Lucian of Samosata, Hermotimus, ed. Kenneth Kilburn, 23

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ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Τί οὖν, ὦ Λυκῖνε; οὐκ ἄξιον ἅπαντας ἐπιθυμεῖν πολίτας γίγνεσθαι τῆς τοιαύτης πόλεως μήτε κάματον ὑπολογιζομένους τὸν ἐν τῇ ὁδῷ μήτε πρὸς τὸ μῆκος τοῦ χρόνου ἀπαγορεύοντας, εἰ μέλλουσιν ἀφικόμενοι ἐγγραφήσεσθαι καὶ αὐτοὶ καὶ μεθέξειν τῆς πολιτείας;

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Νὴ Δία, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, πάντων μάλιστα ἐπὶ τούτῳ σπουδαστέον, τῶν δὲ ἄλλων ἀμελητέον, καὶ μήτε πατρίδος τῆς ἐνταῦθα ἐπιλαμβανομένης πολὺν ποιεῖσθαι λόγον μήτε παίδων ἢ γονέων ὅτῳ εἰσίν ἐπικατεχόντων καὶ κλαυθμυριζομένων ἐπικλᾶσθαι, ἀλλὰ μάλιστα μὲν κἀκείνους παρακαλεῖν ἐπὶ τὴν αὐτὴν ὁδόν, εἰ δὲ μὴ ἐθέλοιεν ἢ μὴ δύναιντο, ἀποσεισάμενον αὐτοὺς χωρεῖν εὐθὺ τῆς πανευδαίμονος ἐκείνης πόλεως καὶ αὐτὸ ἀπορρίψαντα τὸ ἱμάτιον εἰ τούτου ἐπειλημμένοι κατερύκοιεν, ἐσσύμενον ἐκεῖσε—οὐ γὰρ δέος μή σέ τις ἀποκλείσῃ καὶ γυμνὸν ἐκεῖσε ἥκοντα.

Hermotimus. Lucian of Samosata. ed. Kenneth Kilburn. Medford, MA. Perseus 5.0.

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Σκύθης ἢ πρόξενος (Greek) (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).)

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Ἑρμότιμος ἢ Περὶ Αἱρέσεων Perseus (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 1. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1909.) — 23 focus

Ἑρμότιμος

τί οὖν, ὦ Λυκῖνε; οὐκ ἄξιον ἅπαντας ἐπιθυμεῖν πολίτας γίγνεσθαι τῆς τοιαύτης πόλεως μήτε κάματον ὑπολογιζομένους τὸν ἐν τῇ ὁδῷ μήτε πρὸς τὸ μῆκος τοῦ χρόνου ἀπαγορεύοντας, εἰ μέλλουσιν ἀφικόμενοι ἐγγραφήσεσθαι καὶ αὐτοὶ καὶ μεθέξειν τῆς πολι τείας;

Λυκῖνος

νὴ Δίʼ, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, πάντων μάλιστα ἐπὶ τούτῳ σπουδαστέον, τῶν δʼ ἄλλων ἀμελητέον, καὶ μήτε πατρίδος τῆς ἐνταῦθα ἐπιλαμβανομένης πολὺν ποιεῖσθαι τὸν λόγον μήτε παίδων ἢ γονέων, ὅτῳ εἰσίν, ἐπικατεχόντων καὶ κλαυθμυριζομένων ἐπικλᾶσθαι, ἀλλὰ μάλιστα μὲν κἀκείνους παρακαλεῖν ἐπὶ τὴν αὐτὴν ὁδόν, εἰ δὲ μὴ ἐθέλοιεν ἢ μὴ δύναιντο, ἀποσεισάμενον αὐτοὺς χωρεῖν εὐθὺ τῆς πανευδαίμονος ἐκείνης πόλεως καὶ αὐτὸ ἀπορρίψαντα τὸ ἱμάτιον, εἰ τούτου ἐπειλημμένοι κατερύκοιεν, 762 ἐσσύμενον ἐκεῖσε· οὐ γὰρ δέος μή σέ τις ἀποκλείσῃ καὶ γυμνὸν ἐκεῖσε ἥκοντα.

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The Scythian or Consul Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, translator. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 23 focus

HERMOTIMUS

Well then, Lycinus, isn’t it right for everyone to long for citizenship of a city like that, and neither to think of the toils of the journey nor give up because of the time it takes, if once they get there they too are going to be enrolled as citizens and share in the city’s life?

LYCINUS

Yes, indeed, Hermotimus, this we must strive for above everything, and all else we must ignore. If our native country here lays claim to us, we must take scant notice, and if any children or parents we may have cling to us weeping, we shall not give way. No, first and foremost we shall urge them to follow the same road. If they will not, or cannot, we must shake them off and make straight for that all-happy city, throwing off our very cloak should they hold on to it to drag us back as we hurry there—for there is no fear of being shut out, even if you come there naked.

Hermotimus, or the Rival Philosophies Perseus (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 2. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.) — 23 focus

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Hermotimus

Well, Lycinus? Must not all men yearn to belong to a State like that, and never count the toil of getting there, nor lose heart over the time it takes? Enough that one day they will arrive, and be naturalized, and given the franchise.

Lycinus

In good truth, Hermotimus, we should devote all our efforts to this, and neglect everything else; we need pay little heed to any claims of our earthly country; we should steel our hearts against the clingings and cryings of children or parents, if we have them; it is well if we can induce them to go with us; but, if they will not or cannot, shake them off and march straight for the city of bliss, leaving your coat in their hands, if they lay hold of it to keep you back, in your hurry to get there; what matter for a coat? You will be admitted there without one.

Lucian of Samosata Hermotimus 23

ed. Kenneth Kilburn

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HERMOTIMUS

Well then, Lycinus, isn’t it right for everyone to long for citizenship of a city like that, and neither to think of the toils of the journey nor give up because of the time it takes, if once they get there they too are going to be enrolled as citizens and share in the city’s life?

Hermotimus

Lycinus

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HERMOTIMUS Well then, Lycinus, isn’t it right for everyone to long for citizenship of a city like that, and neither to think of the toils of the journey nor give up because of the time it takes, if once they get there they too are going to be enrolled as citizens and share in the city’s life?

Hermotimus

Lycinus

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HERMOTIMUS

Well then, Lycinus, isn’t it right for everyone to long for citizenship of a city like that, and neither to think of the toils of the journey nor give up because of the time it takes, if once they get there they too are going to be enrolled as citizens and share in the city’s life?