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Yes, indeed, Socrates, he said, I will tell you my own feeling about it. 329a For it often happens that some of us elders of about the same age come together and verify 1 the old saw of like to like. At these reunions most of us make lament, longing for the lost joys of youth and recalling to mind the pleasures of wine, women, and feasts, and other things thereto appertaining, and they repine in the belief that the greatest things have been taken from them and that then they lived well and now it is no life at all. 2 And some of them 329b complain of the indignities that friends and kinsmen put upon old age and thereto recite a doleful litany 3 of all the miseries for which they blame old age. But in my opinion, Socrates, they do not put the blame on the real cause. 4 For if it were the cause I too should have had the same experience so far as old age is concerned, and so would all others who have come to this time of life. But in fact I have ere now met with others who do not feel in this way, and in particular I remember hearing Sophocles the poet greeted by a fellow who asked, 329c How about your service of Aphrodite, Sophocles—is your natural force still unabated? And he replied, Hush, man, most gladly have I escaped this thing you talk of, as if I had run away from a raging and savage beast of a master. 5 I thought it a good answer then and now I think so still more. For in very truth there comes to old age a great tranquillity in such matters and a blessed release. When the fierce tensions 6 of the passions and desires relax, then is the word of Sophocles approved, 329d and we are rid of many and mad 7 masters. But indeed in respect of these complaints and in the matter of our relations with kinsmen and friends there is just one cause, Socrates—not old age, but the character of the man. For if men are temperate and cheerful 8 even old age is only moderately burdensome. But if the reverse, old age, Socrates, and youth are hard for such dispositions.
And I was filled with admiration 9 for the man by these words, and desirous of hearing more I tried to draw him out and said, I fancy, 329e Cephalus, that most people, when they hear you talk in this way, are not convinced but think that you bear old age lightly not because of your character but because of your wealth. For the rich, they say, have many consolations. 10
Yes, indeed, Socrates, he said, I will tell you my own feeling about it. 329a For it often happens that some of us elders of about the same age come together and verify 1 the old saw of like to like. At these reunions most of us make lament, longing for the lost joys of youth and recalling to mind the pleasures of wine, women, and feasts, and other things thereto appertaining, and they repine in the belief that the greatest things have been taken from them and that then they lived well and now it is no life at all. 2 And some of them 329b complain of the indignities that friends and kinsmen put upon old age and thereto recite a doleful litany 3 of all the miseries for which they blame old age. But in my opinion, Socrates, they do not put the blame on the real cause. 4 For if it were the cause I too should have had the same experience so far as old age is concerned, and so would all others who have come to this time of life. But in fact I have ere now met with others who do not feel in this way, and in particular I remember hearing Sophocles the poet greeted by a fellow who asked, 329c How about your service of Aphrodite, Sophocles—is your natural force still unabated? And he replied, Hush, man, most gladly have I escaped this thing you talk of, as if I had run away from a raging and savage beast of a master. 5 I thought it a good answer then and now I think so still more. For in very truth there comes to old age a great tranquillity in such matters and a blessed release. When the fierce tensions 6 of the passions and desires relax, then is the word of Sophocles approved, 329d and we are rid of many and mad 7 masters. But indeed in respect of these complaints and in the matter of our relations with kinsmen and friends there is just one cause, Socrates—not old age, but the character of the man. For if men are temperate and cheerful 8 even old age is only moderately burdensome. But if the reverse, old age, Socrates, and youth are hard for such dispositions.
And I was filled with admiration 9 for the man by these words, and desirous of hearing more I tried to draw him out and said, I fancy, 329e Cephalus, that most people, when they hear you talk in this way, are not convinced but think that you bear old age lightly not because of your character but because of your wealth. For the rich, they say, have many consolations. 10
Republic. Plato. Paul Shorey (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1935-37.
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