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Clouds. Aristophanes. . 2026-09-08.

Current edition Experimental

Commentary (Sanjaya, generated; selected passages) (OCR draft) (English) (Source: pnadelofficial/aristophanes-sanjaya, commit c319590c139e5603e71f0699caa0663d823af8ad. Machine-generated source annotations retained; see Sanjaya import audit for coverage and limitations.)

Provisional text from uncorrected OCR; expect errors.

Editions (1)
Νεφέλαι Perseus (Aristophanes. Aristophanis Comoediae, Vol. 1. Hall, F. W. and Geldart, William M., editors. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1906.) — 0-261 focus
Translations (2)
Clouds Perseus (Aristophanes. The Comedies of Aristophanes, Vol. I. Hickie, William James, translator. Bohn: London, 1853.) — 56 focus
English (Sanjaya, generated; selected passages) (OCR draft) Experimental (Source: pnadelofficial/aristophanes-sanjaya, commit c319590c139e5603e71f0699caa0663d823af8ad. Machine-generated source annotations retained; see Sanjaya import audit for coverage and limitations.) — 56 focus

Commentary

Commentary (Sanjaya, generated; selected passages) (OCR draft) (Source: pnadelofficial/aristophanes-sanjaya, commit c319590c139e5603e71f0699caa0663d823af8ad. Machine-generated source annotations retained; see Sanjaya import audit for coverage and limitations.) focus

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ἐγὼ δὲ τοῦ πάππου ʼτιθέμην Φειδωνίδην.
The genitive τοῦ πάππου is not merely possessive but denotes the specific familial line or house (the Φειδωνίδαι) from which the speaker claims descent. In Old Comedy, this construction often signals a claim to aristocratic lineage or a specific political faction, here likely alluding to the Pheidonid clan, a prominent family in Athenian history known for figures like Pheidon of Argos (though the Athenian connection is the point of the joke or claim). The use of the proper name in the genitive as a substantive (Φειδωνίδην) functioning as the predicate of ʼτιθέμην (I was counted/set as) is a concise way of asserting identity within that lineage, a rhetorical device common in self-definition within the parabasis or character introductions.