her stand erect, and turned her back into a beautiful woman.

South Wind

This is most remarkable, Zephyr; no horns, no tail, no cloven hoofs; instead, a lovely maid. But what is the matter with Hermes? he has changed his handsome face into a dog’s.

West Wind

We had better not meddle; he knows his own business best.

Henry Watson Fowler

Dialogi Marini. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

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Dialogues of the Sea-gods: (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 1. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

Editions (2)

Ἐνάλιοι Διάλογοι Perseus (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 1. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1909.) — 7 focus

Νότου καὶ Ζεφύρου

Νότος

ταύτην, ὦ Ζέφυρε, τὴν δάμαλιν, ἣν διὰ τοῦ πελάγους ἐς Αἴγυπτον ὁ Ἑρμῆς ἄγει, ὁ Ζεὺς διεκόρευσεν ἁλοὺς ἔρωτι;

Ζέφυρος

ναί, ὦ Νότε· οὐ δάμαλις δὲ τότε, ἀλλὰ παῖς ἦν τοῦ ποταμοῦ Ἰνάχου· νῦν δὲ ἡ Ἥρα τοιαύτην ἐποίησεν αὐτὴν ζηλοτυπήσασα, ὅτι καὶ πάνυ ἑώρα ἐρῶντα τὸν Δία.

Νότος

νῦν οὖν ἔτι ἐρᾷ τῆς βοός;

Ζέφυρος

καὶ μάλα, καὶ διὰ τοῦτο ἐς Αἴγυπτον αὐτὴν 306 ἔπεμψε καὶ ἡμῖν προσέταξε μὴ κυμαίνειν τὴν θάλατταν ἔστʼ ἂν διανήξηται, ὡς ἀποτεκοῦσα ἐκεῖ — κυεῖ δὲ ἤδη — θεὸς γένοιτο καὶ αὐτὴ καὶ τὸ τεχθέν.

Νότος

ἡ δάμαλις θεός;

Ζέφυρος

καὶ μάλα, ὦ Νότε· ἄρξει τε, ὡς ὁ Ἑρμῆς ἔφη, τῶν πλεόντων καὶ ἡμῶν ἔσται δέσποινα, ὅντινα ἂν ἡμῶν ἐθέλῃ ἐκπέμψαι ἢ κωλῦσαι ἐπιπνεῖν.

Νότος

Θεραπευτέα τοιγαροῦν, ὦ Ζέφυρε, ἤδη δέσποινά γε οὖσα.

Ζέφυρος

νὴ Δίʼ· εὐνουστέρα γὰρ ἂν οὕτω γένοιτο. ἀλλʼ ἤδη γὰρ διεπέρασε καὶ ἐξένευσεν ἐς τὴν γῆν. ὁρᾷς ὅπως οὐκέτι μὲν τετραποδιστὶ βαδίζει, ἀνορθώσας δὲ αὐτὴν ὁ Ἑρμῆς γυναῖκα παγκάλην αὖθις ἐποίησε;

Νότος

παράδοξα γοῦν ταῦτα, ὦ Ζέφυρε· οὐκέτι τὰ κέρατα οὐδὲ οὐρὰ καὶ δίχηλα τὰ σκέλη, ἀλλʼ ἐπέραστος 307 κόρη. ὁ μέντοι Ἑρμῆς τί παθὼν μεταβέβληκεν ἑαυτὸν καὶ ἀντὶ νεανίου κυνοπρόσωπος γεγένηται;

Ζέφυρος

μὴ πολυπραγμονῶμεν, ὅτε ἄμεινον ἐκεῖνος οἶδε τὰ πρακτέα.

Θεῶν διάλογοι Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 7. Macleod, Matthew Donald, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1961 (unrenewed copyright).) — 7 focus

ΠΑΝΟΠΗΣ ΚΑΙ ΓΑΛΗΝΗΣ

ΠΑΝΟΠΗ

Εἶδες, ὦ Γαλήνη, χθὲς οἷα ἐποίησεν ἡ Ἔρις παρὰ τὸ δεῖπνον ἐν Θετταλίᾳ, διότι μὴ καὶ αὐτὴ ἐκλήθη εἰς τὸ συμπόσιον;

ΓΑΛΗΝΗ

Οὐ συνειστιώμην ὑμῖν ἔγωγε· ὁ γὰρ Ποσειδῶν ἐκέλευσέ με, ὦ Πανόπη, ἀκύμαντον ἐν τοσούτῳ φυλάττειν τὸ πέλαγος. τί δ’ οὖν ἐποίησεν ἡ Ἔρις μὴ παροῦσα; ¹

ΠΑΝΟΠΗ

Ἡ Θέτις μὲν ἤδη καὶ ὁ Πηλεὺς ἀπεληλύθεσαν ἐς τὸν θάλαμον ὑπὸ τῆς Ἀμφιτρίτης καὶ τοῦ Ποσειδῶνος παραπεμφθέντες, ἡ Ἔρις δὲ ἐν τοσούτῳ 301 λαθοῦσα πάντας—ἐδυνήθη δὲ ῥᾳδίως, τῶν μὲν πινόντων, ἐνίων δὲ κροτούντων ἢ τῷ Ἀπόλλωνι κιθαρίζοντι ἢ ταῖς Μούσαις ᾀδούσαις προσεχόντων τὸν νοῦν—ἐνέβαλεν ἐς τὸ συμπόσιον μῆλόν τι πάγκαλον, χρυσοῦν ὅλον, ὦ Γαλήνη· ἐπεγέγραπτο δὲ “ἡ καλὴ λαβέτω.” κυλινδούμενον δὲ τοῦτο ὥσπερ ἐξεπίτηδες ἧκεν ἔνθα Ἥρα τε καὶ Ἀφροδίτη καὶ Ἀθηνᾶ κατεκλίνοντο.

ΠΑΝΟΠΗ

κἀπειδὴ ὁ Ἑρμῆς ἀνελόμενος ἐπελέξατο τὰ γεγραμμένα, αἱ μὲν Νηρεΐδες ἡμεῖς ἐσιωπήσαμεν. τί γὰρ ἔδει ποιεῖν ἐκείνων παρουσῶν; αἱ δὲ ἀντεποιοῦντο ἑκάστη καὶ αὑτῆς εἶναι τὸ μῆλον ἠξίουν, καὶ εἰ μή γε ὁ Ζεὺς διέστησεν αὐτάς, καὶ ἄχρι χειρῶν ἂν τὸ πρᾶγμα προὐχώρησεν. ἀλλ’ ἐκεῖνος, Αὐτὸς μὲν οὐ κρινῶ, φησί, περὶ τούτου,—καίτοι ἐκεῖναι αὐτὸν δικάσαι ἠξίουν—ἄπιτε δὲ ἐς τὴν Ἴδην παρὰ τὸν ² Πριάμου παῖδα, ὃς οἶδέ τε διαγνῶναι τὸ κάλλιον φιλόκαλος ὤν, καὶ οὐκ ἂν ἐκεῖνος κρίναι κακῶς.

ΓΑΛΗΝΗ

Τί οὖν αἱ θεαί, ὦ Πανόπη;

ΠΑΝΟΠΗ

Τήμερον, οἶμαι, ἀπίασιν εἰς τὴν Ἴδην, καί τις ἥξει μετὰ μικρὸν ἀπαγγέλλων ἡμῖν τὴν κρατοῦσαν.

ΓΑΛΗΝΗ

Ἤδη σοί φημι, οὐκ ἄλλη κρατήσει τῆς Ἀφροδίτης ἀγωνιζομένης, ἢν μὴ πάνυ ὁ διαιτητὴς ³ ἀμβλυώττῃ.

Translations (1)

Dialogues of the Gods Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 7. Macleod, Matthew Donald, translator. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1961 (unrenewed copyright).) — 7 focus

Panope and Galene

PANOPE

Did you see, Galene, what Discord did yesterday at the banquet in Thessaly, because she wasn’t invited?

GALENE

I wasn’t with you people in person at the banquet. For Poseidon had told me, my dear Panope, to keep the sea calm while it lasted. But what did the absent Discord do?

PANOPE

Thetis and Peleus had already left and gone to their chamber, escorted by Amphitrite and Poseidon. Meanwhile Discord had crept in unseen by all—that was easy enough, with the guests drinking, applauding, or listening to Apollo’s playing or the Muses’ singing—and she threw a beautiful apple amongst the guests—an apple of solid gold, my dear, with the inscription “For the queen of Beauty”. The apple rolled, as if aimed, to where Hera, Aphrodite and Athena were at table.

PANOPE

Then Hermes picked it up, and read out the inscription, but we Nereids held our tongues. What could we do when such august ladies were present? Each of them laid claim to the apple, insisting it should rightly be hers, and it would have come to blows, if Zeus hadn’t parted them, saying, “I won’t judge this matter myself”,—though they kept insisting he should—“but you go to Priam’s son ¹ on Ida. He knows how to decide between beauties, for he’s a connoisseur of beauty; his verdict is bound to be right.”

GALENE

And what have the goddesses done, Panope?

PANOPE

They’ll be going to Ida today, I believe, and we’ll soon have a messenger with news of the winner.

GALENE

I can tell you that now. Only Aphrodite can win, if she competes—unless the umpire is very short-sighted.

Lucian Dialogi Marini 7

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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VII

South Wind

West Wind

South Wind

Zephyr, is it true about Zeus and the heifer that Hermes is convoying across the sea to Egypt?—that he fell in love with it?

West Wind

Certainly. She was not a heifer then, though, but a daughter of the river Inachus. Hera made her what she is now; Zeus was so deep in love that Hera was jealous.

South Wind

And is he still in love, now that she is a cow?

West Wind

Oh, yes; that is why he has sent her to Egypt, and told us not to stir up the sea till she has swum across; she is to be delivered there of her child, and both of them are to be Gods.

South Wind

The heifer a God?

West Wind

Yes, I tell you. And Hermes said she was to be the patroness of sailors and our mistress, and send out or confine any of us that she chooses,

South Wind

So we must regard ourselves as her servants at once?

West Wind

Why, yes; she will be the kinder if we do. Ah, she has got across and landed. Do you see? she does not go on four legs now; Hermes has made her stand erect, and turned her back into a beautiful woman.

South Wind

This is most remarkable, Zephyr; no horns, no tail, no cloven hoofs; instead, a lovely maid. But what is the matter with Hermes? he has changed his handsome face into a dog’s.

West Wind

We had better not meddle; he knows his own business best.

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Νότου καὶ Ζεφύρου

Νότος

ταύτην, ὦ Ζέφυρε, τὴν δάμαλιν, ἣν διὰ τοῦ πελάγους ἐς Αἴγυπτον ὁ Ἑρμῆς ἄγει, ὁ Ζεὺς διεκόρευσεν ἁλοὺς ἔρωτι;

Νότος

νῦν οὖν ἔτι ἐρᾷ τῆς βοός;

Νότος

ἡ δάμαλις θεός;

Ζέφυρος

καὶ μάλα, ὦ Νότε· ἄρξει τε, ὡς ὁ Ἑρμῆς ἔφη, τῶν πλεόντων καὶ ἡμῶν ἔσται δέσποινα, ὅντινα ἂν ἡμῶν ἐθέλῃ ἐκπέμψαι ἢ κωλῦσαι ἐπιπνεῖν.

Νότος

Θεραπευτέα τοιγαροῦν, ὦ Ζέφυρε, ἤδη δέσποινά γε οὖσα.

Ζέφυρος

μὴ πολυπραγμονῶμεν, ὅτε ἄμεινον ἐκεῖνος οἶδε τὰ πρακτέα.

ΠΑΝΟΠΗΣ ΚΑΙ ΓΑΛΗΝΗΣ

ΠΑΝΟΠΗ

Εἶδες, ὦ Γαλήνη, χθὲς οἷα ἐποίησεν ἡ Ἔρις παρὰ τὸ δεῖπνον ἐν Θετταλίᾳ, διότι μὴ καὶ αὐτὴ ἐκλήθη εἰς τὸ συμπόσιον;

ΓΑΛΗΝΗ

Τί οὖν αἱ θεαί, ὦ Πανόπη;

ΠΑΝΟΠΗ

Τήμερον, οἶμαι, ἀπίασιν εἰς τὴν Ἴδην, καί τις ἥξει μετὰ μικρὸν ἀπαγγέλλων ἡμῖν τὴν κρατοῦσαν.

ΓΑΛΗΝΗ

Ἤδη σοί φημι, οὐκ ἄλλη κρατήσει τῆς Ἀφροδίτης ἀγωνιζομένης, ἢν μὴ πάνυ ὁ διαιτητὴς ³ ἀμβλυώττῃ.

Panope and Galene

PANOPE

Did you see, Galene, what Discord did yesterday at the banquet in Thessaly, because she wasn’t invited?

GALENE

I wasn’t with you people in person at the banquet. For Poseidon had told me, my dear Panope, to keep the sea calm while it lasted. But what did the absent Discord do?

GALENE

And what have the goddesses done, Panope?

PANOPE

They’ll be going to Ida today, I believe, and we’ll soon have a messenger with news of the winner.

GALENE

I can tell you that now. Only Aphrodite can win, if she competes—unless the umpire is very short-sighted.

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VII

South Wind

West Wind

South Wind Zephyr, is it true about Zeus and the heifer that Hermes is convoying across the sea to Egypt?—that he fell in love with it?

West Wind Certainly. She was not a heifer then, though, but a daughter of the river Inachus. Hera made her what she is now; Zeus was so deep in love that Hera was jealous.

South Wind And is he still in love, now that she is a cow?

West Wind Oh, yes; that is why he has sent her to Egypt, and told us not to stir up the sea till she has swum across; she is to be delivered there of her child, and both of them are to be Gods.

South Wind The heifer a God?

West Wind Yes, I tell you. And Hermes said she was to be the patroness of sailors and our mistress, and send out or confine any of us that she chooses,

South Wind So we must regard ourselves as her servants at once?

West Wind Why, yes; she will be the kinder if we do. Ah, she has got across and landed. Do you see? she does not go on four legs now; Hermes has made her stand erect, and turned her back into a beautiful woman.

South Wind This is most remarkable, Zephyr; no horns, no tail, no cloven hoofs; instead, a lovely maid. But what is the matter with Hermes? he has changed his handsome face into a dog’s.

West Wind We had better not meddle; he knows his own business best.

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Νότου καὶ Ζεφύρου

Νότος ταύτην, ὦ Ζέφυρε, τὴν δάμαλιν, ἣν διὰ τοῦ πελάγους ἐς Αἴγυπτον ὁ Ἑρμῆς ἄγει, ὁ Ζεὺς διεκόρευσεν ἁλοὺς ἔρωτι;

Νότος νῦν οὖν ἔτι ἐρᾷ τῆς βοός;

Νότος ἡ δάμαλις θεός;

Ζέφυρος καὶ μάλα, ὦ Νότε· ἄρξει τε, ὡς ὁ Ἑρμῆς ἔφη, τῶν πλεόντων καὶ ἡμῶν ἔσται δέσποινα, ὅντινα ἂν ἡμῶν ἐθέλῃ ἐκπέμψαι ἢ κωλῦσαι ἐπιπνεῖν.

Νότος Θεραπευτέα τοιγαροῦν, ὦ Ζέφυρε, ἤδη δέσποινά γε οὖσα.

Ζέφυρος μὴ πολυπραγμονῶμεν, ὅτε ἄμεινον ἐκεῖνος οἶδε τὰ πρακτέα.

ΠΑΝΟΠΗΣ ΚΑΙ ΓΑΛΗΝΗΣ

ΠΑΝΟΠΗ Εἶδες, ὦ Γαλήνη, χθὲς οἷα ἐποίησεν ἡ Ἔρις παρὰ τὸ δεῖπνον ἐν Θετταλίᾳ, διότι μὴ καὶ αὐτὴ ἐκλήθη εἰς τὸ συμπόσιον;

ΓΑΛΗΝΗ Οὐ συνειστιώμην ὑμῖν ἔγωγε· ὁ γὰρ Ποσειδῶν ἐκέλευσέ με, ὦ Πανόπη, ἀκύμαντον ἐν τοσούτῳ φυλάττειν τὸ πέλαγος. τί δ’ οὖν ἐποίησεν ἡ Ἔρις μὴ παροῦσα; 1

ΓΑΛΗΝΗ Τί οὖν αἱ θεαί, ὦ Πανόπη;

ΠΑΝΟΠΗ Τήμερον, οἶμαι, ἀπίασιν εἰς τὴν Ἴδην, καί τις ἥξει μετὰ μικρὸν ἀπαγγέλλων ἡμῖν τὴν κρατοῦσαν.

ΓΑΛΗΝΗ Ἤδη σοί φημι, οὐκ ἄλλη κρατήσει τῆς Ἀφροδίτης ἀγωνιζομένης, ἢν μὴ πάνυ ὁ διαιτητὴς 3 ἀμβλυώττῃ.

Panope and Galene

PANOPE Did you see, Galene, what Discord did yesterday at the banquet in Thessaly, because she wasn’t invited?

GALENE I wasn’t with you people in person at the banquet. For Poseidon had told me, my dear Panope, to keep the sea calm while it lasted. But what did the absent Discord do?

GALENE And what have the goddesses done, Panope?

PANOPE They’ll be going to Ida today, I believe, and we’ll soon have a messenger with news of the winner.

GALENE I can tell you that now. Only Aphrodite can win, if she competes—unless the umpire is very short-sighted.

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South Wind

Zephyr, is it true about Zeus and the heifer that Hermes is convoying across the sea to Egypt?—that he fell in love with it?

West Wind

Certainly. She was not a heifer then, though, but a daughter of the river Inachus. Hera made her what she is now; Zeus was so deep in love that Hera was jealous.

South Wind

And is he still in love, now that she is a cow?

West Wind

Oh, yes; that is why he has sent her to Egypt, and told us not to stir up the sea till she has swum across; she is to be delivered there of her child, and both of them are to be Gods.

South Wind

The heifer a God?

West Wind

Yes, I tell you. And Hermes said she was to be the patroness of sailors and our mistress, and send out or confine any of us that she chooses,

South Wind

So we must regard ourselves as her servants at once?

West Wind

Why, yes; she will be the kinder if we do. Ah, she has got across and landed. Do you see? she does not go on four legs now; Hermes has made her stand erect, and turned her back into a beautiful woman.

South Wind

This is most remarkable, Zephyr; no horns, no tail, no cloven hoofs; instead, a lovely maid. But what is the matter with Hermes? he has changed his handsome face into a dog’s.

West Wind

We had better not meddle; he knows his own business best.

Νότος

ταύτην, ὦ Ζέφυρε, τὴν δάμαλιν, ἣν διὰ τοῦ πελάγους ἐς Αἴγυπτον ὁ Ἑρμῆς ἄγει, ὁ Ζεὺς διεκόρευσεν ἁλοὺς ἔρωτι;

Νότος

νῦν οὖν ἔτι ἐρᾷ τῆς βοός;

Νότος

ἡ δάμαλις θεός;

Ζέφυρος

καὶ μάλα, ὦ Νότε· ἄρξει τε, ὡς ὁ Ἑρμῆς ἔφη, τῶν πλεόντων καὶ ἡμῶν ἔσται δέσποινα, ὅντινα ἂν ἡμῶν ἐθέλῃ ἐκπέμψαι ἢ κωλῦσαι ἐπιπνεῖν.

Νότος

Θεραπευτέα τοιγαροῦν, ὦ Ζέφυρε, ἤδη δέσποινά γε οὖσα.

Ζέφυρος

μὴ πολυπραγμονῶμεν, ὅτε ἄμεινον ἐκεῖνος οἶδε τὰ πρακτέα.

ΠΑΝΟΠΗ

Εἶδες, ὦ Γαλήνη, χθὲς οἷα ἐποίησεν ἡ Ἔρις παρὰ τὸ δεῖπνον ἐν Θετταλίᾳ, διότι μὴ καὶ αὐτὴ ἐκλήθη εἰς τὸ συμπόσιον;

ΓΑΛΗΝΗ

Τί οὖν αἱ θεαί, ὦ Πανόπη;

ΠΑΝΟΠΗ

Τήμερον, οἶμαι, ἀπίασιν εἰς τὴν Ἴδην, καί τις ἥξει μετὰ μικρὸν ἀπαγγέλλων ἡμῖν τὴν κρατοῦσαν.

ΓΑΛΗΝΗ

Ἤδη σοί φημι, οὐκ ἄλλη κρατήσει τῆς Ἀφροδίτης ἀγωνιζομένης, ἢν μὴ πάνυ ὁ διαιτητὴς ³ ἀμβλυώττῃ.

PANOPE

Did you see, Galene, what Discord did yesterday at the banquet in Thessaly, because she wasn’t invited?

GALENE

I wasn’t with you people in person at the banquet. For Poseidon had told me, my dear Panope, to keep the sea calm while it lasted. But what did the absent Discord do?

GALENE

And what have the goddesses done, Panope?

PANOPE

They’ll be going to Ida today, I believe, and we’ll soon have a messenger with news of the winner.

GALENE

I can tell you that now. Only Aphrodite can win, if she competes—unless the umpire is very short-sighted.