Aristotle Poetics 24.8

Thomas Twining (Translator)

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With respect to metre, the heroic is established by experience as the most proper; so that, should any one compose a narrative Poem in any other, or in a variety of metres, he would be thought guilty of a great impropriety.

Poetics. Aristotle. Thomas Twining (Translator). London, UK. 1789.

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Poetics (Thomas Twining, 1789) (OCR draft) (English) (Thomas Twining's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1789 and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.)

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Editions (4)
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) (Aristotle, Poetics. Immanuel Bekker, editor, Aristotelis Opera, volume 2. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1837.) — 24 focus
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) Perseus (Aristotle, De arte poetica liber. Rudolf Kassel, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1965. Reference edition for passage alignment.) — 24 focus
Poetics, Greek text (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's Greek text of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 24 focus
Poetics, Greek text (Franz Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's 1839 Greek edition, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 24 focus
Translations (13)
Poetics (W. H. Fyfe) (OCR draft) Perseus (William Hamilton Fyfe's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, Loeb Classical Library, 1939 printing.) — 24 focus
Arabic Poetics (Badawī edition, 1953) (OCR draft) (The ancient Arabic translation of Aristotle's Poetics in ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Badawī's 1953 edition.) — 24 focus
Poetics (S. H. Butcher, 1911) (OCR draft) Experimental (S. H. Butcher's English translation from Aristotle's Theory of Poetry and Fine Art, fourth edition, 1911.) — 24 focus
Aristotle on the Art of Poetry (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 24 focus
The Poetic of Aristotle (Henry James Pye, revised 1792) (OCR draft) Experimental (Henry James Pye's revised 1792 English translation, corrected against the 1788 first edition, aligned to the Kassel reference edition, and supplied with a selective apparatus of substantive 1788 readings.) — 24.8 focus
for if a narrative imitation were to be attempted in any other sort of verse or in many sorts mixed, the impropriety would be apparent. The heroic measure excels every other kind in dignity and elevation;
The Poetic of Aristotle (Theodore Alois Buckley) (OCR draft) Experimental (Theodore Alois Buckley's English translation, first published in 1850 and represented from the Henry G. Bohn 1857 printing; corrected against a second OCR and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 24.8 focus
But heroic metre is established by experience as adapted to the epopee. For if any one should attempt narrative imitation in any other metre, or in many 1 2 metres mingled together, the unfitness of it would be apparent. For heroic metre is of all others the most stable and ample.
Poetica Latine conversa (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's Latin translation, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 24 focus
La poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) Experimental (André Dacier's French translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1692.) — 24.8 focus
Pour ce qui eſt du vers de l'Epopée, l'experience a fait voir que le vers heroïque eſt le ſeul qui luy convienne.
Poetica d'Aristotile (Bernardo Segni, 1549) (OCR draft) Experimental (Bernardo Segni's 1549 Florentine Italian translation, aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 24 focus
De poetica (Antonio Riccobono, 1587) (OCR draft) Experimental (Antonio Riccobono's Latin translation, first published in 1587; text represented from Immanuel Bekker's 1831 edition.) — 24 focus
De arte poetica liber (William of Moerbeke, ca. 1277) (OCR draft) Experimental (William of Moerbeke's medieval Latin translation, represented by the 1953 Aristoteles Latinus edition.) — 24 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition) (OCR draft) Experimental (The Arabic translation attributed to Abū Bishr Mattā, edited by Jaroslaus Tkatsch in 1928 and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 24 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition, unaligned) (OCR draft) Experimental (Tkatsch's edition of the medieval Arabic translation in its original, unaligned segmentation.) — 24 focus

Commentary

Commentary on the Poetics (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) (Ingram Bywater's English commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

8. mvp-aristotle-comment-915

ἀπὸ τῆς πείρας ἥρμοκεν. The iambic is said to have become established in Tragedy in the same way (see 4, 1449 a 24 ). Similarly in Pol. 8. 6, 1341 a 37 experience is said to have led to the rejection of the flute as part of a liberal education:
ὕστερον δ᾽ ἀπεδοκιμάσθη [scil. ἡ αὔλησις] διὰ τῆς πείρας αὐτῆς, βέλτιον δυναμένων κρίνειν τὸ πρὸς ἀρετὴν καὶ τὸ μὴ πρὸς ἀρετὴν συντεῖνον
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8. mvp-aristotle-comment-916

33 διηγητικὴν. The editors prefer the reading of sundry apographs, διηγηματικήν, the form which appears in the context, b 36, and in 23, 1459 a 17 . There is no reason, however, why Aristotle should not say διηγητικὴ μίμησις. διηγητικός is certainly a good Aristotelian word (v. Eth. N. 3. 13, 1117 b 34 ). He shows perhaps too little regard for uniformity in such matters. Thus we find him speaking in b34 of the ἡρωικόν, and a few lines further on (1460 a 3) of the ἡρῷον μέτρον; and in the Rhetoric ξένος and ξενικός are both used of language without perceptible difference of meaning (v. Bon. Ind. 493 a 45, b 24 ).
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Remarques sur la poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (André Dacier's French commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

12. mvp-aristotle-comment-568

24.8 12. Pour ce qui est du vers de l' Epopée, l'experience a fait voir que le vers heroïque est le ſeul qui luy convienne.] 1

13. mvp-aristotle-comment-569

24.8 13. Car le vers heroïque est le plus grave & le plus pompeux.] 2

14. mvp-aristotle-comment-570

24.8 14. Auſſi reçoit-il particulierement les mots étrangers & les metaphores.] 3

Commentarius in Aristotelis Poeticam (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) (Ritter's Latin commentary, extracted from the 1839 volume, divided by Ritter's chapters and sections, and linked to the corresponding Perseus reference subsections.) focus

5. mvp-aristotle-comment-177

Ritter, cap. 24 § 5

adhuc expositum est, quomodo epopoeia et cur ambitu suo differret a tragoedia: iam ad alterum utriusquediscrimen, quod in metro positum est accedit. τὸ γὰρ ἡρωϊκὸν στασιμώτατον καὶ ὀγκωδέστατον τῶν μέτρων ἐστίν: metrum heroum stabilissimum est propterea quod arsis thesisque ratio aequalis est, idemque plenissimum est, quia sex pedibus bene iunctis absolvitur. conf. Rhetor. III, 8. τῶν δὲ ῥυθμῶν ὁ μὲν ἡρῷος σεμνός. διὸ καὶ γλώττας - μίμησις τῶν ἄλλων: iterum Crispinus male interturbans. inepte haec adduntur, quia nihil faciunt ad naturam versus heroi, de qua agitur, definiendam, et potius primariam disputationem perturbatam et impeditam reddunt, quae hisce amotis egregie procedit: sed, quod maius est, eadem haec falsa sunt, quia ex Aristotelis sententia poesis epica non glossas et metaphoras potissimum ( μάλιστα) recipit, sed ipsa glossas, dramatica vero metaphoras potissimum amplectitur. lege mihi. c. 22, 10. τῶν δ᾽ ὀνομάτων τὰ μὲν διπλᾶ μάλιστα ἁρμόττει τοῖς διθυράμβοις, αἱ δὲ γλῶτται τοῖς ἡρωϊκοῖς, αἱ δὲ μεταφοραὶ τοῖς ἰαμβείοις. Rhetor. III, 3. p. 1406. b 1. quem locum transcripsimus ad c. 22, 10. pag. 243. mire dicta sunt quae sequuntur, περιττὴ γὰρ καὶ ἡ διηγηματική μίμησις τῶν ἄλλων, Copiosior enim etiam narrativa imitatio est ceteris; sane summam haec infantiam arguunt. τὸ δὲ ἰαμβικὸν καὶ τετράμετρον κινητικά· τὸ μὲν ὀρχηστικόν, τὸ δὲ πρακτικόν: haec bene et vere exposita quantopere eminent prae suppositiciis modo detectis. similia leguntur in Rhetoricis III, 8. ὁ δ᾽ ἴαμβος αὐτή ἐστιν ἡ λέξις ἡ τῶν πολλῶν· διὸ μάλιστα πάντων τῶν μέτρων ἰαμβεῖα φθέγγονται λέγοντες. - - ὁ δὲ τροχαῖος κορδακικώτερος· δηλοῖ δὲ τὰ τετράμετρα· ἔστι γὰρ τροχερὸς ῥυθμὸς τὰ τετράμετρα.