Sophocles Electra 214

Thomas Francklin (Translator)

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Orestes
I could unfold a tale. But — say, these
virgins.
May I depend on them?

Electra. Sophocles. Thomas Francklin (Translator). London. 1758–1759.

Current edition Experimental

English (Thomas Francklin, 1758–1759) (OCR draft) (English) (English (Thomas Francklin, 1758–1759))

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Editions (2)
Greek (Lewis Campbell, 1879) (OCR draft) Experimental (Greek (Lewis Campbell, 1879)) — 214 focus
οὐ γνώμαν ἴσχεις ἐξ οἵων
Greek (F. Storr, 1912) (OCR draft) Experimental (Greek (F. Storr, 1912)) — 251-471 focus
Translations (4)
English (Lewis Campbell, 1906) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Lewis Campbell, 1906)) — 214 focus
EL
What, stranger? How this terror steals on me!
German (J. J. C. Donner, 1875; OCR review) (OCR draft) Experimental (German (J. J. C. Donner, 1875; OCR review)) — 213 focus
Halt' ein, halt' ein! Nicht weiter!
Sieht nicht dein Herz, daß also nur
Von den Höhen des Glücks in entehrende Schmach
Dein heftiger Sinn dich hinabstürzt?
Denn größeres Leid noch schufest du dir,
210
Weil rastlos dein mißmuthiger Geist
Sich Fehden gebar: mit den Mächtigen, Kind,
Darfst du so nicht hadern.
English (Robert Potter, 1788) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Robert Potter, 1788)) — 214 focus
Orestes
Give back that urn
1205
And thou shalt know the whole.
1205
English (Sir Richard Jebb, 1904) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Sir Richard Jebb, 1904)) — 251-470 focus

Commentary

Commentary (R. C. Jebb) (OCR draft) (Commentary (R. C. Jebb))

mvp-comment-679-1 τοῖσι σοῖς 1 τοῖς ἴσοις 2

mvp-comment-679-2 The word ξυγγενὴς 3 τοῖσι σοῖς 4 τοῖς ἴσοις 5

Commentary (Lewis Campbell, 1879) (OCR draft) (Commentary (Lewis Campbell, 1879)) focus

1201. mvp-comment-575-1 (1) 'I am the only one who brings with him a feeling of the same misfortunes.' τοῖς ἴσοις, like τῶν ἴσων, supr. 1168, implies rather 'identity' than 'equality.' Orestes does not mean that his personal sufferings have been like Electra's, but first that in the essential point, viz. that their father has been murdered and is unavenged, they share equally in the same sorrow, and also that her sorrows are felt by him as his own. Cp. Aesch. Cho. 222, 3, ΗΛ. ἀλλ᾽ ἐν κακοῖσι τοῖς ἐμοῖς γελᾶν θέλεις. ΟΡ. κἀν τοῖς ἐμοῖς ἄρ᾽, εἴπερ ἔν γε τοῖσι σοῖς ( ubi τοῖς ἴσοις M. pr.). This parallel favours the other reading here, (2) τοῖσι σοῖς, which, as Prof. Paley argues, gives a simpler meaning, and may also be thought more pathetic. But it is less in keeping with the subtle gradations of this recognition-scene.