Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, Theodor Braun (Translator), 3.29

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Die Peloponnesier auf den vierzig Schiffen hatten, statt
sich möglichst zu beeilen, schon in den peloponnesischen Ge
wässern viel Zeit verloren und auch nachher ihre Fahrt nur
langsam fortgesetzt. In Athen aber hatte man weiter nichts
mehr von ihnen gehört, bis sie bei Delos ershcienen waren.
Als sie von da nach Mykonos und Ikaros kamen, erhielten sie
die erste Nachricht, daß Mytilene genommen wäre. Um sich
darüber zu vergewissern, fuhren sie weiter nach Embaton bei
Erythrai, wo sie etwa acht Tage nach der Einnahme von
Mytilene eintrafen. Nachdem sie hier die volle Gewißheit er
halten hatten, überlegten sie, was nun zu tun sei, wobei
Tautiaplos aus EliS sie also anredete:

History of the Peloponnesian War. Thucydides. Theodor Braun (Translator). Leipzig. 1917.

Current edition First1KGreek

Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs (German) (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Braun, Theodor, translator. Leipzig: Insel-Verlag, 1917.)

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Ἱστορίαι Perseus (Thucydides. Historiae, Vol 1-2. Jones, Henry Stuart, editor. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1910. (1942 printing).) — 3.29.1 focus

[1] οἱ δ’ ἐν ταῖς τεσσαράκοντα ναυσὶ Πελοποννήσιοι, οὓς ἔδει ἐν τάχει παραγενέσθαι, πλέοντες περί τε αὐτὴν τὴν Πελοπόννησον ἐνδιέτριψαν καὶ κατὰ τὸν ἄλλον πλοῦν σχολαῖοι κομισθέντες τοὺς μὲν ἐκ τῆς πόλεως Ἀθηναίους λανθάνουσι, πρὶν δὴ τῇ Δήλῳ ἔσχον, προσμείξαντες δ’ ἀπ’ αὐτῆς τῇ Ἰκάρῳ καὶ Μυκόνῳ πυνθάνονται πρῶτον ὅτι ἡ Μυτιλήνη ἑάλωκεν.

[2] βουλόμενοι δὲ τὸ σαφὲς εἰδέναι κατέπλευσαν ἐς Ἔμβατον τῆς Ἐρυθραίας· ἡμέραι δὲ μάλιστα ἦσαν τῇ Μυτιλήνῃ ἑαλωκυίᾳ ἑπτὰ ὅτε ἐς τὸ Ἔμβατον κατέπλευσαν. πυθόμενοι δὲ τὸ σαφὲς ἐβουλεύοντο ἐκ τῶν παρόντων, καὶ ἔλεξεν αὐτοῖς Τευτίαπλος ἀνὴρ Ἠλεῖος τάδε.

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The History of the Grecian War Perseus (Thucydides. The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury. Hobbes, Thomas. translator. London: John Bohn, 1843.) — 3.29.1 focus

[1] In the meantime those forty galleys of Peloponnesus which should have made all possible haste trifled away the time about Peloponnesus and, making small speed in the rest of their navigation, arrived at Delos unknown to the Athenians at Athens. From thence sailing to Icarus and Myconus, they got first intelligence of the loss of Mytilene. But to know the truth more certainly, they went thence to Embatus in Erythraea.

[2] It was about the seventh day after the taking of Mytilene that they arrived at Embatus where, understanding the certainty, they went to council about what they were to do upon the present occasion; and Teutiaplus, an Eleian, delivered his opinion to this effect:

History of the Peloponnesian War Perseus (Thucydides. History of the Peloponnesian War. Crawley, Richard, translator. London and Toronto: J. M. Dent and Sons Ltd.; New York: E. P. Dutton and Co., 1914.) — 3.29.1 focus

[1] Meanwhile, the Peloponnesians in the forty ships, who ought to have made all haste to relieve Mitylene , lost time in coming round Peloponnese itself, and proceeding leisurely on the remainder of the voyage, made Delos without having been seen by the Athenians at Athens , and from thence arriving at Icarus and Myconus, there first heard of the fall of Mitylene .

[2] Wishing to know the truth, they put into Embatum, in the Erythraeid, about seven days after the capture of the town. Here they learned the truth, and began to consider what they were to do; and Teutiaplus, an Elean, addressed them as follows:—

Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs First1KGreek (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Wahrmund, Adolf, translator. Stuttgart: Krais and Hoffmann, 1864.) — 3.29 focus

Die Peloponnesier aber auf den vierzig Schiffen, die in
aller Eile hätten herankommen sollen, säumten sich schon in den
Peloponnesischen Gewässern, und auch aus der weiteren Fahrt rückten
sie nur langsam vorwärts. Die Athener in der Stadt erhielten nicht
eher Kenntniß von ihnen, als bis sie sich bei Delos zeigten. Als sie
von da weiter nach Ikaros und Mykonos kamen, erhielten sie zuerst
die Nachricht, Mytilene sei genommen. Da sie aber Gewißheit haben
wollten, so segelten sie nach Embaton im Erythräischen ^am
Vorgebirge Kara Burun vor dem Busen von Smyrna^. Sieben Tage
ungefähr waren seit der Einnahme Mytilene? verflossen, als sie bei
Embaton landeten. Da erhielten sie denn Gewißheit und beriethen
nun, was unter diesen Umständen zu thun sei, und Teutiaplos, ein
Mann aus Elis, sprach zu ihnen also:

Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponèse First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése, Vol. 1-2. Zévort, Marie Charles, translator. Paris: Charpentier, 1852.) — 3.29 focus

XXIX. Cependant les Péloponnésiens qui montaient les quarante vaisseaux, au lieu d’arriver en toute hâte comme ils le devaient, perdirent du temps autour du Péloponnèse, et firent lentement le reste de la tra- versée. Leur présence dans ces parages ne fut connue des Athéniens qu’à leur arrivée à Délos. De là ils touchèrent à Icare et à Mycone ; et c’est alors seulement qu’ils apprirent la prise de Mytilène. Voulant se renseigner sûrement à cet égard, ils firent voile pour Embatos d’Erythrée¹, où ils abordèrent sept jours après la reddition de Mytilène. Instruits de la vérité, ils ou- vrirent une délibération sur le parti à prendre dans la circonstance ; Teutiaple d’Élée parla ainsi :

Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése. Bétant, Élie-Ami, translator. Paris: Librairie de L. Hachette, 1863.) — 3.29 focus

Cependant les Péloponésiens montés sur les quarante vaisseaux, au lieu de faire diligence comme ils l’auraient dû, perdirent beaucoup de temps autour du Péloponèse et opérèrent leur traversée avec lenteur. Leur départ ne fut connu à Athènes que lorsqu’ils eurent touché à Délos. Ensuite ils atteignirent Icaros et Myconos ¹, où ils reçurent le premier avis de la reddition de Mytilène. Voulant s’assurer du fait, ils allèrent descendre à Embatos sur la terre d’Ërythres, Où ils abordèrent sept jours après la prise de la ville. La nouvelle s’étatot confirmée, ils tinrent conseil sur le parti à prendre. Teutiaplos d’Élis prononça le discours suivant : j

History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides, Vol. 1-4. Smith, Charles Foster, translator. London and Cambridge, MA: Heinemann and Harvard University Press, 1919-1923.) — 3.29.1 focus

[1] Meanwhile the Peloponnesians in the forty ships, who ought to have arrived speedily at Mytilene, wasted time on their voyage round the Peloponnesus and on the rest of the way proceeded leisurely. They were unobserved by the Athenian home fleet until they reached Delos; but when after leaving Delos they touched at Icaros and Myconos they received the first tidings that Mytilene had been taken.

[2] Wishing however to know the exact situation they sailed to Embatum in Erythraea; and it was about seven days after the capture of Mytilene that they came to Embatum. Now that they had learned the truth, they took counsel in view of the present emergency, and Teutiaplus, an Elean, spoke to them as follows:

History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides. The history of the Peloponnesian War, Volume 1-2. Dale, Henry, translator. London: Heinemann and Henry G. Bohn, 1851-1852.) — 3.29.1 focus

[1] Now the Peloponnesians on board the forty ships, who ought with all speed to have joined the Mytilenaeans, both lost time in cruising about the Peloponnese itself, and proceeded at their leisure during the rest of the voyage, unobserved by the Athenians at home, until they touched at Delos; after leaving which island they came to land at Icarus and Myconus, and there received the first tidings of the capture of Mytilene.

[2] Wishing, however, to know the exact truth of the matter, they put into Embatum in the Erythraean territory seven days having elapsed from he taking of Mytilene when they did so. After hearing the exact truth, they consulted on the present state of affairs; and Teutiaplus, an Elean, addressed them as follows:

Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci First1KGreek (Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci. Haase, Friedrich, translator. Paris: Firmin Didot, 1869.) — 3.29.1 focus

[1] Peloponnesii vero, qui quadraginta navibus vehebantur, quos celeriter venisse oportuerat, quum circa Pelo- ponnesum ipsam navigantes tempus triverunt, tum etiam in reliquo navigationis cursu lente vecti, Athenienses quidem, qui in urbe erant, latuerunt, usque dum ad Delum appulissent; illinc vero ad Icarum et Myconum profecti cognoverunt primum My tilenen captam esse.

[2] Sed quum rem exploratam habere vellent, ad Embatum in insula Erythraea navigarunt; die autem a Mytilene capta circiter septimo ad Embatum sunt delati. Itaque re accurate cognita pro praesenti rerum statu, quid esset agendum, consultare coeperunt. Et Teutiaplus Eleus dixit iis haec :

Vier Staatsreden aus Thucydides First1KGreek (Thucydides. Vier Staatsreden aus Thucydides. Gürsching, Heinrich, translator. Augsburg: Wirth, 1856.) — 2.35.1 focus

[1] Wenn es bisher bei den Rednern an dieser Stätte fast allgemeiner Brauch geworden, den Mann zu rühmen, der mit der Bestattung diese Rede verband, weil an dem Grabe gefallener Krieger ein ehrendes Wort sich zieme, so würde ich es für hinreichend gehalten haben, dass man Helden der That mit einer festlichen Handlung ehre, — wie das denn der Staat durch die Bestattung gethan hat, deren Zeugen ihr so eben gewesen — und würde die Verherrlichung so vieler Männer nicht einem Einzelnen und der zufälligen Wirkung seines Vortrags anheimgegeben haben.

La storia di Tucidide First1KGreek (Thucydides. Della storia di Tucidide volgarizzata libri otto. Anonymous translator. Florence: Tipografia Galileiana, 1835.) — 3.29 focus

Ma i Peloponnesi colle quaranta navi, che dovevano arrivare prontamente , si intertennero volteggiando attorno al Peloponneso, e si condussero nel restante del corso con tanta lentezza che in Atene non se ne ebbe novella fino a tanto che non approdarono a Deio. Di là poi giunsero ad Icaro e a Micono, ove per la prima volta udirono della presa di Mitilene : e volendo chiarirsene, presero terra ad Embato dell’Eritrea. Erano intorno di sette giorni che Mitilene era stata presa, quando arrivarono ad Embato : laonde ragguagliati di ciò chiaramente deliberavano sul presente stato delle cose, e Teutiaplo di Elea parlò ad essi così :

Commentary

Commentary on Thucydides: Book 3 (Thucydides, Book III. Marchant, Edgar C., editor. London: Macmillan and Company, 1909.) focus

ἐνδιέτριψαν —Steup thinks that we should read ἐνδιατρίψαντες or remove, mainly because τοὺς μὲν . . ἑάλωκεν gives the result of the slowness in both parts of the voyage; more prob. Thuc. would have written ἐκομίσθησαν below, but altered the form of the sentence at that point to add the result of κομισθέντες in λανθάνουσι τοὑς Ἀθηναίους—for the ships could not have been detected by the Athenians ἐκ τῆς πόλεως so long as they were on the Peloponnesian eoast (there was no Athenian fleet out there now).

τοὺς μὲν ἐκ τῆς πόλεως Ἀ. —those remaining at home in contrast with those at Lesbos. (The attempt to fix upon any definite fleet seems to be a mistake. Ships in port may, of course, be meant.)

πρὶν δὴ τῇ Δήλῳ ἔσχον —though no actual neg. precedes, the whole effect is neg.; cf. c. 104, and M.T. § 635. With the dat. constr., whieh is poetical, for ἐς or κατά, cf. c. 5 αὐτοῖς . . ἀφικνεῖται, (which is nearer to the dat. of interest), and c. 33, 4. After leaving Delos they had no fear of A. ships.

Ἰκάρῳ καὶ Μυκόνῳ —the goal ultimately reached is mentioned first, as not uncommonly.

ἡμέραι δὲ . . ἑαλωκυίᾳ —lit. ‘M. now reekoned seven days’; cf. I. 13, 4, Herod. II. 145 Ἡρακλέϊ ὅσα φασὶ ἐ=ναι ἔτεα ἐς Ἄμασιν, Xen. Hell. II. 1, 27 ἡμέρα ἦν πέμπτη ἐπιπλέουσι τοῖς Αθηναίοις. The insertion of μάλιστα even with small numbers is a mannerism of Thuc.

ἐκ τῶν παρόντων —‘under the circumstances.’

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War 3.29

Theodor Braun (Translator)

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