T. Maccius Plautus, Bacchides, ed. Friedrich Leo, 1.2

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109

Lydvs

Iam dudum, Pistoclere, tacitus te sequor,

expectans quas tu res hoc ornatu geras.
110

namque ita me di ament, ut Lycurgus mihi quidem

videtur posse hic ad nequitiam adducier.

quo nunc capessis ted hinc adversa via

cum tanta pompa?

Pistoclervs

Húc.

Lydvs

Quid huc? quis istíc habet?

Pistoclervs

Amor, Voluptas, Venus, Venustas, Gaudium,
115

Iocus, Lúdus, Sermo, Suavisaviatio.

Lydvs

Quid tibi commercist cum dis damnosissimis?

Pistoclervs

Mali sunt homines, qui bonis dicunt male;

tu dis nec recte dicis: non aequom facis.

Lydvs

An deus est ullus Suavisaviatio?
120

Pistoclervs

An non putasti esse umquam? o Lyde, es barbarus;

quem ego sapere nimio censui plus quam Thalem,

is stultior es barbaro poticio,

qui tantus natu deorum nescis nomina.

Lydvs

Non hic placet mi ornatus.
125

Pistoclervs

Nemo ergo tibi

haec apparavit: mihi paratum est quoi placet.

Lydvs

Etiam me advorsus exordire argutias?

qui si decem habeas linguas, mutum esse addecet.

Pistoclervs

Non omnis aetas, Lyde, ludo convenit.

magis unum in mentemst mihi nunc, satis ut commode
130

pro dignitate opsoni haec concuret cocus.

Lydvs

Iam perdidisti te atque me atque operam meam,

qui tibi nequiquam saepe monstravi bene.

Pistoclervs

Ibidem égo meam operam perdidi, ubi tu tuam:

tua disciplina nec mihi prodest nec tibi.
135

Lydvs

O praeligatum pectus.

Pistoclervs

Odiosus mihi es.

tace atque sequere, Lyde, me.

Lydvs

Illuc sis vide,

non paedagogum iam me, sed Lydum vocat.

Pistoclervs

Non par videtur neque sit consentaneum,

cum haec qui emit intus sit et cúm amica accubet
140

cumque osculetur et convivae alii accubent,

praesentibus illis paedagogus una ut siet.

Lydvs

An hoc ad eas res opsonatumst, obsecro?

Pistoclervs

Sperat quidem animus: quo evenat dis in manust.

Lydvs

Tu amicam habebis?
145

Pistoclervs

Cum videbis, tum scies.

Lydvs

Immo neque habebis neque sinam. i prorsum domum.

Pistoclervs

Omitte, Lyde, ac cave malo.

Lydvs

Quid? cave malo?

Pistoclervs

Iam excessit mi aetas ex magisterio tuo.

Lydvs

O barathrum, ubi nunc es? ut ego te usurpem lubens.

video nimio iam multo plus quam volueram.
150

vixisse nimio satiust iam quam vivere.

magistron quemquam discipulum minitarier?

nil moror discipulos mihi iam plenos sanguinis:

valens afflictat me vacivom virium.

Pistoclervs

Fiam, ut ego opinor, Hercules, tu autem Linus.
155

Lydvs

Pol metuo magis, ne Phoenix tuis factis fuam

teque ad patrem esse mortuom renuntiem.

Pistoclervs

Satis historiarumst.

Lydvs

Hic vereri perdidit.

compendium edepol haud aetati optabile

fecisti, cum istanc nactu's nactu s es inpudentiam.
160

occisus hic homo est. ecquid in mentem est tibi

patrem tibi esse?

Pistoclervs

Tibi ego an tu mihi servos es?

Lydvs

Peior magister te istaec docuit, non ego.

nimio es tu ad istas res discipulus docilior,

quam ad illa quae te docui, ubi operam perdidi.
165

edepol fecisti furtum in aetatem malum

cum istaec flagitia me celavisti et patrem.

Pistoclervs

Istactenus tibi, Lyde, libertas datast

orationis. satis est. sequere hac me ac tace.—

Bacchides. T. Maccius Plautus. ed. Friedrich Leo. Berlin. 1895.

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Bacchides (Latin) (Plautus. Plauti Comoediae, Volume 1. Leo, Friedrich, editor. Berlin: Weidmann, 1895.)

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Bacchides, or The Twin Sisters Perseus (Plautus. The Comedies of Plautus, Volume 1. Riley, Henry Thomas, translator. London: G. Bell and Sons, Ltd., 1912.) — 1.2 focus

109 (Enter PISTOCLERUS, accompanied by People with Provisions for the Entertainment, followed by LYDES.)

LYDUS

For some time, Pistoclerus, I’ve been following you in silence¹,

watching what you were doing in this dress². For, so may the Gods favour me, even Lycurgus himself³ seems to me as if he could be led into debauchery here. Whither now are you betaking yourself hence in an opposite direction with such a train?
110

PISTOCLERUS

To this place (pointing to the house.)

LYDUS

Why to this place? Who lives there?

PISTOCLERUS

Love, Pleasure, Venus, Beauty, Joy, Jesting, Dalliance, Converse, and Sweet-kissing.
115

LYDUS

What intercourse have you with these most destructive Deities?

PISTOCLERUS

Bad are those men who speak evil of the good. You speak not well of even the Gods themselves; you do what is not right.

LTD.

Is Sweet-kissing, then, some God?
120

PISTOCLERUS

And do you not think she is? O Lydus, why, what a barbarians⁴ you are, you, whom I had deemed to be far more wise than Thales hinself⁵. Go to, you are more foolish than Potitius, the foreigner⁶, who, at an age so advanced, knew not the names of the Divinities.

LYDUS

This dress of yours pleases me not.
125

PISTOCLERUS

But no one prepared it for you; it was prepared for myself, whom it pleases well.

LYDUS

And do you commence upon your repartees against myself even? You, who, if you had even ten tongues, ought to be silent.

PISTOCLERUS

Not every age, Lydus, is suited for school⁷.

One thing especially is just now on my mind, how the cook may with due care attend to these things as befits the elegance of the entertainment.
130

LYDUS

Now have you undone yourself and me and all my labours, me who so oft have shown you what is right, all to no purpose.

PISTOCLERUS

In the same place have I lost my labour where you’ve lost yours: your instructions profit neither me nor yourself.

LYDUS

O obdurate heart!

PISTOCLERUS

You are troublesome to me. Hold your tongue, Lydus, and follow me.

LYDUS

Now, see that, please; he no longer calls⁸ me tutor, but mere Lydus.

PISTOCLERUS

It seems not proper, nor can it be fit, that,

when a person is in a house, and is reclining at the feast together with his mistress, and is kissing her, and the other guests are reclining too, the tutor should be there too in their presence.
140

LYDUS

Are these provisions purchased for such a purpose, pray?

PISTOCLERUS

My intentions, indeed, expect so; how it falls out, is in the hands of the Gods.

LYDUS

Will you be having a mistress?
145

PISTOCLERUS

When you see, then you’ll know.

LYDUS

Aye, but you shall not have one, and I won’t allow it. Go back again home.

PISTOCLERUS

Do leave me alone, Lydus, and beware of mischief⁹.

LYDUS

What? Beware of mischief?

O yawning gulf, where art thou now? How gladly would I avail myself of thee!

Already have I lived far longer than I could have wished.
150

’Twere much better now to have once existed than to be living still.

That any pupil should thus threaten his tutor!

PISTOCLERUS

My years are now advanced beyond your tutorship.

LYDUS

I want no pupils for me with heated blood¹⁰.

An up-grown one may harass me thus devoid of strength.

PISTOCLERUS

As I guess, I shall become a Hercules, and you a Linus¹¹.
155

LYDUS

I’ faith, I fear more that through your goings-on I shall become a Phœnix¹², and have to tell the news to your father that you are dead.

PISTOCLERUS

Enough of these stories.

LYDUS

This youth is lost to shame¹³;

the man’s ruined. And does it then recur to you that you have a father?

PISTOCLERUS

Am I your servant, or you mine?

LYDUS

By my troth, you made an exchange not desirable for that age of yours,

when you gained these impudent ways.
160

Some bad master has been teaching you all this, not I. You are a scholar far more apt at these pursuits

than at those lessons which I taught you when I was losing my labour. Troth, ’twas a bad piece of deceit you were guilty of at your age, when you concealed these vicious tendencies from myself and from your father.
165

PISTOCLERUS

Lydus, you have thus far had liberty of speech; that is enough. So now do you follow this way, and hold your tongue¹⁴.

(They go into the house of BACCHIS.)

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Lydvs Iam dudum, Pistoclere, tacitus te sequor, expectans quas tu res hoc ornatu geras. 110 namque ita me di ament, ut Lycurgus mihi quidem videtur posse hic ad nequitiam adducier. quo nunc capessis ted hinc adversa via cum tanta pompa?

Pistoclervs Húc.

Lydvs Quid huc? quis istíc habet?

Pistoclervs Amor, Voluptas, Venus, Venustas, Gaudium, 115 Iocus, Lúdus, Sermo, Suavisaviatio.

Lydvs Quid tibi commercist cum dis damnosissimis?

Pistoclervs Mali sunt homines, qui bonis dicunt male; tu dis nec recte dicis: non aequom facis.

Lydvs An deus est ullus Suavisaviatio? 120

Pistoclervs An non putasti esse umquam? o Lyde, es barbarus; quem ego sapere nimio censui plus quam Thalem, is stultior es barbaro poticio, qui tantus natu deorum nescis nomina.

Lydvs Non hic placet mi ornatus. 125

Pistoclervs Nemo ergo tibi haec apparavit: mihi paratum est quoi placet.

Lydvs Etiam me advorsus exordire argutias? qui si decem habeas linguas, mutum esse addecet.

Pistoclervs Non omnis aetas, Lyde, ludo convenit. magis unum in mentemst mihi nunc, satis ut commode 130 pro dignitate opsoni haec concuret cocus.

Lydvs Iam perdidisti te atque me atque operam meam, qui tibi nequiquam saepe monstravi bene.

Pistoclervs Ibidem égo meam operam perdidi, ubi tu tuam: tua disciplina nec mihi prodest nec tibi. 135

Lydvs O praeligatum pectus.

Pistoclervs Odiosus mihi es. tace atque sequere, Lyde, me.

Lydvs Illuc sis vide, non paedagogum iam me, sed Lydum vocat.

Pistoclervs Non par videtur neque sit consentaneum, cum haec qui emit intus sit et cúm amica accubet 140 cumque osculetur et convivae alii accubent, praesentibus illis paedagogus una ut siet.

Lydvs An hoc ad eas res opsonatumst, obsecro?

Pistoclervs Sperat quidem animus: quo evenat dis in manust.

Lydvs Tu amicam habebis? 145

Pistoclervs Cum videbis, tum scies.

Lydvs Immo neque habebis neque sinam. i prorsum domum.

Pistoclervs Omitte, Lyde, ac cave malo.

Lydvs Quid? cave malo?

Pistoclervs Iam excessit mi aetas ex magisterio tuo.

Lydvs O barathrum, ubi nunc es? ut ego te usurpem lubens. video nimio iam multo plus quam volueram. 150 vixisse nimio satiust iam quam vivere. magistron quemquam discipulum minitarier? nil moror discipulos mihi iam plenos sanguinis: valens afflictat me vacivom virium.

Pistoclervs Fiam, ut ego opinor, Hercules, tu autem Linus. 155

Lydvs Pol metuo magis, ne Phoenix tuis factis fuam teque ad patrem esse mortuom renuntiem.

Pistoclervs Satis historiarumst.

Lydvs Hic vereri perdidit. compendium edepol haud aetati optabile fecisti, cum istanc nactu's nactu s es inpudentiam. 160 occisus hic homo est. ecquid in mentem est tibi patrem tibi esse?

Pistoclervs Tibi ego an tu mihi servos es?

Lydvs Peior magister te istaec docuit, non ego. nimio es tu ad istas res discipulus docilior, quam ad illa quae te docui, ubi operam perdidi. 165 edepol fecisti furtum in aetatem malum cum istaec flagitia me celavisti et patrem.

Pistoclervs Istactenus tibi, Lyde, libertas datast orationis. satis est. sequere hac me ac tace.—

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PISTOCLERUS To this place (pointing to the house.)

LYDUS Why to this place? Who lives there?

PISTOCLERUS Love, Pleasure, Venus, Beauty, Joy, Jesting, Dalliance, Converse, and Sweet-kissing. 115

LYDUS What intercourse have you with these most destructive Deities?

PISTOCLERUS Bad are those men who speak evil of the good. You speak not well of even the Gods themselves; you do what is not right.

LTD. Is Sweet-kissing, then, some God? 120

PISTOCLERUS And do you not think she is? O Lydus, why, what a barbarians 4 you are, you, whom I had deemed to be far more wise than Thales hinself 5 . Go to, you are more foolish than Potitius, the foreigner 6 , who, at an age so advanced, knew not the names of the Divinities.

LYDUS This dress of yours pleases me not. 125

PISTOCLERUS But no one prepared it for you; it was prepared for myself, whom it pleases well.

LYDUS And do you commence upon your repartees against myself even? You, who, if you had even ten tongues, ought to be silent.

PISTOCLERUS Not every age, Lydus, is suited for school 7 . One thing especially is just now on my mind, how the cook may with due care attend to these things as befits the elegance of the entertainment. 130

LYDUS Now have you undone yourself and me and all my labours, me who so oft have shown you what is right, all to no purpose.

PISTOCLERUS In the same place have I lost my labour where you’ve lost yours: your instructions profit neither me nor yourself.

LYDUS O obdurate heart!

PISTOCLERUS You are troublesome to me. Hold your tongue, Lydus, and follow me.

LYDUS Now, see that, please; he no longer calls 8 me tutor, but mere Lydus.

PISTOCLERUS It seems not proper, nor can it be fit, that, when a person is in a house, and is reclining at the feast together with his mistress, and is kissing her, and the other guests are reclining too, the tutor should be there too in their presence. 140

LYDUS Are these provisions purchased for such a purpose, pray?

PISTOCLERUS My intentions, indeed, expect so; how it falls out, is in the hands of the Gods.

LYDUS Will you be having a mistress? 145

PISTOCLERUS When you see, then you’ll know.

LYDUS Aye, but you shall not have one, and I won’t allow it. Go back again home.

PISTOCLERUS Do leave me alone, Lydus, and beware of mischief 9 .

LYDUS What? Beware of mischief? O yawning gulf, where art thou now? How gladly would I avail myself of thee! Already have I lived far longer than I could have wished. 150 ’Twere much better now to have once existed than to be living still. That any pupil should thus threaten his tutor!

PISTOCLERUS My years are now advanced beyond your tutorship.

LYDUS I want no pupils for me with heated blood 10 . An up-grown one may harass me thus devoid of strength.

PISTOCLERUS As I guess, I shall become a Hercules, and you a Linus 11 . 155

LYDUS I’ faith, I fear more that through your goings-on I shall become a Phœnix 12 , and have to tell the news to your father that you are dead.

PISTOCLERUS Enough of these stories.

LYDUS This youth is lost to shame 13 ; the man’s ruined. And does it then recur to you that you have a father?

PISTOCLERUS Am I your servant, or you mine?

PISTOCLERUS Lydus, you have thus far had liberty of speech; that is enough. So now do you follow this way, and hold your tongue 14 . (They go into the house of BACCHIS.)

Stable identifiers

Lydvs

Iam dudum, Pistoclere, tacitus te sequor,

expectans quas tu res hoc ornatu geras.
110

namque ita me di ament, ut Lycurgus mihi quidem

videtur posse hic ad nequitiam adducier.

quo nunc capessis ted hinc adversa via

cum tanta pompa?

Pistoclervs

Húc.

Lydvs

Quid huc? quis istíc habet?

Pistoclervs

Amor, Voluptas, Venus, Venustas, Gaudium,
115

Iocus, Lúdus, Sermo, Suavisaviatio.

Lydvs

Quid tibi commercist cum dis damnosissimis?

Pistoclervs

Mali sunt homines, qui bonis dicunt male;

tu dis nec recte dicis: non aequom facis.

Lydvs

An deus est ullus Suavisaviatio?
120

Pistoclervs

An non putasti esse umquam? o Lyde, es barbarus;

quem ego sapere nimio censui plus quam Thalem,

is stultior es barbaro poticio,

qui tantus natu deorum nescis nomina.

Lydvs

Non hic placet mi ornatus.
125

Pistoclervs

Nemo ergo tibi

haec apparavit: mihi paratum est quoi placet.

Lydvs

Etiam me advorsus exordire argutias?

qui si decem habeas linguas, mutum esse addecet.

Pistoclervs

Non omnis aetas, Lyde, ludo convenit.

magis unum in mentemst mihi nunc, satis ut commode
130

pro dignitate opsoni haec concuret cocus.

Lydvs

Iam perdidisti te atque me atque operam meam,

qui tibi nequiquam saepe monstravi bene.

Pistoclervs

Ibidem égo meam operam perdidi, ubi tu tuam:

tua disciplina nec mihi prodest nec tibi.
135

Lydvs

O praeligatum pectus.

Pistoclervs

Odiosus mihi es.

tace atque sequere, Lyde, me.

Lydvs

Illuc sis vide,

non paedagogum iam me, sed Lydum vocat.

Pistoclervs

Non par videtur neque sit consentaneum,

cum haec qui emit intus sit et cúm amica accubet
140

cumque osculetur et convivae alii accubent,

praesentibus illis paedagogus una ut siet.

Lydvs

An hoc ad eas res opsonatumst, obsecro?

Pistoclervs

Sperat quidem animus: quo evenat dis in manust.

Lydvs

Tu amicam habebis?
145

Pistoclervs

Cum videbis, tum scies.

Lydvs

Immo neque habebis neque sinam. i prorsum domum.

Pistoclervs

Omitte, Lyde, ac cave malo.

Lydvs

Quid? cave malo?

Pistoclervs

Iam excessit mi aetas ex magisterio tuo.

Lydvs

O barathrum, ubi nunc es? ut ego te usurpem lubens.

video nimio iam multo plus quam volueram.
150

vixisse nimio satiust iam quam vivere.

magistron quemquam discipulum minitarier?

nil moror discipulos mihi iam plenos sanguinis:

valens afflictat me vacivom virium.

Pistoclervs

Fiam, ut ego opinor, Hercules, tu autem Linus.
155

Lydvs

Pol metuo magis, ne Phoenix tuis factis fuam

teque ad patrem esse mortuom renuntiem.

Pistoclervs

Satis historiarumst.

Lydvs

Hic vereri perdidit.

compendium edepol haud aetati optabile

fecisti, cum istanc nactu's nactu s es inpudentiam.
160

occisus hic homo est. ecquid in mentem est tibi

patrem tibi esse?

Pistoclervs

Tibi ego an tu mihi servos es?

Lydvs

Peior magister te istaec docuit, non ego.

nimio es tu ad istas res discipulus docilior,

quam ad illa quae te docui, ubi operam perdidi.
165

edepol fecisti furtum in aetatem malum

cum istaec flagitia me celavisti et patrem.

Pistoclervs

Istactenus tibi, Lyde, libertas datast

orationis. satis est. sequere hac me ac tace.—

PISTOCLERUS

To this place (pointing to the house.)

LYDUS

Why to this place? Who lives there?

PISTOCLERUS

Love, Pleasure, Venus, Beauty, Joy, Jesting, Dalliance, Converse, and Sweet-kissing.
115

LYDUS

What intercourse have you with these most destructive Deities?

PISTOCLERUS

Bad are those men who speak evil of the good. You speak not well of even the Gods themselves; you do what is not right.

LTD.

Is Sweet-kissing, then, some God?
120

PISTOCLERUS

And do you not think she is? O Lydus, why, what a barbarians⁴ you are, you, whom I had deemed to be far more wise than Thales hinself⁵. Go to, you are more foolish than Potitius, the foreigner⁶, who, at an age so advanced, knew not the names of the Divinities.

LYDUS

This dress of yours pleases me not.
125

PISTOCLERUS

But no one prepared it for you; it was prepared for myself, whom it pleases well.

LYDUS

And do you commence upon your repartees against myself even? You, who, if you had even ten tongues, ought to be silent.

PISTOCLERUS

Not every age, Lydus, is suited for school⁷.

One thing especially is just now on my mind, how the cook may with due care attend to these things as befits the elegance of the entertainment.
130

LYDUS

Now have you undone yourself and me and all my labours, me who so oft have shown you what is right, all to no purpose.

PISTOCLERUS

In the same place have I lost my labour where you’ve lost yours: your instructions profit neither me nor yourself.

LYDUS

O obdurate heart!

PISTOCLERUS

You are troublesome to me. Hold your tongue, Lydus, and follow me.

LYDUS

Now, see that, please; he no longer calls⁸ me tutor, but mere Lydus.

PISTOCLERUS

It seems not proper, nor can it be fit, that,

when a person is in a house, and is reclining at the feast together with his mistress, and is kissing her, and the other guests are reclining too, the tutor should be there too in their presence.
140

LYDUS

Are these provisions purchased for such a purpose, pray?

PISTOCLERUS

My intentions, indeed, expect so; how it falls out, is in the hands of the Gods.

LYDUS

Will you be having a mistress?
145

PISTOCLERUS

When you see, then you’ll know.

LYDUS

Aye, but you shall not have one, and I won’t allow it. Go back again home.

PISTOCLERUS

Do leave me alone, Lydus, and beware of mischief⁹.

LYDUS

What? Beware of mischief?

O yawning gulf, where art thou now? How gladly would I avail myself of thee!

Already have I lived far longer than I could have wished.
150

’Twere much better now to have once existed than to be living still.

That any pupil should thus threaten his tutor!

PISTOCLERUS

My years are now advanced beyond your tutorship.

LYDUS

I want no pupils for me with heated blood¹⁰.

An up-grown one may harass me thus devoid of strength.

PISTOCLERUS

As I guess, I shall become a Hercules, and you a Linus¹¹.
155

LYDUS

I’ faith, I fear more that through your goings-on I shall become a Phœnix¹², and have to tell the news to your father that you are dead.

PISTOCLERUS

Enough of these stories.

LYDUS

This youth is lost to shame¹³;

the man’s ruined. And does it then recur to you that you have a father?

PISTOCLERUS

Am I your servant, or you mine?

PISTOCLERUS

Lydus, you have thus far had liberty of speech; that is enough. So now do you follow this way, and hold your tongue¹⁴.

(They go into the house of BACCHIS.)