Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War 3.68.1

Friedrich Haase (Translator)

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History of the Peloponnesian War. Thucydides. Friedrich Haase (Translator). Paris. 1869.

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Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci (Latin) (Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci. Haase, Friedrich, translator. Paris: Firmin Didot, 1869.)

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Ἱστορίαι Perseus (Thucydides. Historiae, Vol 1-2. Jones, Henry Stuart, editor. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1910. (1942 printing).) — 3.68.1 focus
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The History of the Grecian War Perseus (Thucydides. The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury. Hobbes, Thomas. translator. London: John Bohn, 1843.) — 3.68.1 focus
History of the Peloponnesian War Perseus (Thucydides. History of the Peloponnesian War. Crawley, Richard, translator. London and Toronto: J. M. Dent and Sons Ltd.; New York: E. P. Dutton and Co., 1914.) — 3.68.1 focus
Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs First1KGreek (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Wahrmund, Adolf, translator. Stuttgart: Krais and Hoffmann, 1864.) — 3.68 focus
Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs First1KGreek (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Braun, Theodor, translator. Leipzig: Insel-Verlag, 1917.) — 3.68 focus
Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponèse First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése, Vol. 1-2. Zévort, Marie Charles, translator. Paris: Charpentier, 1852.) — 3.68 focus
Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése. Bétant, Élie-Ami, translator. Paris: Librairie de L. Hachette, 1863.) — 3.68 focus
History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides, Vol. 1-4. Smith, Charles Foster, translator. London and Cambridge, MA: Heinemann and Harvard University Press, 1919-1923.) — 3.68.1 focus
History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides. The history of the Peloponnesian War, Volume 1-2. Dale, Henry, translator. London: Heinemann and Henry G. Bohn, 1851-1852.) — 3.68.1 focus
Vier Staatsreden aus Thucydides First1KGreek (Thucydides. Vier Staatsreden aus Thucydides. Gürsching, Heinrich, translator. Augsburg: Wirth, 1856.) — 2.64.1 focus
La storia di Tucidide First1KGreek (Thucydides. Della storia di Tucidide volgarizzata libri otto. Anonymous translator. Florence: Tipografia Galileiana, 1835.) — 3.68 focus

Commentary

Commentary on Thucydides: Book 3 (Thucydides, Book III. Marchant, Edgar C., editor. London: Macmillan and Company, 1909.) focus

εἰ . . πεπόνθασι is the ἐπερώτημα.

τὸν ἄλλον χρόνον —‘all along.’

δῆθεν —always ironical, signifying that this is not the true reason.

μετὰ τὸν Μῆδον —usually μετὰ τὰ Μηδικά.

καὶ (

ἠξίουν )

ὅτε . . οὐκ ἐδέξαντο —it is impossible to make grammar of the sentence with ὅτε . . ἃ . . ὡς in. Each word has been altered: the removal of ἃ seems most likely; ‘and particularly, when afterwards the offer that they made of remaining neutral according to that convention was refused.’

ἡγούμενοι —this gives the reason for νομιζοντες . . ἐδέξαντο.

τῇ . . βουλήσει —‘by their own just intention,’ i.e. they had tried their best to conform to the σπονδαί: it was the fault of the Plat. that the Lac. have fair grounds for regarding the σπονδαί at an end.

τὸ αὐτό —obj. of ἐρωτῶντες, so that παραγαγόντες καί breaks the constr.; cf. Soph Antig. 1279 τὰ δ’ ἐν δόμοις | ἔοικας ἤκειν καὶ τάχ’ ὄψεσθαι κακά, where τὰ δ’ ἐν δ. is governed by ὅψεσθαι.

ἠνδραπόδισαν —‘sold as slaves.’ From II. 78 we know that 110 women were among the besieged Plat. (all the others had found refuge at Athens) and that these were all slaves already.

Θηβαῖοι —removed by Classen, who maintained that the true subj. of ἔδοσαν is the Lac.; but cf. c. 58, 5 εί . . χώραν τὴν Πλαταιίδα Θηβαΐδα ποιήσετε. τὰ σφέτερα certainly seems to refer to the Thebans (cf. II. 2 ). (Herbst and Busolt defend the MS. reading.)

κατὰ στάσιν —the circumstances are unknown.

ἐκ τῶν θεμελίων —take with ᾠκοδόμησαν.

πρὸς τῷ Ἡραίῳ —the site of the Heraeum and remains of the νεὼς λίθινος have in all probability been discovered ( Am. J. of Archacol. 1891). It is likely that the temple previously existing was pulled down and replaced by the new one mentioned here.

καταγώγιον —for those who came to worship at the temple: otherwise they would have had no shelter after the destruction of the city.

πανταχῇ is put with διακοσίων ποδῶν (200 ft. square) by some edd., but more prob. belongs to κύκλῳ=‘all round,’ as in VII. 79.

οἰκήματα —for sleeping: they were in two stories.

τοῖς ἄλλοις —instrumental, with κατασκευάσαντες.

τείχει —i.e. inside the city. The sacred precinct lay ‘before the city’ (Herod. IX. 61).

καί —intensive.

ἄρτι τότε καθιστάμενον refers to the fall of Plat., not to the beginning of the siege. Cf. c. 3, 1.

τρίτῳ καὶ ἐνενηκοστῷ —519-427 B.C. But Grote showed that 509 B C. was the probable year of the alliance; hence it has been suggested that ἐνενηκοστῷ is due to an early error in an uncial MS., and that Thuc. wrote the uncial signs for ὀγδοηκοστῷ.

ἐπειδή —cf. I. 6 οὐ πολλα ἔτη ἐπειδὴ πέπαυται.