Titus Livius (Livy), Ab urbe condita, Benjamin Oliver Foster, Ph.D. (Editor), Frank Gardener Moore (Editor), Alfred C. Schlesinger, Ph.D. (Editor), 28.25

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cum alios subinde recentes nuntios non mortis modo, sed etiam funeris exspectarent, neque superveniret quisquam, evanesceretque temere ortus rumor, tum ¹ primi auctores requiri coepti.

[2] et subtrahente se quoque, ut credidisse potius temere quam finxisse rem talem videri posset, destituti duces iam sua ipsi insignia et pro vana imagine imperil quod gererent veram iustamque mox in se versuram potestatem horrebant.

[3] stupente² ita seditione, cum vivere primo, mox etiam valere Scipionem certi auctores adferrent, tribuni militum septem ab ipso Scipione missi supervenerunt. ³

[4] ad quorum primum adventum exasperati animi; mox ipsis placido sermone permulcentibus notos cum quibus congressi erant, leniti sunt.

[5] circumeuntes enim tentoria primo, deinde in principiis praetorioque, ubi sermones inter se serentium circulos vidissent, adloquebantur percunctantes magis quae causa irae consternationisque subitae foret quam factum accusantes.

[6] volgo stipendium non datum ad diem iactabatur, et, cum eodem tempore quo scelus Iliturgitanorum exstitisset post duorum imperatorum duorumque exercituum stragem sua virtute defensum nomen Romanum ac retenta provincia esset, Iliturgitanos poenam noxae meritam habere, suis recte factis gratiam qui exsolvat non esse.

[7] talia querentes ⁴ aequa orare, seque ea relaturos ad imperatorem respondebant; laetari quod nihil tristius nec insanabilius esset; et P. Scipionem deum benignitate et ⁵ rem publicam esse gratiae referendae.

[8] Scipionem bellis adsuetum, ad seditionum procellas rudem, sollicitum habebat res, ne aut exercitus peccando aut ipse puniendo modum excederet.

[9] In praesentia, ut coepisset,leniter agi placuit et missis circa stipendiarias civitates exactoribus stipendii spem propinquam facere;

[10] et ⁶ edictum subinde propositum ut ad stipendium petendum convenirent Carthaginem, seu carptim partes ⁷ seu universi mallent.

[11] tranquillam seditionem iam ⁸ per se languescentem repentina quies rebellantium Hispanorum fecit; redierant enim in fines omisso incepto Mandonius et Indibilis, postquam vivere Scipionem allatum est;

[12] nec iam erat aut civis aut externus cum quo furorem suum consociarent.

[13] omnia circumspectantes consilia ⁹ nihil reliqui habebant praeter non ¹⁰ tutissimum a malis consiliis receptum, ut imperatoris vel iustae irae vel non desperandae clementiae sese committerent: etiam hostibus eum ignovisse cum quibus ferro dimicasset;

[14] suam seditionem sine volnere, sine sanguine fuisse, nec ipsam atrocem nec atroci poena dignam,—ut ingenia humana sunt ad suam cuique levandam culpam nimio plus facunda. ¹¹

[15] illa dubitatio erat, singulaene cohortes an universi ad ¹² stipendium petendum irent. inclinavit sententia, quod tutius censebant, universos ire.

Ab urbe condita. Titus Livius (Livy). Benjamin Oliver Foster, Ph.D. (Editor), Frank Gardener Moore (Editor), Alfred C. Schlesinger, Ph.D. (Editor). Medford, MA. .

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Ab urbe condita (Latin) (Livy in Fourteen Volumes. Foster, Benjamin Oliver; Moore, Frank Gardener; Schlesinger, Alfred C., editors. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press; London: William Heinemann, Ltd., 1919-1959 (printing).)

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Ab urbe condita Perseus (Pars I-IV, Libri I-XL. Editio Stereotypica. Weissenborn, Wilhelm; Mueller, Moritz, editors. Leipzig: Teubner, 1884-1911.) — 28.25 focus

[1] cum alios subinde recentes nuntios non mortis modo, sed etiam funeris expectarent, neque superveniret quisquam, evanesceretque temere ortus rumor, tum primi auctores requiri coepti.

[2] et subtrahente se quoque, ut credidisse potius temere quam finxisse rem talem videri posset, destituti duces iam sua ipsi insignia et pro vana imagine imperil, quod gererent, veram iustamque mox in se versuram potestatem horrebant.

[3] stupenti ita seditioni, cum vivere primo, mox etiam valere Scipionem certi auctores adferrent, tribuni militum septem ab ipso Scipione missi supervenerunt.

[4] ad quorum primum adventum exasperati animi, mox ipsis placido sermone permulcentibus notos, cum quibus congressi erant, leniti sunt.

[5] circumeuntes enim tentoria primo deinde in principiis praetorioque, ubi sermones inter se serentium circulos vidissent, adloquebantur percunctantes magis, quae causa irae consternationisque subitae foret, quam factum accusantes.

[6] vulgo stipendium non datum ad diem iactabatur, et, cum eodem tempore, quo scelus Iliturgitanorum exstitisset, post duorum imperatorum duorumque exercituum stragem sua virtute defensum nomen Romanum ac retenta provincia esset, Iliturgitanos poenam noxae meritam habere, suis recte factis gratiam qui exsolvat non esse.

[7] talia querentes aequa orare, seque ea relaturos ad imperatorem respondebant; laetari, quod nihil tristius nec insanabilius esset; et P. Scipionem deum benignitate et rem publicam esse gratiae referendae.

[8] Scipionem bellis adsuetum ad seditionum procellas rudem, sollicitum habebat res, ne aut exercitus peccando aut ipse puniendo modum excederet.

[9] in praesentia, ut coepisset, leniter agi placuit et missis circa stipendiarias civitates exactoribus stipendii spem propinquam facere;

[10] et edictum subinde propositum, ut ad stipendium petendum convenirent Carthaginem, seu carptim partes seu universi mallent.

[11] tranquillam seditionem iam per se languescentem repentina quies rebellantium Hispanorum fecit; redierant enim in fines omisso incepto Mandonius et Indibilis, postquam vivere Scipionem allatum est;

[12] nec iam erat aut civis aut externus, cum quo furorem suum consociarent.

[13] omnia circumspectantes consilia nihil reliqui habebant praeter non tutissimum a malis consiliis receptum, ut imperatoris vel iustae irae vel non desperandae clementiae sese committerent: etiam hostibus eum ignovisse, cum quibus ferro dimicasset;

[14] suam seditionem sine vulnere, sine sanguine fuisse, nec ipsam atrocen atrocem nec atroci poena dignam, — ut ingenia humana sunt ad suam cuique levandam culpam nimio plus facunda.

[15] illa dubitatio erat singulaene cohortes an universi ad stipendium petendum irent. inclinavit sententia, quod tutius censebant, universos ire.

Ab urbe condita Perseus (Conway, Robert Seymour; Walters, Charles Flamstead; Johnson, Stephen Keymer, editors. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1914-1935. (Oxford Classical Texts)) — 28.25 focus

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cum alios subinde recentes nuntios non mortis modo sed etiam funeris exspectarent, neque superueniret quisquam euanesceretque temere ortus rumor, tum primi auctores requiri coepti;

[2] et subtrahente se quoque ut credidisse potius temere quam finxisse rem talem uideri posset, destituti duces iam sua ipsi insignia et pro uana imagine imperii quod gererent ueram iustamque mox in se uersuram potestatem horrebant.

[3] stupente ita seditione cum uiuere primo, mox etiam ualere Scipionem certi auctores adferrent, tribuni militum septem ab ipso Scipione missi superuenerunt.

[4] ad quorum primum aduentum exasperati animi: mox ipsis placido sermone permulcentibus notos cum quibus congressi erant, leniti sunt.

[5] circumeuntes enim tentoria primo, deinde in principiis praetorioque ubi sermones inter se serentium circulos uidissent adloquebantur, percontantes magis quae causa irae consternationisque subitae foret quam factum accusantes.

[6] uolgo stipendium non datum ad diem iactabatur, et cum eodem tempore quo scelus Iliturgitanum exstitisset post duorum imperatorum duorumque exercituum stragem sua uirtute defensum nomen Romanum ac retenta prouincia esset, Iliturgitanos poenam noxae meritam habere, suis recte factis gratiam qui exsoluat non esse.

[7] talia querentes aequa orare seque ea relaturos ad imperatorem respondebant; laetari quod nihil tristius nec insanabilius esset; et P. Scipionem deum benignitate et rem publicam esse gratiae referendae.

[8] Scipionem, bellis adsuetum, ad seditionum procellas rudem, sollicitum habebat res ne aut exercitus peccando aut ipse puniendo modum excederet.

[9] in praesentia, ut coepisset, leniter agi placuit et missis circa stipendiarias ciuitates exactoribus stipendii spem propinquam facere;

[10] et edictum subinde propositum ut ad stipendium petendum conuenirent Carthaginem, seu carptim partes seu uniuersi mallent.

[12] nec iam erat aut ciuis aut externus cum quo furorem suum consociarent. omnia circumspectantes [consilia] nihil reliqui habebant praeter unum tutissimum a malis consiliis receptum, ut imperatoris uel iustae irae uel non desperandae clementiae sese committerent:

[13] etiam hostibus eum ignouisse cum quibus ferro dimicasset:

[14] suam seditionem sine uolnere, sine sanguine fuisse nec ipsam atrocem nec atroci poena dignam—ut ingenia humana sunt ad suam cuique leuandam culpam nimio plus facunda.

[15] illa dubitatio erat singulaene cohortes an uniuersi ad stipendium petendum irent. inclinauit sententia, quod tutius censebant, uniuersos ire.

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History of Rome Perseus (Foster, Benjamin Oliver; Moore, Frank Gardener; Sage, Evan T.; Schlesinger, Alfred C., translators. Cambridge, Mass.; London: Harvard University Press; William Heinemann, Ltd., 1919-1959. (Loeb Classical Library)) — 28.25 focus

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While they waited from moment to moment for fresh news, expecting to hear not only of his death but even of his funeral, and yet none came and the groundless report was losing hold, then its first sponsors began ¹ to be sought out.

[2] And as one after another drew back, that he might be thought to have rashly believed such a thing rather than to have invented it, the deserted leaders were now alarmed at their own insignia and, in place of the empty semblance of command which was theirs, at the real, duly bestowed authority that would presently turn against them.

[3] Thus when the mutiny was at a standstill and credible informants brought the news, first that Scipio was alive, and then that he was even well, seven tribunes of the soldiers arrived, being sent by Scipio himself.

[4] Upon their arrival there was at first irritation; soon after, as the tribunes themselves by mild words calmed acquaintances whom they had met, the men were less resentful.

[5] For going round at first among the tents, then in the headquarters square and before the general's tent, where they saw groups talking together, they would speak to the men, asking them what was the reason for their anger and their sudden mania, instead of finding fault with them for what they had done.

[6] A common complaint was that their pay had not been given them on the proper date; also that, whereas at the time when the men of Iliturgi ² had committed their crime, after the slaughter of the two commanders-in-chief and the two armies, the Roman name had been defended and the province retained by their own courage, yet, while the Iliturgians now had a due punishment for their crime, there was no one to reward their own good deeds.

[7] In reply the tribunes said that those who complained of such matters only were making just pleas, and they would report them to the commander-in-chief.

[8] They were glad that there was nothing more serious nor more incurable; and by favour of the gods ³ Scipio and the republic, they said, were in a position to show gratitude.

[9] Scipio, who was familiar with wars but unacquainted with the gusts of mutinies, was kept in a state of concern lest either the army should go to excess in wrong-doing or he himself in punishing them.

[10] For the present he decided to use gentle measures, as he had begun to do, and to bring the hope of pay nearer by sending collectors round the tributary states.

[11] Next an edict was posted up that they should assemble at (New) Carthage to get their pay, whether they preferred to do so as separate units or all together. The mutiny, already of itself on the wane, was quelled by sudden peace on the part of the rebellious Spaniards.

[12] For Mandonius and Indibilis had abandoned their project and retired to their borders when they had news that Scipio was alive. Nor was there either a fellow-citizen or foreigner any longer with whom the soldiers might share their madness.

[13] On surveying all possible plans they had nothing left except a not altogether safe retreat from criminal designs, namely, to give themselves up either to the commander's well-grounded anger or to his mercy, as not beyond their hopes.

[14] He had pardoned even enemies, they said, with whom he had fought with the sword; their mutiny had been free from wounds, free from bloodshed, and neither in itself savage nor meriting a savage punishment. So unduly eloquent is human nature in minimizing one's own guilt.

[15] The only question was whether to go in separate ⁴ cohorts to get their pay, or all together. Their decision was that all should go together, which they thought safer.

History of Rome Perseus (Spillan, D.; Edmonds, Cyrus; McDevitte, William A., translators. London: Henry G. Bohn, 1849-1868. (Bohn's Classical Library)) — 28.25 focus

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As they expected that other fresh accounts would follow those which they had received, not only of the death, but even of the burial, of Scipio, and yet none arrived;

[2] and as the rumour which had been so idly originated began to die away, the first author of it began to be sought out; and each backing out in order that he might appear rather to have inconsiderately credited than to have fabricated such a report, the leaders were forsaken, and began now to dread their own ensigns of authority, and to apprehend that, instead of that empty show of command which they wore, a legitimate and rightful power would be turned against them.

[3] The mutiny being thus paralysed, and credible persons bringing in accounts, first, that Scipio was alive, and, soon after, that he was even in good health, seven military tribunes were sent by Scipio himself.

[4] At the first arrival of these their minds were violently excited; but they were soon calmed by the mild and soothing language which they addressed to such of their acquaintance as they met with;

[5] for, going round first of all to the tents, and then entering the principia and the praetorium, wherever they observed circles of men conversing together, they addressed them, inquiring rather what it was that had occasioned their displeasure and sudden consternation, than taxing them with what had occurred.

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That they had not received their pay at the appointed time,

was generally complained; and

that although at the time of the horrid transaction of the Illiturgians, and after the destruction of two generals and two armies, the Roman cause had been defended and the province retained by their valour; the Illiturgians had received the punishment due to their offence, but there was no one found to reward them for their meritorious services.

[7] The tribunes replied,

that, considering the nature of their complaints, what they requested was just, and that they would lay it before the general; that they were happy that there was nothing of a more gloomy and irremediable character; that both Publius Scipio, by the favour of the gods, and the commonwealth, were in a situation to requite them.

[8] Scipio, who was accustomed to war but inexperienced in the storms of sedition, felt great anxiety on the occasion, lest the army should run into excess in transgressing, or himself in punishing.

[9] For the present he resolved to persist in the lenient line of conduct with which he had begun, and sending collectors round to the tributary states, to give the soldiers hopes of soon receiving their pay.

[10] Immediately after this a proclamation was issued that they should come to Carthage to receive their pay, whether they wished to do so in detached parties or all in a body.

[11] The sudden suppression of the rebellion among the Spaniards had the effect of tranquillizing the mutiny, which was by this time beginning to subside of itself; for Mandonius and Indibilis, relinquishing their attempt, had returned within their borders when intelligence was brought that Scipio was alive; nor did there now remain any person, whether countryman or foreigner, whom they could make their companion in their desperate enterprise.

[12] On examining every method, they had no alternative except that which afforded a retreat from wicked designs, which was not of the safest kind, namely, to commit themselves either to the just anger of the general, or to his clemency, of which they need not despair.

[13] For he had pardoned even enemies whom he had encountered with the sword;

[14] while they reflected that their sedition had been unaccompanied with wounds or blood, and was neither in itself of an atrocious character nor merited severe punishment. So natural is it for men to be over-eloquent in extenuating their own demerit.

[15] They felt doubtful whether they should go to demand their pay in single cohorts or in one entire body; but the opinion that they should go in a body, which they regarded as the safer mode, prevailed.

History of Rome Perseus (Volumes 1-2. Roberts, Canon, Rev, translator. London, New York: J. M. Dent and Sons; E. P. Dutton and Co., 1912.) — 28.25 focus

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They were every hour expecting fresh details of Scipio's death, and even news of his funeral. None came however and the idle rumours by degrees died away. Then they began to look for those who started the report, but each in turn kept out of the way, preferring to be thought credulous rather than suspected of inventing such a story.

[2] Abandoned by their followers, the ringleaders looked with dread upon the insignia they had assumed, and fully expected that in return for this idle show of power they would draw down upon themselves the weight of the true and legitimate authority.

[3] While the mutiny was thus at a standstill, definite information was brought that Scipio was alive and this was soon followed by the further intelligence that his health was restored. This intelligence was brought by a party of seven military tribunes, whom Scipio had sent to Sucro.

[4] At first their presence was strongly resented, but the quiet talks they had with those they happened to know had a calming effect; they visited the soldiers in their tents, and chatted with the groups which gathered round the tribunals or in front of the headquarters tent.

[5] They made no reference to the treason the soldiers had been guilty of, but only questioned them as to the causes of the sudden outbreak. They were told in reply that the men did not get their pay punctually, nor their due share of credit for the part they had played in the campaign.

[6] It was by their courage, they asserted, that the Roman name was preserved and the province saved for the republic after the destruction of the two armies and their commanders, at the time when the Iliturgans committed their foul crime.

[7] And though they had received the just recompense for their treason, no one had been found to reward the Roman soldiers for their meritorious services.

In reply to these and similar complaints the tribunes told the men that their requests were reasonable and they would lay them before the general.

[8] They were glad that these were nothing worse or harder to set right, and the men might rest assured that P. Scipio, after the favour the gods had shown him, and, indeed, the whole State, would show their gratitude. Scipio was experienced in war, but unfamiliar with the storms of internal disturbances. Two things made him anxious, the possibility of the army exceeding all measure in its insubordination, or of his inflicting punishments which would be excessive.

[9] For the present he decided to go on as he had begun, and handle the matter gently. Collectors were sent among the tributary states so that the soldiers might hope to receive their pay soon.

[10] An order was shortly after issued for them to assemble at New Carthage for that purpose; they might go in a body or successively in single detachments as they preferred. The unrest was already dying down when the sudden cessation of hostilities on the part of the revolted Spaniards completely stopped it.

[11] When Mandonius and Indibilis heard that Scipio was still alive, they gave up their enterprise and retired within their frontiers, and the mutineers could no longer find any one either amongst their own countrymen or amongst the natives who would associate himself with their mad scheme.

[12] After carefully considering every possible plan they saw that the only way of escaping the consequences of their evil counsels, and that not a very hopeful way, was to submit themselves either to the just displeasure of their general or to his clemency, which they were not without hopes of experiencing.

[13] They argued that he had ever pardoned the enemies of his country after armed conflict, whereas during their mutiny not a wound had been received or a drop of blood shed, it had been free from all cruelty and did not deserve a cruel punishment.

[14] So ready are men with reasons when they wish to palliate their own misconduct. There was considerable hesitation as to whether they should go to receive their pay separately cohort by cohort. or all together. The latter course seemed the safer and they decided upon it.

Notes on the current edition

Ab urbe condita

1. A.U.C. 548

2. stupente P (1) Eds .: stupenti ( with seditioni) JK Luchs, Riemann: -ebant N.

3. ab ipso Scipione missi supervenerunt Sp ?JK Froben 2, Luchs , Conway: qui ab ipso Scipione sunt P (3) ( with sunt missi AN, while N 4 adds supervenere, and Nx deletes qui). possibly qui is evidence for a lost clause.

4. querentes, for this Riemann has querentibuso

5. A.U.C. 548

6. facere; et JK Luchs, Conway: -eret et N3 : fecere P 1) N: facere Aldus , Froben.

7. partes P (1) N 2: per partes Gronovius : om. as a gloss Riemann.

8. iam N3 JK Eds.: om. P (1) N.

9. consilia P (1) NJK Eds.: om. Gronovius , Conway.

10. non P (1) NJK Eds.; unum Aldus , Froben, Conway: enim Sp.

11. facunda A3 N 2 or N3 JK Eds.: faciunda P (3) N: f(o)ecunda duker , Madvig 1863.

12. A.U.C. 548

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