Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, Theodor Braun (Translator), 5.100

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Melier: „Nun denn, wenn ihr vor nichts zurückschreckt,
um eure Herrschaft zu behaupten, und die unabhängigen Völker
sich unbedenklich in Gefahr stürzen, um sie abzuschütteln, wäre
es da für uns, die wir noch frei sind, nicht die größte Schande,
wollten wir nicht lieber alleS wagen, als uns unters Joch be
geben?"

History of the Peloponnesian War. Thucydides. Theodor Braun (Translator). Leipzig. 1917.

Current edition First1KGreek

Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs (German) (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Braun, Theodor, translator. Leipzig: Insel-Verlag, 1917.)

Editions (1)

Ἱστορίαι Perseus (Thucydides. Historiae, Vol 1-2. Jones, Henry Stuart, editor. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1910. (1942 printing).) — 5.100.1 focus

ΜΗΛ.

ἦ που ἄρα, εἰ τοσαύτην γε ὑμεῖς τε μὴ παυθῆναι ἀρχῆς καὶ οἱ δουλεύοντες ἤδη ἀπαλλαγῆναι τὴν παρακινδύνευσιν ποιοῦνται, ἡμῖν γε τοῖς ἔτι ἐλευθέροις πολλὴ κακότης καὶ δειλία μὴ πᾶν πρὸ τοῦ δουλεῦσαι ἐπεξελθεῖν.

Translations (9)

The History of the Grecian War Perseus (Thucydides. The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury. Hobbes, Thomas. translator. London: John Bohn, 1843.) — 5.100.1 focus

[1] Mel. If you then to retain your command, and your vassals to get loose from you, will undergo the utmost of danger, would it not in us, that be already free, be great baseness and cowardice if we should not encounter anything whatsoever rather than suffer ourselves to be brought into bondage?

History of the Peloponnesian War Perseus (Thucydides. History of the Peloponnesian War. Crawley, Richard, translator. London and Toronto: J. M. Dent and Sons Ltd.; New York: E. P. Dutton and Co., 1914.) — 5.100.1 focus

‘Well then, if you risk so much to retain your empire, and your subjects to get rid of it, it were surely great baseness and cowardice in us who are still free not to try everything that can be tried, before submitting to your yoke.’

Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs First1KGreek (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Wahrmund, Adolf, translator. Stuttgart: Krais and Hoffmann, 1864.) — 5.100 focus

Melier:: „Nun wohl dennwenn ihr selbst um eure
Herrschaft nicht zu verlieren so Großes wagt, und die von euch schon.
Unterworfenen, um sich-von derselben zn befreien, so wäre, es ja doch
von uns, die wir noch frei sind,.g^oße Niederträchtigkeit und Feigheit,-
wenn'wir^nicht lieber Alles wagen wollten, nur um nicht Knechte
zu werden."

Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponèse First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése, Vol. 1-2. Zévort, Marie Charles, translator. Paris: Charpentier, 1852.) — 5.100 focus

C. L es M éliens. « Mais si tant de dangers sont bravés par vous pour maintenir votre domination, par ceux que vous avez déjà asservis, pour s’y soustraire, quelle faiblesse et quelle lâcheté à nous, qui sommes encore libres, de ne pas tout tenter avant de subir l’esclavage·!

Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése. Bétant, Élie-Ami, translator. Paris: Librairie de L. Hachette, 1863.) — 5.100 focus

Les Méliens. A coup sûr, puisque rien ne· coûte, à vous pour maintenir votre domination, à eux pour s’y soustraire, il y aurait bien de la faiblesse et de la lâcheté à nous qui sommes encore libres, à ne pas tout risquer plutôt que de tomber dans l’esclavage.

History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides, Vol. 1-4. Smith, Charles Foster, translator. London and Cambridge, MA: Heinemann and Harvard University Press, 1919-1923.) — 5.100.1 focus

[1] MEL. “Surely, then, if you and your subjects brave so great a risk, you in order that you may not lose your empire, and they, who are already your slaves, in order that they may be rid of it, for us surely who still have our freedom it would be the height of baseness and cowardice not to resort to every expedient before submitting to servitude.”

History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides. The history of the Peloponnesian War, Volume 1-2. Dale, Henry, translator. London: Heinemann and Henry G. Bohn, 1851-1852.) — 5.100.1 focus

[1] Mel.

Surely then, if you run such a risk not to be deprived of your empire, and those who are already in subjection, to be released from it; for us who are still free it were great baseness and cowardice not to have recourse to every thing before we submit to it.

Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci First1KGreek (Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci. Haase, Friedrich, translator. Paris: Firmin Didot, 1869.) — 5.100.1 focus

[1] Mel. Profecto igitur, si et vos, ne imperio spoliemiui, et illi, qui vestro imperio jam serviunt, ut liberentur, tantuiu discrimen adeunt, nobis quidem, qui adhuc liberi sumus, magna nequitia et ignavia imputanda sit, si non ad omnia prius descenderimus quam serviamus.

La storia di Tucidide First1KGreek (Thucydides. Della storia di Tucidide volgarizzata libri otto. Anonymous translator. Florence: Tipografia Galileiana, 1835.) — 5.100 focus

Melii. « Certamente adunque se tanti pericoli francamente affrontate, e voi per non perdere l' impero, e i già servi per sottrarsene , sarebbe per noi tuttavia liberi gran viltà e dappocaggine non passare per ogui trafila prima di vederci schiavi ».

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War 5.100

Theodor Braun (Translator)

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