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Hermes

What about these two charges just brought against a thetorician?

Justice

No, those can stand over; we must work off the arrears first.

Hermes

Well, these cases are of just the same kind. They are not old ones, it is true, but they are very like those you have taken, and might fairly be heard with them.

Justice

That looks rather like favouritism, Hermes, However, as you like; only these must be the last; we have got quite enough. What are they?

Hermes

Rhetoric v. a Syrian¹, for neglect; Dialogue v, the same, for assault.

Justice

And who is this Syrian? There is no name given.

Hermes

That is all: the Syrian rhetorician; he can have a jury without having a name.

Justice

So! here on Areopagus I am to give juries to outsiders, who ought to be tried on the other side of the Euphrates? Well, give him eleven, and they can hear both cases.

Hermes

That’s right; it will save a lot of expense.

Bis accusatus sive tribunalia. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

Current edition Perseus

The Double Indictment (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 3. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

Editions (1)

Δὶς κατηγορούμενος Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 3. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1921.) — 14 focus

Ἑρμῆς

βούλει καὶ ταύτας ἀποκληρῶμεν, ὦ Δίκη, τὰς δύο, τὰς πρῴην ἀπενηνεγμένας κατὰ τοῦ ῥήτορος;

Δίκη

τὰς παλαιὰς πρότερον διανύσωμεν· αὗται δὲ εἰς ὕστερον δεδικάσονται.

Ἑρμῆς

καὶ μὴν ὅμοιαί γε καὶ αὗται καὶ τὸ ἔγκλημα, εἰ καὶ νεαρόν, ἀλλὰ παραπλήσιον τοῖς προαποκεκληρωμένοις· ὥστε ἐν τούτοις δικασθῆναι ἄξιον.

Δίκη

ἔοικας, ὦ Ἑρμῆ, χαριζομένῳ τὴν δέησιν. ἀποκληρῶμεν δʼ ὅμως, εἰ δοκεῖ, πλὴν ἀλλὰ ταύτας μόνας· ἱκαναὶ γὰρ αἱ ἀποκεκληρωμέναι. δὸς τὰς γραφάς.

Ἑρμῆς

ῥητορικὴ κακώσεως τῷ Σύρῳ· διάλογος τῷ αὐτῷ ὕβρεως.

Δίκη

τίς δὲ οὗτός ἐστιν; οὐ γὰρ ἐγγέγραπται τοὔνομα.

Ἑρμῆς

οὕτως ἀποκλήρου, τῷ ῥήτορι τῷ Σύρῳ· κωλύσει γὰρ οὐδὲν καὶ ἄνευ τοῦ ὀνόματος.

Δίκη

ἰδοῦ, καὶ τὰς ὑπερορίους ἤδη Ἀθήνησιν ἐν Ἀρείῳ πάγῳ ἀποκληρώσομεν, ἃς ὑπὲρ τὸν Εὐφράτην καλῶς εἶχε δεδικάσθαι; πλὴν ἀλλὰ κλήρου ἕνδεκα τοὺς αὐτοὺς ἑκατέρᾳ τῶν δικῶν.

Ἑρμῆς

εὖ γε, ὦ Δίκη, φείδῃ μὴ πολὺ ἀναλίσκεσθαι τὸ δικαστικόν.

Translations (1)

The Double Indictment Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 3. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1921.) — 14 focus

HERMES

Do you want us to provide juries for these two cases also, recorded yesterday against the public speaker?¹

JUSTICE

Let us first finish up the cases of long-standing; these can go over until to-morrow for trial.

HERMES

Why, these are of the same nature, and the complaint, although recent, is very like those for which we have already provided juries, so that it ought to be tried along with them.

JUSTICE

You appear to have been unduly influenced to make the request, Hermes. Let us make the drawing, however, since you wish; but only for these two cases; we have enough on the docket. Give me the writs.

HERMES

Oratory v. the Syrian: neglect. Dialogue v. the same: maltreatment.

JUSTICE

Who is this man? His name is not recorded.

HERMES

Empanel a jury for him as it stands in the writ— for the public speaker, the Syrian. There is nothing to hinder its being done anonymously.

JUSTICE

Look here, are we really to try cases from over the border here in Athens, on the Areopagus? They ought to have been tried on the other side of the Euphrates. However, draw eleven jurors, the same to sit for both cases.

HERMES

You are right, Justice, to avoid spending too much in jury-fees.

Notes on the current edition

The Double Indictment

1. i.e, Lucian. See Introduction, § 1, Life.

Lucian Bis accusatus sive tribunalia 14

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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Hermes

What about these two charges just brought against a thetorician?

Justice

No, those can stand over; we must work off the arrears first.

Hermes

Well, these cases are of just the same kind. They are not old ones, it is true, but they are very like those you have taken, and might fairly be heard with them.

Justice

That looks rather like favouritism, Hermes, However, as you like; only these must be the last; we have got quite enough. What are they?

Hermes

Rhetoric v. a Syrian¹, for neglect; Dialogue v, the same, for assault.

Justice

And who is this Syrian? There is no name given.

Hermes

That is all: the Syrian rhetorician; he can have a jury without having a name.

Justice

So! here on Areopagus I am to give juries to outsiders, who ought to be tried on the other side of the Euphrates? Well, give him eleven, and they can hear both cases.

Hermes

That’s right; it will save a lot of expense.

Current edition Perseus

Ἑρμῆς

βούλει καὶ ταύτας ἀποκληρῶμεν, ὦ Δίκη, τὰς δύο, τὰς πρῴην ἀπενηνεγμένας κατὰ τοῦ ῥήτορος;

Δίκη

τὰς παλαιὰς πρότερον διανύσωμεν· αὗται δὲ εἰς ὕστερον δεδικάσονται.

Ἑρμῆς

καὶ μὴν ὅμοιαί γε καὶ αὗται καὶ τὸ ἔγκλημα, εἰ καὶ νεαρόν, ἀλλὰ παραπλήσιον τοῖς προαποκεκληρωμένοις· ὥστε ἐν τούτοις δικασθῆναι ἄξιον.

Δίκη

ἔοικας, ὦ Ἑρμῆ, χαριζομένῳ τὴν δέησιν. ἀποκληρῶμεν δʼ ὅμως, εἰ δοκεῖ, πλὴν ἀλλὰ ταύτας μόνας· ἱκαναὶ γὰρ αἱ ἀποκεκληρωμέναι. δὸς τὰς γραφάς.

Ἑρμῆς

ῥητορικὴ κακώσεως τῷ Σύρῳ· διάλογος τῷ αὐτῷ ὕβρεως.

Δίκη

τίς δὲ οὗτός ἐστιν; οὐ γὰρ ἐγγέγραπται τοὔνομα.

Ἑρμῆς

οὕτως ἀποκλήρου, τῷ ῥήτορι τῷ Σύρῳ· κωλύσει γὰρ οὐδὲν καὶ ἄνευ τοῦ ὀνόματος.

Ἑρμῆς

εὖ γε, ὦ Δίκη, φείδῃ μὴ πολὺ ἀναλίσκεσθαι τὸ δικαστικόν.

HERMES

Do you want us to provide juries for these two cases also, recorded yesterday against the public speaker?¹

JUSTICE

Let us first finish up the cases of long-standing; these can go over until to-morrow for trial.

HERMES

Why, these are of the same nature, and the complaint, although recent, is very like those for which we have already provided juries, so that it ought to be tried along with them.

JUSTICE

You appear to have been unduly influenced to make the request, Hermes. Let us make the drawing, however, since you wish; but only for these two cases; we have enough on the docket. Give me the writs.

HERMES

Oratory v. the Syrian: neglect. Dialogue v. the same: maltreatment.

JUSTICE

Who is this man? His name is not recorded.

HERMES

Empanel a jury for him as it stands in the writ— for the public speaker, the Syrian. There is nothing to hinder its being done anonymously.

JUSTICE

Look here, are we really to try cases from over the border here in Athens, on the Areopagus? They ought to have been tried on the other side of the Euphrates. However, draw eleven jurors, the same to sit for both cases.

HERMES

You are right, Justice, to avoid spending too much in jury-fees.

Notes on the current edition

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Hermes What about these two charges just brought against a thetorician?

Justice No, those can stand over; we must work off the arrears first.

Hermes Well, these cases are of just the same kind. They are not old ones, it is true, but they are very like those you have taken, and might fairly be heard with them.

Justice That looks rather like favouritism, Hermes, However, as you like; only these must be the last; we have got quite enough. What are they?

Hermes Rhetoric v. a Syrian 1 , for neglect; Dialogue v, the same, for assault.

Justice And who is this Syrian? There is no name given.

Hermes That is all: the Syrian rhetorician; he can have a jury without having a name.

Justice So! here on Areopagus I am to give juries to outsiders, who ought to be tried on the other side of the Euphrates? Well, give him eleven, and they can hear both cases.

Hermes That’s right; it will save a lot of expense.

Current edition Perseus

Ἑρμῆς βούλει καὶ ταύτας ἀποκληρῶμεν, ὦ Δίκη, τὰς δύο, τὰς πρῴην ἀπενηνεγμένας κατὰ τοῦ ῥήτορος;

Δίκη τὰς παλαιὰς πρότερον διανύσωμεν· αὗται δὲ εἰς ὕστερον δεδικάσονται.

Ἑρμῆς καὶ μὴν ὅμοιαί γε καὶ αὗται καὶ τὸ ἔγκλημα, εἰ καὶ νεαρόν, ἀλλὰ παραπλήσιον τοῖς προαποκεκληρωμένοις· ὥστε ἐν τούτοις δικασθῆναι ἄξιον.

Δίκη ἔοικας, ὦ Ἑρμῆ, χαριζομένῳ τὴν δέησιν. ἀποκληρῶμεν δʼ ὅμως, εἰ δοκεῖ, πλὴν ἀλλὰ ταύτας μόνας· ἱκαναὶ γὰρ αἱ ἀποκεκληρωμέναι. δὸς τὰς γραφάς.

Ἑρμῆς ῥητορικὴ κακώσεως τῷ Σύρῳ· διάλογος τῷ αὐτῷ ὕβρεως.

Δίκη τίς δὲ οὗτός ἐστιν; οὐ γὰρ ἐγγέγραπται τοὔνομα.

Ἑρμῆς οὕτως ἀποκλήρου, τῷ ῥήτορι τῷ Σύρῳ· κωλύσει γὰρ οὐδὲν καὶ ἄνευ τοῦ ὀνόματος.

Ἑρμῆς εὖ γε, ὦ Δίκη, φείδῃ μὴ πολὺ ἀναλίσκεσθαι τὸ δικαστικόν.

HERMES Do you want us to provide juries for these two cases also, recorded yesterday against the public speaker? 1

JUSTICE Let us first finish up the cases of long-standing; these can go over until to-morrow for trial.

HERMES Why, these are of the same nature, and the complaint, although recent, is very like those for which we have already provided juries, so that it ought to be tried along with them.

JUSTICE You appear to have been unduly influenced to make the request, Hermes. Let us make the drawing, however, since you wish; but only for these two cases; we have enough on the docket. Give me the writs.

HERMES Oratory v. the Syrian: neglect. Dialogue v. the same: maltreatment.

JUSTICE Who is this man? His name is not recorded.

HERMES Empanel a jury for him as it stands in the writ— for the public speaker, the Syrian. There is nothing to hinder its being done anonymously.

JUSTICE Look here, are we really to try cases from over the border here in Athens, on the Areopagus? They ought to have been tried on the other side of the Euphrates. However, draw eleven jurors, the same to sit for both cases.

HERMES You are right, Justice, to avoid spending too much in jury-fees.

Notes on the current edition

Stable identifiers

Hermes

What about these two charges just brought against a thetorician?

Justice

No, those can stand over; we must work off the arrears first.

Hermes

Well, these cases are of just the same kind. They are not old ones, it is true, but they are very like those you have taken, and might fairly be heard with them.

Justice

That looks rather like favouritism, Hermes, However, as you like; only these must be the last; we have got quite enough. What are they?

Hermes

Rhetoric v. a Syrian¹, for neglect; Dialogue v, the same, for assault.

Justice

And who is this Syrian? There is no name given.

Hermes

That is all: the Syrian rhetorician; he can have a jury without having a name.

Justice

So! here on Areopagus I am to give juries to outsiders, who ought to be tried on the other side of the Euphrates? Well, give him eleven, and they can hear both cases.

Hermes

That’s right; it will save a lot of expense.

Ἑρμῆς

βούλει καὶ ταύτας ἀποκληρῶμεν, ὦ Δίκη, τὰς δύο, τὰς πρῴην ἀπενηνεγμένας κατὰ τοῦ ῥήτορος;

Δίκη

τὰς παλαιὰς πρότερον διανύσωμεν· αὗται δὲ εἰς ὕστερον δεδικάσονται.

Ἑρμῆς

καὶ μὴν ὅμοιαί γε καὶ αὗται καὶ τὸ ἔγκλημα, εἰ καὶ νεαρόν, ἀλλὰ παραπλήσιον τοῖς προαποκεκληρωμένοις· ὥστε ἐν τούτοις δικασθῆναι ἄξιον.

Δίκη

ἔοικας, ὦ Ἑρμῆ, χαριζομένῳ τὴν δέησιν. ἀποκληρῶμεν δʼ ὅμως, εἰ δοκεῖ, πλὴν ἀλλὰ ταύτας μόνας· ἱκαναὶ γὰρ αἱ ἀποκεκληρωμέναι. δὸς τὰς γραφάς.

Ἑρμῆς

ῥητορικὴ κακώσεως τῷ Σύρῳ· διάλογος τῷ αὐτῷ ὕβρεως.

Δίκη

τίς δὲ οὗτός ἐστιν; οὐ γὰρ ἐγγέγραπται τοὔνομα.

Ἑρμῆς

οὕτως ἀποκλήρου, τῷ ῥήτορι τῷ Σύρῳ· κωλύσει γὰρ οὐδὲν καὶ ἄνευ τοῦ ὀνόματος.

Ἑρμῆς

εὖ γε, ὦ Δίκη, φείδῃ μὴ πολὺ ἀναλίσκεσθαι τὸ δικαστικόν.

HERMES

Do you want us to provide juries for these two cases also, recorded yesterday against the public speaker?¹

JUSTICE

Let us first finish up the cases of long-standing; these can go over until to-morrow for trial.

HERMES

Why, these are of the same nature, and the complaint, although recent, is very like those for which we have already provided juries, so that it ought to be tried along with them.

JUSTICE

You appear to have been unduly influenced to make the request, Hermes. Let us make the drawing, however, since you wish; but only for these two cases; we have enough on the docket. Give me the writs.

HERMES

Oratory v. the Syrian: neglect. Dialogue v. the same: maltreatment.

JUSTICE

Who is this man? His name is not recorded.

HERMES

Empanel a jury for him as it stands in the writ— for the public speaker, the Syrian. There is nothing to hinder its being done anonymously.

JUSTICE

Look here, are we really to try cases from over the border here in Athens, on the Areopagus? They ought to have been tried on the other side of the Euphrates. However, draw eleven jurors, the same to sit for both cases.

HERMES

You are right, Justice, to avoid spending too much in jury-fees.