Plato Protagoras 355

ed. John Burnet

Protagoras. Plato. ed. John Burnet. Oxford. 1903.

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Πρωταγόρας (Greek) (Platonis Opera, Tomus III: Tetralogia V-VII. Burnet, John, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1903.)

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Protagoras Perseus (Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 2. Lamb, W.R.M., translator. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1924 (printing).) — 355 focus

Commentary

Commentary on Plato, Protagoras (Plato. Platonis Protagoras. Adam, James; Adam, Adela Marion, editors. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1921.) focus

ἢ τὸ κακὸν ἄλλο τι . B and T have ἤ before ἄλλο τι by a natural mistake: it is corrected in T by a later hand.

ἄνθρωπος : so the MSS., but ὁ ἄνθρωπος in line 80. Kroschel refers to the variation in 321D ἄνθρωπον—τῷ ἀνθρώπῳ —ἀνθρώπω?—ἄνθρωπος . Cf. below 355E

καὶ αὖθις αὖ λέγετε . We should of course expect λέγητε , but the second part of a logically subordinate clause in Greek tends to become an independent clause: see on 313A

ὑπὸ μὲν ἡδονῆς . The antithesis is not expressed by a δέ clause but in ἐκείνῳ δὴ—τοῦ ἀγαθοῦ below.

μετείληφεν : the subject is ἡδονή and τὸ ἀγαθόν is in apposition to ἄλλο ὄνομα. ἀντὶ τῆς ἡδονῆς means ‘in place of pleasure’, i.e. the name pleasure.

ἐν ὑμῖν : not ‘before your tribunal’, but ‘in you’, i.e. inside you, in your souls. The idea is of a conflict between the good and evil in the soul before you do the evil. ἐν ὑμῖν might have been ἐν αὐτῶ? , but the ὑβριστής now selects his interlocutors as his examples. The subtle reasoning which follows may be put thus: We do evil, knowing it to be evil, because we are overcome by good. But—since that which we do is evil—the good which overcomes is less worthy than the evil in us which it overcomes. ‘Less worthy’ (to overcome) means that ‘there is less of it’: to be overcome by good is therefore to choose less good than evil. The argument is extraordinarily ingenious but hardly sound— the flaw lies in substituting ‘the evil in us’ for ‘us’; it was not ‘the evil in us’, but ‘we’ who were overcome by good. See also Introduction, p. xxvi. The usual way of taking ἐν ὑμῖν as ‘before your tribunal’ or the like (cf. Gorg. 464D ) makes the false step much more serious—since it substitutes not ‘the evil in us’ but simply ‘the evil’ for ‘us’.

ἀνάξιά ἐστιν τἀγαθὰ τῶν κακῶν should be translated literally—‘the good is unworthy of the bad’. The expression— in Greek as in English—is somewhat strained in order to correspond to οὐκ ἀξίων above (l. 17); but after all ‘I am unworthy of you’ is much the same as ‘I am less worthy than you’. The Greeks can even use ἀνάξιος in the sense of ‘more worthy than’, ‘too good for’: e.g. Soph. Philoct. 1009.

τὰ μὲν μείζω—ᾖ : i.e. when τὰ κακά are μείζω and τὰ ἀγαθὰ σμικρότερα , then τἀγαθά are ἀνάξια τῶν κακῶν : τὰ κακά are ἀνάξια τῶν ἀγαθῶν , when τὰ ἀγαθά are μείζω , and τὰ κακὰ σμικρότερα . Similarly with πλείω and ἐλάττω . It must be borne in mind that ἄξιος does not here denote moral, but rather physical strength or value: good is ἀνάξιον κακοῦ , because it is smaller or less numerous.

πλείω, τὰ δὲ ἐλάττω ᾖ . See on 330A

μεταλάβωμεν , i.e. ‘let us change and take the names pleasant and painful and apply them to, etc.’ Cf. below 356D ἐπί follows ὀνόματα as in τίθεσθαι ὄνομα ἐπί τινι and the like.