Lucian, Symposium, Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator), 37

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Lycinus

'Quite right, Cleodemus,’ said Hermon; ‘let them tell us why they condemn pleasure, and yet expect more of it than any one else.’ ‘No, no,’ says Zenothemis; ‘you give us your grounds, Cleodemus, for saying wealth is not a thing indifferent. ‘No, I tell you; let us have your case.? So the see-saw went on, till Ion came out of his retirement and called a truce: ‘I will give you,’ he said, ‘a theme worthy of the occasion; and you shall speak and listen without trying for personal triumphs; take a leaf from our Plato this time.’ ‘Hear, hear,’ from the company, especially from Aristaenetus and Eucritus, who hailed this escape from unpleasantness. The former now went back to his own place, confident of peace.

Symposium. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

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A Feast of Lapithae (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 4. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

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Συμπόσιον ἢ Λαπίθαι Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 1. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1913.) — 37 focus

Λυκῖνος

καὶ ὁ Ἕρμων, εὖ γε, ἔφη, ὦ Κλεόδημε, εἰπάτωσαν οὗτινος ἕνεκα ἡδονῆς κατηγοροῦσιν αὐτοὶ ἥδεσθαι ὑπὲρ τοὺς ἄλλους ἀξιοῦντες. οὔκ, ἀλλὰ σύ, ἦ δʼ ὃς ὁ Ζηνόθεμις, εἰπέ, ὦ Κλεόδημε, καθʼ ὅ τι οὐκ ἀδιάφορον ἡγῇ τὸν πλοῦτον. οὐ μὲν οὖν, ἀλλὰ σύ. καὶ ἐπὶ πολὺ τοῦτο ἦν, ἄχρι δὴ ὁ Ἴων προκύψας ἐς τὸ ἐμφανέστερον, παύσασθε, ἔφη· ἐγὼ δέ, εἰ δοκεῖ, λόγων ἀφορμὰς ὑμῖν ἀξίων τῆς παρούσης ἑορτῆς καταθήσω ἐς τὸ μέσον· ὑμεῖς δὲ ἀφιλονείκως ἐρεῖτε καὶ ἀκούσεσθε ὥσπερ ἀμέλει καὶ παρὰ τῷ ἡμετέρῳ Πλάτωνι ἐν λόγοις ἡ πλείστη διατριβὴ ἐγένετο. πάντες ἐπῄνεσαν οἱ παρόντες, καὶ μάλιστα οἱ ἀμφὶ τὸν Ἀρισταίνετόν τε καὶ Εὔκριτον, ἀπαλλάξεσθαι τῆς ἀηδίας οὕτω γοῦν ἐλπίσαντες. καὶ μετῆλθέ τε ὁ Ἀρισταίνετος ἐπὶ τὸν αὑτοῦ τόπον εἰρήνην γεγενῆσθαι ἐλπίσας,

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The Carousal, or the Lapiths Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 1. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1913.) — 37 focus

LYCINUS

“Bravo, Cleodemus,” said Hermon; “let them tell why they inveigh against pleasure when they themselves want to have more of it than the rest of mankind.” “No,” said Zenothemis, “but do you, Cleodemus, say why you hold that wealth is important.” “No, that is for you to do!” This went on for a long while, until Ion, bending forward to make himself more conspicuous, said: “Stop, and if you wish I will put before you a topic for a discussion worthy of the present festal day, and you shall talk and listen without quarrelling, exactly as in our Plato’s circle, where most of the time was passed in discussion.” All the guests applauded, especially Aristaenetus and Eucritus, who hoped at least to do away with the unpleasantness in that way. Aristaenetus went back to his own place, trusting that peace had been made.

Lucian Symposium 37

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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