Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, Adolf Wahrmund (Translator), 1.43

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„Unsere Lage ist nun dieselbe wie die eure damals, als wir
in Lakedämon erklärten^), daß Jeder seine eigenen Bundesgenossen
zu züchtigen das Recht habe, nnd wir erwarten nun von euch dasselbe
Benehmen, und daß ihr uns durch eure Entscheidung nicht in dem
gleichen Fall schadet, in welchem wir durch die unsere euch genützt
haben. Vergeltet Gleiches mit Gleichem und bedenket, daß eben die
jetzige Lage wieder eine solche ist, in welcher derjenige der beste Freund
ist, der sich dienstbeflissen zeigt, und der ein Feind, der sich hinderlich
erweist, und nehmt nicht die Kerkyräer uns zum Trotz als
Bundesgenossen an, noch leistet ihrem ungerechten Treiben Vorschub. Wenn
ihr so handelt, werdet ihr Recht thun und das beschließen, was auch
für euch selbst das Nutzbringendste ist."

History of the Peloponnesian War. Thucydides. Adolf Wahrmund (Translator). Stuttgart. 1864.

Current edition First1KGreek

Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs (German) (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Wahrmund, Adolf, translator. Stuttgart: Krais and Hoffmann, 1864.)

Editions (1)

Ἱστορίαι Perseus (Thucydides. Historiae, Vol 1-2. Jones, Henry Stuart, editor. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1910. (1942 printing).) — 1.43.1 focus

[1] ἡμεῖς δὲ περιπεπτωκότες οἷς ἐν τῇ Λακεδαίμονι αὐτοὶ προείπομεν, τοὺς σφετέρους ξυμμάχους αὐτόν τινα κολάζειν, νῦν παρ’ ὑμῶν τὸ αὐτὸ ἀξιοῦμεν κομίζεσθαι, καὶ μὴ τῇ ἡμετέρᾳ ψήφῳ ὠφεληθέντας τῇ ὑμετέρᾳ ἡμᾶς βλάψαι.

[2] τὸ δὲ ἴσον ἀνταπόδοτε, γνόντες τοῦτον ἐκεῖνον εἶναι τὸν καιρὸν ἐν ᾧ ὅ τε ὑπουργῶν φίλος μάλιστα καὶ ὁ ἀντιστὰς ἐχθρός.

[3] καὶ Κερκυραίους τούσδε μήτε ξυμμάχους δέχεσθε βίᾳ ἡμῶν μήτε ἀμύνετε αὐτοῖς ἀδικοῦσιν.

[4] καὶ τάδε ποιοῦντες τὰ προσήκοντά τε δράσετε καὶ τὰ ἄριστα βουλεύσεσθε ὑμῖν αὐτοῖς.’

Translations (9)

The History of the Grecian War Perseus (Thucydides. The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury. Hobbes, Thomas. translator. London: John Bohn, 1843.) — 1.43.1 focus

[1] And since we be come to this, which once before we said at Lacedaemon, that everyone ought to proceed as he shall think good against his own confederates, we claim that liberty now of you; and that you that have been helped by our votes will not hurt us now by yours, but render like for like;

[2] remembering that now is that occasion wherein he that aideth us is our greatest friend, and he that opposeth us our greatest enemy; and that you will not receive these Corcyraeans into league against our wills nor defend them in their injuries.

[3] These things if you grant us, you shall both do as is fit and also advise the best for the good of your own affairs.

[4] This was the effect of what was spoken by the Corinthians.

History of the Peloponnesian War Perseus (Thucydides. History of the Peloponnesian War. Crawley, Richard, translator. London and Toronto: J. M. Dent and Sons Ltd.; New York: E. P. Dutton and Co., 1914.) — 1.43.1 focus

It is now our turn to benefit by the principle that we laid down at Lacedaemon , that every power has a right to punish her own allies. We now claim to receive the same from you, and protest against your rewarding us for benefiting you by our vote by injuring us by yours.

On the contrary, return us like for like, remembering that this is that very crisis in which he who lends aid is most a friend, and he who opposes is most a foe.

And for these Corcyraeans—neither receive them into alliance in our despite, nor be their abettors in crime.

So do, and you will act as we have a right to expect of you, and at the same time best consult your own interest.

Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs First1KGreek (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Braun, Theodor, translator. Leipzig: Insel-Verlag, 1917.) — 1.43 focus

„Wir sind jetzt in die Lage gekommen, nach dem von uns
in Lakedämon vertretenen Grundsatze zu verfahren, daß es
niemand verwehrt sein dürfe, seine Bundesgenossen im Zaume
zu halten, und erwarten von euch, daß auch ihr uns in dieser
Beziehung keine Hindernisse in den Weg legt und, wie euch
damals unsere Abstimmung zugute gekommen ist, jetzt auch nichts
zu unserem Nachteil beschließen werdet. Vergeltet unS viel
mehr Gleiches mit Gleichem und bedenkt, daß eben jetzt wieder
solch ein Augenblick ist, wo jeder, der für uns, als Freund,
wer wider uns ist, als Feind gilt. Nehmt diese Kerkyräer
nicht uns zum Trotz als Bundesgenossen an und leistet ihren
Übergriffen keinen Vorschub. Dann handelt ihr nicht nur kor
rekt, sondern auch im eigenen, wohlverstandenen Interesse."
So die Korinther.

Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponèse First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése, Vol. 1-2. Zévort, Marie Charles, translator. Paris: Charpentier, 1852.) — 1.43 focus

XLIII. « Puisque nous avons rappelé par hasard ce que nous avons dit autrefois nous-mêmes, à Lacédémone, à savoir que chacun doit punir ses propres alliés, nous vous demandons aujourd’hui la même chose : notre suffrage vous a été favorable ; que le vôtre ne nous soit pas contraire. Payez-nous de retour et songez que nous sommes dans cette situation où l’homme n’a pas de meilleur ami que celui qui l’aide, de plus grand ennemi que celui qui lui fait obstacle. Gardez-vous donc d’admettre, à notre détriment, ces Corcyréens dans votre alliance, et de les aider dans leurs injustices : en agissant ainsi vous ferez ce qui est juste et en même temps ce qui est le plus conforme à vos interest. » Ainsi parlèrent les Corinthiens.

Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése. Bétant, Élie-Ami, translator. Paris: Librairie de L. Hachette, 1863.) — 1.43 focus

a Mais puisque nous avons rappelé ce que nous avons dit autrefois à Lacédémone, que chacun a le droit de châtier ses alliés, nous attendons de vous une décision semblable. Obligés par notre suffrage, vous ne voudrez pas nous nuire par le vôtre. Payez-nous plutôt de retour. Songez que c’est ici le moment où celui qui nous sert devient notre ami et celui qui nous contrarie notre ennemi. Ne recevez pas malgré nous ces Corcy-réens dans votre alliance et ne les soutenez pas dans leurs injustices. Par là vous ferez ce qu’exigent de vous votre devoir et vos plus chers intérêts. »

History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides, Vol. 1-4. Smith, Charles Foster, translator. London and Cambridge, MA: Heinemann and Harvard University Press, 1919-1923.) — 1.43.1 focus

[1] "But we, since events have brought us under the rule which we ourselves proclaimed at Sparta, that each should discipline his own allies, now claim from you in return the same treatment—that you who were then aided by our vote should not injure us by yours.

[2] Pay back like with like, determining that this is the supreme moment when assistance is cne truest friendship—opposition the worst hostility.

[3] We beg you neither to accept the Corcyraeans as your allies in despite of us, nor to aid them in their wrong-doing.

[4] And if you do this, you will not only be taking the fitting course, but will also be consulting your own best interests."

History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides. The history of the Peloponnesian War, Volume 1-2. Dale, Henry, translator. London: Heinemann and Henry G. Bohn, 1851-1852.) — 1.43.1 focus

[1]

We then, having fallen under the rule which we propounded ourselves at Lacedaemon, that every one should punish his own allies, now claim to receive the same from you; and not that you, after being benefited by our vote, should harm us by yours. Make us then a fair return;

[2]

knowing that this is that very crisis, in which he that helps is most a friend, and he that opposes, a foe.

[3]

And for these Corcyraeans, neither receive them as allies in spite of us, nor help them in doing wrong.

[4]

By thus acting, you will both do what becomes you, and advise the best for yourselves.

To this effect then did the Corinthians also speak.

Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci First1KGreek (Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci. Haase, Friedrich, translator. Paris: Firmin Didot, 1869.) — 1.43.1 focus

[1] « Nos autem quum in ea inciderimus, de quibus ipsi Lacedaemoni praediximus, ut suos quisque socios coerceat, nunc ut idem obtineamus a vobis postulamus, utque, quando a nobis lata sententia adjuti estis, ne vestra nos affligatis.

[2] Sed parem gratiam reddite memores hoc illud esse tempus, quo potissimum et ille, qui operam praestat , amicus est, et qui obstiterit, inimicus.

[3] Et Corcyraeos istos neque nobis invitis in societatem recipite, neque tuemini eos male fadentes.

[4] Atque haec si fadatis, et quae justa sunt, feceritis, et utilissima rebus vestris consulueritis. » (5.) Haec autem et Corinthii dixerunt.

La storia di Tucidide First1KGreek (Thucydides. Della storia di Tucidide volgarizzata libri otto. Anonymous translator. Florence: Tipografia Galileiana, 1835.) — 1.43 focus

« E trovandoci nel caso stesso pel quale a Sparta pronunziammo che ciascuno da sè tenesse a freno i propri alleati , crediamo ora giusto che ci si debba altrettanto ; affinchè voi favoriti dal nostro voto, non ci portiate danno col vostro. Anzi retribuiteci del pari, vedendo esser questa P opportunità, in cui è sommamente amico chi aiuta , e nemico chi contradia : e non vogliate a nostro malgrado ricevere in alleanza questi Corfuotti, nè aiutarli mentre ci offendono. Oprando così farete il convenevole, e prenderete a prò vostro il consiglio migliore ». Così parlarono i Corintii.

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War 1.43

Adolf Wahrmund (Translator)

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