Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, Anonymous (Translator), 3.8

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Frattanto arrivano ad Olimpia gli ambasciatori dei Mililenei spediti sulla prima nave, secondo gli ordini avuti dai Lacedemoni di presentarsi ad Olimpia , affinchè gli altri confederati non entrassero in deliberazione prima di aver sentito anche loro. Era l’Olimpiade, nella quale Rodio dorico riportava la seconda volta vittoria. E poiché , finita la festa, furono ammessi all’ udienza, parlarono così.

History of the Peloponnesian War. Thucydides. Anonymous (Translator). Florence. 1835.

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La storia di Tucidide (Italian) (Thucydides. Della storia di Tucidide volgarizzata libri otto. Anonymous translator. Florence: Tipografia Galileiana, 1835.)

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Ἱστορίαι Perseus (Thucydides. Historiae, Vol 1-2. Jones, Henry Stuart, editor. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1910. (1942 printing).) — 3.8.1 focus

[1] οἱ δὲ ἐπὶ τῆς πρώτης νεὼς ἐκπεμφθέντες Μυτιληναίων πρέσβεις, ὡς αὐτοῖς οἱ Λακεδαιμόνιοι εἶπον Ὀλυμπίαζε παρεῖναι, ὅπως καὶ οἱ ἄλλοι ξύμμαχοι ἀκούσαντες βουλεύσωνται, ἀφικνοῦνται ἐς τὴν Ὀλυμπίαν· ἦν δὲ Ὀλυμπιὰς ᾗ Δωριεὺς Ῥόδιος τὸ δεύτερον ἐνίκα.

[2] καὶ ἐπειδὴ μετὰ τὴν ἑορτὴν κατέστησαν ἐς λόγους, εἶπον τοιάδε.

Translations (10)

The History of the Grecian War Perseus (Thucydides. The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury. Hobbes, Thomas. translator. London: John Bohn, 1843.) — 3.8.1 focus

[1] Now the ambassadors of the Mytilenaeans that went out in the first galley, having been referred by the Lacedaemonians to the general meeting of the Grecians at Olympia to the end they might determine of them together with the rest of the confederates, went to Olympia accordingly. It was that Olympiad wherein Dorieus of Rhodes was the second time victor.

[2] And when after the solemnity they were set in council, the ambassadors spake unto them in this manner:

History of the Peloponnesian War Perseus (Thucydides. History of the Peloponnesian War. Crawley, Richard, translator. London and Toronto: J. M. Dent and Sons Ltd.; New York: E. P. Dutton and Co., 1914.) — 3.8.1 focus

[1] Meanwhile the envoys of the Mitylenians sent out in the first ship were told by the Lacedaemonians to come to Olympia , in order that the rest of the allies might hear them and decide upon their matter, and so they journeyed thither. It was the Olympiad in which the Rhodian Dorieus gained his second victory,

[2] and the envoys having been introduced to make their speech after the festival, spoke as follows.

Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs First1KGreek (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Wahrmund, Adolf, translator. Stuttgart: Krais and Hoffmann, 1864.) — 3.8 focus

Die mit dem ersten Schiffe abgegangenen Gesandten der ¹
Mytilenäer begaben sich nach Olympia, da die Lakedämonier sie auf«²
gefordert hatten, dorthin zu gehen, damit auch die anderen
Bundesgenossen sie anhören und danach Beschluß fassen könnten. Es war dieß
die Olympiade, in der Dorieus aus Rhodos zum zweiten Male den
Siegerpreis gewann ?). Nachdem nun die Festlichkeiten vorüber waren,
traten sie auf und redeten also:

Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs First1KGreek (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Braun, Theodor, translator. Leipzig: Insel-Verlag, 1917.) — 3.8 focus

Die mit dem ersten Schiffe abgegangenen Gesandten der
Mytilener hatten sich nach Olympia begeben, da die Lake
dämonier sie aufgefordert hatten, sich auch dort einzusinden,
damit die übrigen Bundesgenossen ihre Wünsche ebenfalls
vernehmen und in Erwägung ziehen könnten. Es war die
Olympiade, in der Dorieus aus Rhodos zum zweitenmal siegte.
Nach Beendigung der Festlichkeiten wurden sie vorgelassen
und hielten folgende Rede:

Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponèse First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése, Vol. 1-2. Zévort, Marie Charles, translator. Paris: Charpentier, 1852.) — 3.8 focus

VIII. Les députés mytiléniens envoyés sur le premicr vaisseau reçurent des Lacédémoniens l’invitation de se rendre à Olympie, pour que le reste des alliés pût délibérer après les avoir entendus. Ils y allèrent en effet : c’était l’olympiade dans laquelle Doriée de Rhodes fut vainqueur pour la seconde fois¹. Après la fête, la délibération s’ouvrit, et ils parlèrent ainsi :

Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése. Bétant, Élie-Ami, translator. Paris: Librairie de L. Hachette, 1863.) — 3.8 focus

Cependant les députés de Mytilène partis sur le premier vaisseau s’étaient rendus à Olympie, d’après l’invitation des Lacédémoniens, qui voulaient que tous les alliés les entendissent et délibérassent sur leur requête. C’était l’olympiade où Doriéus de Rhode fut vainqueur pour la seconde fois ¹. Après la fête, on se réunit en conférence, et les Mytiléniens parlèrent ainsi :

History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides, Vol. 1-4. Smith, Charles Foster, translator. London and Cambridge, MA: Heinemann and Harvard University Press, 1919-1923.) — 3.8.1 focus

[1] Meanwhile the Mytilenaean envoys who had been sent on the first ship, having been told by the Lacedaemonians to present themselves at Olympia, in order that the other members of the alliance also might hear them and take counsel, came to Olympia. It was the Olympiad in which Dorieus¹ the Rhodian won his second victory.

[2] After the festival the Peloponnesians met in council, and the envoys spoke as follows:

History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides. The history of the Peloponnesian War, Volume 1-2. Dale, Henry, translator. London: Heinemann and Henry G. Bohn, 1851-1852.) — 3.8.1 focus

[1] Now the ambassadors of the Mytilenaeans sent out in the first ship, being told by the Lacedaemonians to come to Olympia, in order that the rest of the confederates also might hear and consult upon their case, accordingly went thither. It was the Olympiad at which Dorieus the Rhodian gained his second victory.

[2] And when after the festival they came to a conference, the envoys spoke as follows:

Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci First1KGreek (Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci. Haase, Friedrich, translator. Paris: Firmin Didot, 1869.) — 3.8.1 focus

[1] Legati vero Mytilenaeorum, qui in prima navi missi erant, ut eos Lacedaemonii jusserant, Olympiam venire, ut ceteri quoque socii illis auditis consultarent, Olympiam iverunt; erat autem Olympias, qua Dorieus Rhodius iterum vincebat.

[2] Quumque post solennem illius festi celebrationem in colloquium venissent, in hunc modum verba fecerunt.

Vier Staatsreden aus Thucydides First1KGreek (Thucydides. Vier Staatsreden aus Thucydides. Gürsching, Heinrich, translator. Augsburg: Wirth, 1856.) — 2.35.1 focus

[1] Wenn es bisher bei den Rednern an dieser Stätte fast allgemeiner Brauch geworden, den Mann zu rühmen, der mit der Bestattung diese Rede verband, weil an dem Grabe gefallener Krieger ein ehrendes Wort sich zieme, so würde ich es für hinreichend gehalten haben, dass man Helden der That mit einer festlichen Handlung ehre, — wie das denn der Staat durch die Bestattung gethan hat, deren Zeugen ihr so eben gewesen — und würde die Verherrlichung so vieler Männer nicht einem Einzelnen und der zufälligen Wirkung seines Vortrags anheimgegeben haben.

Commentary

Commentary on Thucydides: Book 3 (Thucydides, Book III. Marchant, Edgar C., editor. London: Macmillan and Company, 1909.) focus

Δωριεύς —a Rhodian athlete, who won prodigious fame and became the typical Olympic victor. He was son of the Diagoras for whom Pindar wrote the seventh Olympian. Besides three Olympian victories he won many at the Isthmian and Nemean games. (References to his career: VIII. 35, Xen. Hell. I. 5, Pausan. II. 7. )

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