Plato Republic 7.520

Paul Shorey (Translator)

Republic. Plato. Paul Shorey (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1935-37.

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Republic (English) (Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 5-6. Shorey, Paul, translator. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1935-37 (printing).)

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Πολιτεία Perseus (Platonis Opera Tomus IV: Tetralogia VIII. Burnet, John, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.) — 7.520 focus

Notes on the current edition

Republic

1. Noblesse oblige. This idea is now a commonplace of communist orations.
2. αὐτόματοι Cf. Protag. 320 A, Euthyd. 282 C. For the thought that there are a few men naturally good in any state cf. also Laws 951 B, 642 C-D.
3. Cf. Isoc. Archidamus 108
ἀποδῶμεν τὰ τροφεῖα τῇ πατρίδι
. Stallbaum refers also to Phoenissae 44. For the country as τροφός see Vol. I. p. 303, note e on 414 E.
4. Cf. Polit. 301 D-E, Xen. Cyr. v.1.24, Oecon. 7.32-33.
5. For τελεώτερον . . . πεπαιδευμένους Cf. Prot. 342 E
τελέως πεπαιδευμένου
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6. They must descend into the cave again. Cf. 539 E and Laws 803 B-C. Cf. Burnet, Early Greek Philos. 89-90:
it was he alone, so far as we know, that insisted on philosophers descending by turns into the cave from which they had been released and coming to the help of their former fellow-prisoners.
He agrees with Stewart ( Myths of Plato, p. 252, n. 2) that Plato had in mind the Orphic κατάβασις εἰς Ἅιδου to rescue the spirits in prison. Cf. Wright, Harvard Studies, xvii. p. 139 and Complete Poems of Henry More, pp. xix-xx
All which is agreeable to that opinion of Plato: That some descend hither to declare the Being and Nature of the Gods; and for the greater Health, Purity and Perfection of this Lower World.
This is taking Plato somewhat too literally and confusing him with Plotinus.
7. For μυρίῳ cf. Eurip. Androm. 701.
8. i.e. images, Bacon’s idols of the den.
9. Plato is fond of the contrast, ὕπαρ . . . ὄναρ. Cf. 476 C, Phaedr. 277 D, Phileb. 36 E, 65 E, Polit. 277 D, 278 E, Theaet. 158 B, Rep. 574 D, 576 B, Tim. 71 E, Laws 969 B, also 533 B-C.
10. Cf. on 586 C, p. 393.
11. Cf. on 517 C, p. 131, note 3.
12. The world of ideas, the upper world as opposed to that of the cave. Cf. Stallbaum ad loc.
13. Cf. Vol. I. p. 80, note b on 347 C.

Commentary

Commentary on Plato, Republic (Plato. The Republic, Vol 1-2. Adam, James, editor. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1902-1903.) focus

ὥσπερ ἐν σμήνεσιν κτλ. is probably a Socratic comparison: cf. Xen. Cyr. V 1. 24 (quoted by Ast) βασιλεὺς μὲν γὰρ ἔμοιγε δοκεῖς σὺ πεφυκέναι οὐδὲν ἧττον ἢ ὁ ἐν τῷ σμήνει φυόμενος τῶν μελιττῶν ἡγεμών. See also Pöhlmann Gesch. d. ant. Komm. p. 134 note