Lucian, Hermotimus, Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator), 14

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[14] Now, is there only one road to philosophy—the Stoic way? they tell me there are a great many other philosophers; is that so?

Hermotimus

Certainly—Peripatetics, Epicureans, Platonists, followers of Diogenes, Antisthenes, Pythagoras, and more yet.

Lycinus

Quite so; numbers of them. Now, are their doctrines the same, or different?

Hermotimus

Entirely different.

Lycinus

But the truth, I presume, is bound to be in one of them, and not in all, as they differ?

Hermotimus

Certainly.

Hermotimus. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

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Hermotimus, or the Rival Philosophies (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 2. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

Editions (2)

Ἑρμότιμος ἢ Περὶ Αἱρέσεων Perseus (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 1. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1909.) — 14 focus

Λυκῖνος

ἀτὰρ εἰπέ μοι, μία τις ὁδός 753 ἐστιν ἡ ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ἄγουσα, ἡ τῶν Στωϊκῶν ὑμῶν, ἢ ἀληθῆ ἐγὼ ἤκουον ὡς καὶ ἄλλοι πολλοί τινές εἰσιν;

Ἑρμότιμος

μάλα πολλοί, Περιπατητικοὶ καὶ Ἐπικούρειοι καὶ οἱ τὸν Πλάτωνα ἐπιγραφόμενοι, καὶ αὖ Διογένους ἄλλοι τινὲς καὶ Ἀντισθένους ζηλωταὶ καὶ οἱ ἀπὸ τοῦ Πυθαγόρου καὶ ἔτι πλείους.

Λυκῖνος

ἀληθῆ ταῦτα· πολλοὶ γάρ εἰσι. πότερον δή, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, τὰ αὐτὰ οὗτοι λέγουσιν ἢ διάφορα;

Ἑρμότιμος

καὶ πάνυ διάφορα.

Λυκῖνος

τὸ δέ γε ἀληθές, οἶμαι, πάντως που ἓν ἦν αὐτῶν, ἀλλʼ οὐ πάντα διάφορά γε ὄντα.

Ἑρμότιμος

πάνυ μὲν οὖν.

Σκύθης ἢ πρόξενος Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 14 focus

ἀτὰρ εἰπέ μοι, μία τις ὁδός ἐστιν ἡ ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ἄγουσα ἡ τῶν Στωϊκῶν ὑμῶν; ἢ ἀληθῆ ἐγὼ ἤκουον ὡς καὶ ἄλλοι πολλοί τινές εἰσιν;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Μάλα πολλοί—Περιπατητικοὶ καὶ Ἐπικούρειοι καὶ οἱ τὸν Πλάτωνα ἐπιγραφόμενοι, καὶ αὖ Διογένους ἄλλοι τινὲς καὶ Ἀντισθένους ζηλωταὶ καὶ οἱ ἀπὸ τοῦ Πυθαγόρου καὶ ἔτι πλείους.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Ἀληθῆ ταῦτα· πολλοὶ γάρ εἰσι. πότερον δή, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, τὰ αὐτὰ οὗτοι λέγουσιν ἢ διάφορα;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Καὶ πάνυ διάφορα.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Τὸ δέ γε ἀληθὲς οἶμαι πάντως που ἓν ἦν αὐτῶν ἀλλ’ οὐ πάντα διάφορά γε ὄντα.

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Πάνυ μὲν οὖν.

Translations (1)

The Scythian or Consul Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, translator. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 14 focus

Now tell me, is there one way only to philosophy, the one you Stoics follow? I have heard there are many other schools as well. Is that right?

HERMOTIMUS

Very many—the Peripatetics, Epicureans, those who take Plato as their patron, others also, the devotees of Diogenes and Antisthenes, Pythagoreans, and more besides.

Lucian Hermotimus 14

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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Λυκῖνος

ἀτὰρ εἰπέ μοι, μία τις ὁδός 753 ἐστιν ἡ ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ἄγουσα, ἡ τῶν Στωϊκῶν ὑμῶν, ἢ ἀληθῆ ἐγὼ ἤκουον ὡς καὶ ἄλλοι πολλοί τινές εἰσιν;

Λυκῖνος

ἀληθῆ ταῦτα· πολλοὶ γάρ εἰσι. πότερον δή, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, τὰ αὐτὰ οὗτοι λέγουσιν ἢ διάφορα;

Ἑρμότιμος

καὶ πάνυ διάφορα.

Λυκῖνος

τὸ δέ γε ἀληθές, οἶμαι, πάντως που ἓν ἦν αὐτῶν, ἀλλʼ οὐ πάντα διάφορά γε ὄντα.

Ἑρμότιμος

πάνυ μὲν οὖν.

ἀτὰρ εἰπέ μοι, μία τις ὁδός ἐστιν ἡ ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ἄγουσα ἡ τῶν Στωϊκῶν ὑμῶν; ἢ ἀληθῆ ἐγὼ ἤκουον ὡς καὶ ἄλλοι πολλοί τινές εἰσιν;

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Ἀληθῆ ταῦτα· πολλοὶ γάρ εἰσι. πότερον δή, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, τὰ αὐτὰ οὗτοι λέγουσιν ἢ διάφορα;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Καὶ πάνυ διάφορα.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Τὸ δέ γε ἀληθὲς οἶμαι πάντως που ἓν ἦν αὐτῶν ἀλλ’ οὐ πάντα διάφορά γε ὄντα.

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Πάνυ μὲν οὖν.

Now tell me, is there one way only to philosophy, the one you Stoics follow? I have heard there are many other schools as well. Is that right?

HERMOTIMUS

Very many—the Peripatetics, Epicureans, those who take Plato as their patron, others also, the devotees of Diogenes and Antisthenes, Pythagoreans, and more besides.

LYCINUS

True, there are many. Is what they say the same, Hermotimus, or different?

HERMOTIMUS

Quite different.

LYCINUS

At all events, one of their systems, I suppose, is true? They can’t all be true if they differ.

HERMOTIMUS

No, they can’t.

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Λυκῖνος ἀτὰρ εἰπέ μοι, μία τις ὁδός 753 ἐστιν ἡ ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ἄγουσα, ἡ τῶν Στωϊκῶν ὑμῶν, ἢ ἀληθῆ ἐγὼ ἤκουον ὡς καὶ ἄλλοι πολλοί τινές εἰσιν;

Λυκῖνος ἀληθῆ ταῦτα· πολλοὶ γάρ εἰσι. πότερον δή, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, τὰ αὐτὰ οὗτοι λέγουσιν ἢ διάφορα;

Ἑρμότιμος καὶ πάνυ διάφορα.

Λυκῖνος τὸ δέ γε ἀληθές, οἶμαι, πάντως που ἓν ἦν αὐτῶν, ἀλλʼ οὐ πάντα διάφορά γε ὄντα.

Ἑρμότιμος πάνυ μὲν οὖν.

ἀτὰρ εἰπέ μοι, μία τις ὁδός ἐστιν ἡ ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ἄγουσα ἡ τῶν Στωϊκῶν ὑμῶν; ἢ ἀληθῆ ἐγὼ ἤκουον ὡς καὶ ἄλλοι πολλοί τινές εἰσιν;

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ Ἀληθῆ ταῦτα· πολλοὶ γάρ εἰσι. πότερον δή, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, τὰ αὐτὰ οὗτοι λέγουσιν ἢ διάφορα;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ Καὶ πάνυ διάφορα.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ Τὸ δέ γε ἀληθὲς οἶμαι πάντως που ἓν ἦν αὐτῶν ἀλλ’ οὐ πάντα διάφορά γε ὄντα.

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ Πάνυ μὲν οὖν.

Now tell me, is there one way only to philosophy, the one you Stoics follow? I have heard there are many other schools as well. Is that right?

HERMOTIMUS Very many—the Peripatetics, Epicureans, those who take Plato as their patron, others also, the devotees of Diogenes and Antisthenes, Pythagoreans, and more besides.

LYCINUS True, there are many. Is what they say the same, Hermotimus, or different?

HERMOTIMUS Quite different.

LYCINUS At all events, one of their systems, I suppose, is true? They can’t all be true if they differ.

HERMOTIMUS No, they can’t.

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Λυκῖνος

ἀτὰρ εἰπέ μοι, μία τις ὁδός 753 ἐστιν ἡ ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ἄγουσα, ἡ τῶν Στωϊκῶν ὑμῶν, ἢ ἀληθῆ ἐγὼ ἤκουον ὡς καὶ ἄλλοι πολλοί τινές εἰσιν;

Λυκῖνος

ἀληθῆ ταῦτα· πολλοὶ γάρ εἰσι. πότερον δή, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, τὰ αὐτὰ οὗτοι λέγουσιν ἢ διάφορα;

Ἑρμότιμος

καὶ πάνυ διάφορα.

Λυκῖνος

τὸ δέ γε ἀληθές, οἶμαι, πάντως που ἓν ἦν αὐτῶν, ἀλλʼ οὐ πάντα διάφορά γε ὄντα.

Ἑρμότιμος

πάνυ μὲν οὖν.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Ἀληθῆ ταῦτα· πολλοὶ γάρ εἰσι. πότερον δή, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, τὰ αὐτὰ οὗτοι λέγουσιν ἢ διάφορα;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Καὶ πάνυ διάφορα.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Τὸ δέ γε ἀληθὲς οἶμαι πάντως που ἓν ἦν αὐτῶν ἀλλ’ οὐ πάντα διάφορά γε ὄντα.

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Πάνυ μὲν οὖν.

HERMOTIMUS

Very many—the Peripatetics, Epicureans, those who take Plato as their patron, others also, the devotees of Diogenes and Antisthenes, Pythagoreans, and more besides.

LYCINUS

True, there are many. Is what they say the same, Hermotimus, or different?

HERMOTIMUS

Quite different.

LYCINUS

At all events, one of their systems, I suppose, is true? They can’t all be true if they differ.

HERMOTIMUS

No, they can’t.