Aristotle Poetics 26.6

Thomas Twining (Translator)

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But now, in the first place, this censure falls, not upon the Poet's art, but upon that of the actor; for the gesticulation may be equally laboured in the recitation of an Epic Poem, as it was by Sostratus; and in singing, as by Mnasitheus, the Opuntian.

Poetics. Aristotle. Thomas Twining (Translator). London, UK. 1789.

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The Poetic of Aristotle (Henry James Pye, revised 1792) (OCR draft) Experimental (Henry James Pye's revised 1792 English translation, corrected against the 1788 first edition, aligned to the Kassel reference edition, and supplied with a selective apparatus of substantive 1788 readings.) — 26.6 focus
But, in the first place, this accusation does not affect the poet, but the actor. And, besides, it is possible to use too much action in reciting epic poetry, as was practised by Sosistratus, and even in singing, as was done by Mnastheus of Opus.
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In the first place, however, this accusation does not pertain to the poet, but the actor; since it is possible in reciting epic poetry to overdo action, as Sosistratus did, and singing likewise, as Mnastheus of Opus did. In the next place, neither is all motion to be despised, since neither is every kind of dancing, 1 2 but only that which is bad;
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Mais premierement tout ce qu'on vient de dire contre la Tragedie n'eſt pas contre l'art du Poëte, c'eſt contre celuy de l'Acteur. Outre que ce défaut n'eſt pas moins commun à ceux qui recitent un Poëme Epique, comme Soſtrate, ou qui le chantent, comme Mneſitheus d'Opunte; car les uns & les autres accompagnent leur recit ou leur chant de geſtes auſſi outrez.

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1461b27 φορτική, 'common' or 'vulgar' ( comp. Twining ad loc.), as in Pol. 8. 5, 1340 b9
τούτων [i.e. τῶν ἦθος κινητικὸν ἐχόντων ῥυθμῶν] οἱ μὲν φορτικωτέρας ἔχουσι τὰς κινήσεις οἱ δὲ ἐλευθεριωτέρας
.— Pol. 8. 6, 1341 b8
οὐ τῆς αὑτοῦ μεταχειρίζεται χάριν ἀρετῆς, ἀλλὰ τῆς τῶν ἀκουόντων ἡδονῆς, καὶ ταύτης φορτικῆς. διόπερ οὐ τῶν ἐλευθέρων κρίνομεν εἶναι τὴν ἐργασίαν ἀλλὰ θητικωτέραν. καὶ βαναύσους δὴ συμβαίνει γίγνεσθαι· πονηρὸς γὰρ ὁ σκοπὸς πρὸς ὃν ποιοῦνται τὸ τέλος. ὁ γὰρ θεατὴς φορτικὸς ὢν μεταβάλλειν εἴωθε τὴν μουσικήν
. Comp. also Aristophanes Vesp. 66
κωμῳδίας δὲ φορτικῆς σοφώτερον
, and the Platonic passages in Ast, Lex. s. v. The word is sometimes taken here in the sense of 'extravagant' or 'overdone' ('überladen', Bernays, Zwei Abh. p. 182).

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1461b27_2 τοιαύτη, i. e. ἧττον φορτική: comp. An. post. 1. 24, 85 a29
εἰ δὴ βελτίων μὲν ἡ καθ᾽ αὑτό [scil. ἀπόδειξις], τοιαύτη δ᾽ ἡ κατὰ μέρος ... καὶ βελτίων ἂν ἡ κατὰ μέρος ἀπόδειξις εἴη
—where τοιαύτη recalls the idea of the καθ᾽ αὑτό which precedes. The form of argument in this chapter of the Posterior Analytics is very similar to that in the present section of the Poetics.

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1461b28 θεατάς. The term is sometimes used even of the audience of a purely musical performance ( Pol. 8. 7, 1341 b 16 ; Plato Gorg. 502 A ).

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1461b28_2 ἀεί. For the position of the word comp. Eth. N. 1. 5, 1097 b 19
ἀγαθῶν τὸ μεῖζον αἱρετώτερον ἀεί
.— Pol. 4. 14, 1298b 40
ἐπανάγεται εἰς τοὺς πλείστους αἰεί
.

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1461b28_3 λίαν qualifies the following φορτική ( Bon. Ind. 430b15 ). For the insertion of δῆλον ὅτι comp. Bon. Ind. 173 b31 .

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1461b29 πρὸς ἅπαντα. The traditional reading, ἡ ἅπαντα μιμουμένη, which is explained as meaning 'the imitation which extends to every circumstance' ( Twining), or 'quae motu et gestibus omnia similat' ( Vahlen), does not fit into the argument in this passage, though it may perhaps seem to be confirmed by Plato Rep. 397 A . The logic of the present argument requires not ἅπαντα but πρὸς ἅπαντα ( v. J. of Phil. 5 p. 121 ). The sense is that Tragedy is φορτική because, instead of appealing to a select public ( πρὸς θεατὰς ἐπιεικεῖς, 1462 a2 ), it is πρὸς ἅπαντα, or as we are told a little further on, πρὸς φαύλους ( 1462a3 ). For this use of ἅπαντα ('any one and every one') comp. Top. 8. 14, 164 b 8
οὐχ ἅπαντι δὲ διαλεκτέον οὐδὲ πρὸς τὸν τυχόντα γυμναστέον
. — Soph. el. 5, 167a10
παντὶ θεωρῆσαι ῥᾳδιον
. Aristotle's estimate of the average θεατής in the theatres may be seen from 13, 1453 b 34 , and from the distinction in Pol. 8. 7, 1342 a 18
ὁ θεατὴς διττός, ὁ μὲν ἐλεύθερος καὶ πεπαιδευμένος, ὁ δὲ φορτικὸς ἐκ βαναύσων καὶ θητῶν καὶ ἄλλων τοιούτων συγκείμενος
. Plato had an equally mean opinion of the theatrical public of his day: Gorg. 502 c
οὐκοῦν πρὸς πολὺν ὄχλον καὶ δῆμον οὗτοι λέγονται οἱ λόγοι
[i.e. those of the tragedians]; . . . νῦν ἄρα ἡμεῖς ηὑρήκαμεν ῥητορικήν τινα πρὸς δῆμον τοιοῦτον οἷον παίδων τε ὁμοῦ καὶ γυναικῶν καὶ ἀνδρῶν, καὶ δούλων καὶ ἐλευθέρων ( comp. Laws 658 D ).
1461b29_2

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26.2 3. Que celle qui imite tout.] 1

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NOTE 263.

26.2 P. 132. IF THAT WHICH IS THE LEAST VULGAR OR POPULAR BE THE BEST.
—
Ἧττον ΦΟΡΤΙΚΗ.
— The word
φορτικόν
is used in a number of different, and sometimes nicely discriminated, senses, which cannot, all of them, be expressed by any single word in our lan- guage. Sometimes, for example, it is to be rendered by extravagant, violent, charged, outré, &c. as in the following passage of Diog. Laertius about Bion : —
ἦν δὲ καὶ θεατρικὸς, καὶ πολὺς ἐν τῷ γελοἰῳ διαφορῆσαι, ΦΟΡΤΙΚΟΙΣ ὀνόμασι κατὰ τῶν πραγμάτων χρώμενος.
1 i. e. extravagant, exaggerated, outrés, as Bayle has well explained it, art. BION, note [B], where he gives an instance of this extravagance of expression in that philosopher, from Plutarch , who calls it
ΦΟΡΤΙΚΩΤΕΡΟΝ
. 2
Sometimes, applied to persons, it means troublesome, tiresome, &c. as in Aelian—πολὺς ἦν λαλῶν, καὶ ἐδόκει ΦΟΡΤΙΚΟΣ. Var. Hist. XII. 13. — Sometimes, insolent, overbearing, &c. as, in the same writer, it is said of a famous courtesan, —
Ἡ δὲ ἦν ΥΠΕΡΗΦΑΝΟΣ καὶ δεινῶς ΦΟΡΤΙΚΗ,
XII. 63 . 3 — Sometimes, again, and that very frequently, it is used as synonymous with
ἀνελεύθερος, βάναυσος
, popular, low, vulgar, &c. as opposed to what is liberal, refined, delicate, genteel, &c. 4 Thus Plutarch—ἀνελευθέρους κομιδῇ καὶ ΦΟΡΤΙΚΑΣ φαντασίας. P. 216, ed. H. S. And Plato—ὁ φιλότιμος τὴν μὲν ἀπὸ τῶν χρημάτων ἡδονὴν ΦΟΡΤΙΚΗΝ τινα ἡγεῖται —
"The ambitious man looks upon gain as a vulgar sort of pleasure,"
De Rep. IX. p. 254, ed. Mass. Jul. Pollux describes a species of dance called
Μόθων
, as,
ΦΟΡΤΙΚΟΝ ὄρχημα καὶ ναυτικὸν
—
"a vulgar and sailor-like dance;"
the hornpipe, I suppose, of the Greeks. 5 And thus Athenæus , where he mentions, from Herodotus , the curious story of Agarista, (the daughter of Clisthenes, king of Sicyon,) and her suitors, says, that Clisthenes rejected Hippoclides,
ἰδὼν—ΦΟΡΤΙΚΩΣ ὀρχησάμενον
: because he did not dance like a gentleman; a charge, which, according to Herodotus, seems indeed to have been pretty well founded; for he tells us, that Hippoclides got upon a table and danced upon his head. 6
But let us return to Aristotle. This last sense of the word
φορτικόν
appears to me clearly to be that, in which it is here used by him. I cannot think, that by
φορτική
, he intended to express, as Dacier, and the commentators before him, explain it, the trouble and expense of theatrical exhibition—the number of things wanted—actors, scenes, dresses, music, &c. 7 Of all the commentators I have seen, M. Batteux alone gives, in a short note, what I think the true meaning of the word in this place:
"Φορτικός, grossier, digne des mercenaires. Aristote, Politic. VIII. c. 6. oppose le spectateur mercenaire & ignorant,
φορτικός
, au spectateur honnête; & le plaisir grossier,
ἡδονὴ φορτική
, les danses grossieres,
κινήσεις φορτικωτέρας
, au plaisir delicat, aux danses honnêtes."
Aristotle himself will here be his best commentator, in the passages to which M. Batteux refers. Some sorts of rhythm, he says,
ΦΟΡΤΙΚΩΤΕΡΑΣ ἔχουσι τὰς κινήσεις
, (violent and vulgar,)
αἱ δὲ, ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΙΩΤΕΡΑΣ.
8 Again, in the next chapter, relative to the musical education of youth, he speaks of the pleasure of a popular musical audience, as a vulgar, illiberal sort of pleasure.
"The performer there,"
he says,
"aims only at the pleasure of the hearers,
καὶ ταύτης ΦΟΡΤΙΚΗΣ· διόπερ οὐ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΩΝ κρίνομεν εἶναι τὴν ἐργασίαν,
("such performance does not become a gentleman,")
ἀλλὰ ΘΗΤΙΚΩΤΕΡΑΝ
(the playing of a man who is paid for playing:)
καὶ ΒΑΝΑΥΣΟΥΣ δὴ
(mechanics)
συμβαίνει γίγνεσθαι· πονηρὸς γὰρ ὁ σκοπὸς πρὸς ὃν ποιοῦνται τὸ τέλος· ὁ γὰρ ΘΕΑΤΗΣ, ΦΟΡΤΙΚΟΣ ὢν, μεταβάλλειν εἴωθε τὴν μουσικήν—."
9 10 — In the next chapter is the following passage, still more directly to our present purpose, in which he expressly distinguishes, as here, the two sorts of spectators, or hearers:—
θεατὴς διττὸς, ὁ μὲν ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΟΣ καὶ ΠΕΠΑΙΔΕΥΜΕΝΟΣ, ὁ δὲ ΦΟΡΤΙΚΟΣ, ἐκ βαναύσων, καὶ θητῶν, καὶ ἄλλων τοιούτων, συγκείμενος.
11
The word occurs frequently in other parts of Aristotle's writings, and seems generally, if not always, to be used in the same sense. 12 By
φορτική
, then, applied to Tragedy, I think it clear, that he means only—calculated for
φορτικοὶ
spectators; adapted to the entertainment of popular audiences—to the taste, as we commonly express it, of the upper gallery, as opposed to the refined and cultivated taste of men of reading and reflection. 13 As far as I can judge, from a comparison of the different senses of the word with its etymology, 14 the common idea, which runs through and connects them all, is that of excess, or, perhaps, more exactly, of offensive, disgusting, or burdensome, by excess, of some kind or other.

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Ritter, cap. 26 § 1

Epica poesis et tragica ita secum conferuntur ut, refutatis quae epopoeiae palmam deferre videantur argumentis, explicetur quibus rebus tragoedia antecellat epopoeiam. SA nam Quae hoc capite dicta legimus, ad auctorem quod attinet, cum illis quas modo ex aureo Aristotelis libro secrevimus sordibus, etiam haec aut stabunt aut concident. quemadmodum in praecedentibus tota quasi quaestionum solutionumque doctrina pertractatur, sic nunc singulare quoddam et nobile πρόβλημα, utrum genus poesis praestantius sit, epicumne an tragicum, solvitur. sed quamquam ex iis quae de νοθείᾳ capitis praegressi dicta sunt, sponte consequitur hoc quoque caput vicesimum sextum Aristoteli tribui non posse, sed idem cum vicesimo quinto ad eundem incertumque auctorem referendum esse, illud tamen sic se habere ex his praeterea indiciis colligitur. 1. disputandi genus per totam hanc explicationem arte caret et magno philosopho indignum est. 2. quae docentur magnam partem hausta sunt ex prioribus et male repetita. 3. nonnulla prioribus a vero Aristotele expositis repugnant. 4. enuntiatorum structura grammatica aliquotiens laborat. 5. voces aliquot insunt a dictione Aristotelis alienae. haec vitia interim sub unum conspectum collecta statim, ubi ad singula accesserimus enodanda, detegere conabimur. πότερον δὲ βελτίων - διαπορήσειεν ἄν τις: iustum vinculum deesse, quo haec antecedentibus adnectantur, manifestum est. nimirum interpolator alieno operi sua bis imperite et sinistre intexuit, primum (c. 25, 1) sic: περὶ δὲ προβλημάτων καὶ λύσεων ὧδ' ἂν θεωροῦσι γένοιτ' ἂν φανερόν, secundum (c. 26, 1) sic: πότερον δὲ βελτίων ἡ ἐποποιικὴ μίμησις ἢ ἡ τραγική, διαπορήσειεν ἄν τις. • .. εἰ γὰρ ἡ ἧττον φορτική βελτίων-ἡ ἅπαντα μιμουμένη φορτική: condicionalis enuntiatio, nam si minus molesta (imitatio) melior, talis autem (melior) est quae melioribus convenit spectatoribus, non eo consilio praemittitur, ut haec altera, in aperto est eam quae omnia imitatur molestam esse, illi obnoxia inde colligatur, sed post condicionalem sequitur novum pronuntiatum quod per se non minus certum quam praegressum interim proponitur. Germanice convertas: denn wenn (einer Seits) die minder überladene (Darstellungsweise) besser ist .., so ist (andrer Seits) klar, dass die alles darstellende überladen ist, difficile et obscurum eloquendi genus agnoscas. φορτική μίμησις est quae multa molitur ad finem suum consequendum, quam etiam περιεργαζομένην appellaveris. vid. §. 3. alterum quod notamus pertinet ad verba μίμησις μιμουμένη, ubi μίμησις universe pro poesi dicitur, μιμουμένη autem de ea imitatione in qua persona alterius ab imitante suscipitur. ὡς γὰρ οὐκ αἰσθανομένων κτλ. iam ostendere conatur primum φορτικὴν esse quae omnia imitando peragat, tum talem esse artem tragicam, postremo τὴν φορτικὴν sive molestam simul esse peiorem ( χείρονα). in proximis ter subiecta obscure et vitiose pro malo huius hominis more significantur: nam ad αἰσθανομένων cogitatione supplendum est τῶν θεατῶν, ad αὐτὸς is qui opus quoddam imitativum exhibet, ad κινοῦνται ii qui id opus agunt. prae ceteris nomen αὐτὸς vitiose positum est, non minus quam c.6,8. οὐκ ὀλίγοι αὐτῶν, ubi interpolatorem agnovimus. - οἷον οἱ φαῦλοι αὐληταί κυλίομενοι, ἂν δίσκον δέῃ μιμεῖσθαι: tibicines disci motum non sonis tibiarum sed corpore volvendo sive iactando imitaturi alienam operam interponunt. κυλιόμενοι dictum est ὑπερβολικῶς de iis tibicinibus qui corpus suum inter canendum iactant et torquent, non de volutantibus et in rotae modum se vertentibus: id enim fieri non posse manifestum est. ipsa verbi κυλίεσθαι forma pro κυλίνδεσθαι apud poetas Alexandro Magno aetate minores, ut apud Theocritum Idyll. 24, 18. Callimachum in Apollin. Del. v. 33. et plures epigrammatum scriptores, non raro invenitur. conf. Iacobsii Notae crit. in Antholog. p. 139. 590. 787. sed in prosa oratione illa forma nunquam invaluit, quamquam nonnulla eius vestigia etiam in hac reperiuntur, ut apud Porphyr. de Abstin. II, 52. οἷς μέντοι ὁ βίος ἔξω κυλίεται. καὶ ἕλκοντες τὸν κορυφαῖον, ἂν Σκύλλαν αὐλῶσιν: tibicines, qua tibicines sunt, solo tibiarum concentu Scyllam imitari par est, mali autem sonis non satis confidentes corporis motus adhibent, ita ut coryphaeum Scyllam effugere nitentem trahant. Scyllam hanc esse fabulam Euripideam c. 15, 5. memoratam non est cur dubitemus affirmare.