Plato Republic 6.490

ed. John Burnet

Republic. Plato. ed. John Burnet. Oxford. 1905.

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Πολιτεία (Greek) (Platonis Opera Tomus IV: Tetralogia VIII. Burnet, John, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

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Republic Perseus (Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 5-6. Shorey, Paul, translator. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1935-37 (printing).) — 6.490 focus

Commentary

Commentary on Plato, Republic (Plato. The Republic, Vol 1-2. Adam, James, editor. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1902-1903.) focus

νῷ ἔχεις : ‘you remember.’ ἐν νῷ ἔχεις (as in some inferior MSS) would mean ‘you intend.’ Compare Euthyph. 2 B with Ap. 20 B . The reference is to 485 B—487 A.

ἤ =‘alioquin.’ Cf. V 463 D note

οὕτω κτλ. οὕτω “ex Adimanti verbis repetitum et praecise dictum est pro οὕτω λεγόμενον ἦν.” If the word is genuine, it must be taken in this way. J. and C. translate “to say no more,” comparing ῥᾳδίως οὕτω and the like (see on II 377 B). But there appears to be no other instance of this idiomatic οὔτω with the adverb σφόδρα. οὑτωσὶ σφόδρα in Ar. Frogs 88 is quite different, in spite of Blaydes on Ar. Wasps 461 . It is just possible that οὕτω is an interpolation from οὕτω just before.

παρὰ δόξαν . By selecting this form of expression Plato “opinionibus opinionem tribuit” (Schneider), loosely enough, but the words are practically equivalent to ἐναντίον. παράδοξον would be somewhat easier, but the text is probably sound. For a similar pleonasm see my note on Crito 44 C.

δοκουμένοις . With the passive cf. X 612 D.

αὐτοῦ is masculine, and means Plato's καλὸς κἀγαθός, i.e. the philosopher, whom popular opinion regards as an ἀλαζών, if not as a liar.

ἆρ’ οὖν δὴ κτλ. ‘Shall we not then fairly plead that the true lover of learning was disposed by nature to strive towards Being and tarried not at the many particulars which are opined to be’ etc.? Socrates has just said that Truth is the leading attribute of the Philosopher. This proposition is challenged by public opinion ( παρὰ δόξαν τοῖς νῦν δοκουμένοις), and in support of it Socrates urges, what he had asserted before (485 A—C) that the philosopher is a lover of τὸ ὄν. εἴη (‘was,’ i.e. ‘is, as we saw’) would be the ‘philosophic imperfect’ in direct speech. For the rare change from ἦν to εἴη after a primary tense cf. Xen. Mem. I 2. 34 δῆλον (sc. ἐστὶν) ὅτι ἀφεκτέον εἴη τοῦ ὀρθῶς λέγειν, where εἴη stands for ἦν (the usual ‘erat’ for ‘esset’ with words denoting obligation or necessity) of the direct, and Plato Charm. 156 B λέγουσί που ὅτι οὐχ οἷόν τε αὐτοὺς μόνους ἐπιχειρεῖν τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς ἰᾶσθαι, ἀλλ’ ἀναγκαῖον εἴη ἅμα καὶ τὴν κεφαλὴν θεραπεύειν. (Madvig's insertion of ἄν after ἀναγκαῖον in this passage is without authority.) Cf. also II 361 C note The sequence is all the more easy with the philosophic imperfect because its very nature involves a reference to the past. Ast's conjecture ἀπελογησάμεθα is incorrect; for the philosopher's zeal for Being has not yet been urged in defence of the statement—now for the first time formally challenged— that Truth is his leading characteristic. Madvig conjectures ἀπελογισάμεθα, which Baiter adopts, although the word is wholly inappropriate here. Cf. X 607 B note

ξυγγενεῖ . νοῦς is akin to Being and the Eternal: cf. Phaed. 79 D , Tim. 90 A —C and infra X 611 E.

ᾧ πλησιάσας κτλ. : ‘whereby having come nigh unto and married with true Being, begetting Reason and Truth, he attained unto knowledge and enjoyed true life and nourishment, and then but not before ceased from travail of the soul.’ The mystic union of the Soul with Being is here described in passionate and glowing language. Cf. Phaedr. 246 E —247 D, Symp. 210 A —212 A, and many parallels in Plotinus, for whom, as for the Neoplatonists generally, the mystic side of Platonism had an extraordinary fascination: see Zeller^{3} III 2, pp. 611—618. The imagery should be compared with Theaet. 156 A ff. where the phenomena of Perception are thus analysed. The Subject unites with the Object, and from this union are born two children, one the αἴσθησις e.g. Sight, the other the αἰσθητόν e.g. τὸ μέλαν. The former belongs more peculiarly to the Subject, the latter to the Object. Similarly with the phenomena of Knowledge. The Subject unites with the Idea, and the children of this union are νοῦς (or rather, strictly speaking, νόησις i.e. the action of νοῦς), on the side of the Subject, and the νοητόν, i.e. Truth, on the side of the Object. We miss an essential point if we take νοῦν as the object of Knowledge; it is the faculty of Reason, no longer dormant, but suddenly called into actuality. Plato means that Reason does not really live until it lays hold on the Idea. γνοίη corresponds to νοῦν; it is by the begetting of νοῦς that we come to know. The aorist denotes the instantaneous act; cf. Symp. 210 E πρὸς τέλος ἤδη ἰὼν—ἐξαίφνης κατόψεταί τι θαυμαστὸν τὴν φύσιν καλόν κτλ. See also on 508 D and cf. VII 517 C. In like manner ἀληθῶς ζῴη balances ἀλήθειαν: there is no true life without knowledge of the Truth. ἀληθῶς goes also with τρέφοιτο: cf. Phaedr. 247 D and 248 B, C. With ὠδῖνος cf. Phaedr. 251 E ( ὠδίνων ἔληξεν) and Symp. 206 E . It is tempting to suppose that in ὠδῖνος Plato is thinking not merely of the lover's pangs, but also of the pangs of birth. The knowledge of the Idea is indeed in Plato's view an intellectual and moral regeneration. But ἀπολήγοι τοῦ ἔρωτος shews that ὠδῖνος means the throes of love; and the further view introduces a confusion of ideas which is alien to the peculiar character of Plato's ‘mysticism.’

μετέσται . With μετέσται cf. X 606 B λογίζεσθαι γὰρ—ὀλίγοις τισὶ μέτ‐ εστιν and Theaet. 186 E . τι is adverbial and does not go with ψεῦδος. There is no occasion for Madvig's conjecture ἐπιμελὲς ἔσται: nor need we write ψεύδους, as I formerly proposed.

ἡγουμένης κτλ. ‘Now where Truth was leader’ (as we saw it was with the φιλόσοφος) ‘we shall never, I think, allow that a quire of evils joined her train.’ ἡγουμένης is not the present, but the imperfect participle (cf. ἡγεῖτο δ’ αὐτῷ—ἀλήθεια 490 A): the ‘philosophic’ past is carried on from the earlier sentence. The tense is strictly to the point, for our ἀπολογία is not yet finished: see 490 A note We ought not to regard ἀκολουθῆσαι (with Goodwin MT. p. 55) as a gnomic aorist: still less should we read ἀκολουθήσειν with q, or φαμεν for θαῖμεν (Stobaeus Flor. 11. 18 and Vind. F), taking ἄν with ἀκολουθῆσαι (as I formerly suggested). The past tense is the only one appropriate to the situation both in Greek and in English. See also on line 17.

ἦθος : sc. ἀκολουθῆσαι. These ‘joined the train’ of virtue at 486 B.

καὶ δὴ κτλ. καί is ‘also’ and goes with τὸν ἄλλον: cf. καὶ—δή in 494 A.

ἀναγκάζοντα has been doubted. It is read by all the MSS except Ξ, which has ἀναλαμβάνοντα (cf. 490 D). Stallbaum accepts ἀναλαμβάνοντα, while Baiter adopts Madvig's picturesque conjecture ἀναβιβάζοντα. The text is perfectly sound. ἀναγκάζοντα is ἀναγκάζοντα τῷ λόγῳ, i.e. λέγων ἀναγκαῖα εἶναι, ‘insisting on their necessity’: see on II 363 D ( ἀποτίνουσιν) and cf. X 611 B and Theaet. 153 C (where Cobet wrongly brackets ἀναγκάζω). Much the same view is taken by Jackson ( J. of Ph. XIII p. 218), who compares 486 E μή πῃ δοκοῦμέν σοι οὐκ ἀναγκαῖα ἕκαστα διεληλυθέναι. J. and C.'s translation “compelling your assent” is scarcely accurate here.

φαίη . In 487 C we have φαίη ἄν τις, and Richards would add ἄν here. But the hypothetical critic (with whom Socrates himself agrees 487 E) is now treated as what he really is—the exponent of opinions held by all. We should translate ‘after you objected that all men would be compelled to agree with what we say, but when they set words aside, and looked at the actual people of whom the argument spoke, they declared that’ etc. For φαίη after ἀναγκασθήσεται (rather than ἀναγκασθήσοιτο) see Kühner Gr. Gr. II p. 1061.

τῆς διαβολῆς . Π and the majority of MSS have τῆς ἤδη διαβολῆς. If ἤδη is right, it must, I think, be taken with τῆς διαβολῆς in the sense of ‘ea διαβολή quae iam apparebat et in conspectum venerat, cum antea animadversa non fuisset’ (so Bernhardy and Schneider Addit. p. 46). Even so, it is harsh, but not so harsh as if we take it with ἐπισκοποῦντες, as Stallbaum—and formerly Schneider—did. So extreme a hyperbaton would be more difficult than that in Soph. O. T. 1245 , and scarcely admissible in prose. Perhaps Plato wrote τῆς διαβολῆς ἤδη. Otherwise we must suppose that A and other MSS are right in omitting the word.

τὰς μιμουμένας κτλ. Plato distinguishes between two kinds of πονηρία, that which results from the corruption of the truly philosophic nature, and the πονηρία of pretenders to philosophy. It is the latter—so we are told—which is responsible for the prejudice under which Philosophy labours (cf. 489 D): but the former is by far the more serious evil (491 E, 495 B), though engendered, not by Philosophy, but by the seductive influence of public opinion.