Aristotle Poetics 18.14

Thomas Twining (Translator)

View: By Part
In the Epic Poem, the length of the whole admits of a proper magnitude in the parts; but in the drama, the effect of such a plan is far different from what is expected.

Poetics. Aristotle. Thomas Twining (Translator). London, UK. 1789.

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Editions (4)
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) (Aristotle, Poetics. Immanuel Bekker, editor, Aristotelis Opera, volume 2. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1837.) — 18 focus
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) Perseus (Aristotle, De arte poetica liber. Rudolf Kassel, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1965. Reference edition for passage alignment.) — 18 focus
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Poetics (W. H. Fyfe) (OCR draft) Perseus (William Hamilton Fyfe's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, Loeb Classical Library, 1939 printing.) — 18 focus
Arabic Poetics (Badawī edition, 1953) (OCR draft) (The ancient Arabic translation of Aristotle's Poetics in ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Badawī's 1953 edition.) — 18 focus
Poetics (S. H. Butcher, 1911) (OCR draft) Experimental (S. H. Butcher's English translation from Aristotle's Theory of Poetry and Fine Art, fourth edition, 1911.) — 18 focus
Aristotle on the Art of Poetry (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 18 focus
The Poetic of Aristotle (Henry James Pye, revised 1792) (OCR draft) Experimental (Henry James Pye's revised 1792 English translation, corrected against the 1788 first edition, aligned to the Kassel reference edition, and supplied with a selective apparatus of substantive 1788 readings.) — 18.14 focus
For though on account of the length of the poem, every part there has its proper proportion, in the drama the effect would be very different from the expectation of the poet (F). As a proof of this, 1 2 3 4
The Poetic of Aristotle (Theodore Alois Buckley) (OCR draft) Experimental (Theodore Alois Buckley's English translation, first published in 1850 and represented from the Henry G. Bohn 1857 printing; corrected against a second OCR and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 18.14 focus
and has a moral tendency.
Poetica Latine conversa (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's Latin translation, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 18 focus
La poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) Experimental (André Dacier's French translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1692.) — 18.14 focus
Dans le Poëme Epique chacune de ſes parties reçoit ſa juſte grandeur, à cauſe de l'étendüe de ce Poëme, mais dans la Tragedie il en arrive tout autrement qu'on n'avoit penſé;
Poetica d'Aristotile (Bernardo Segni, 1549) (OCR draft) Experimental (Bernardo Segni's 1549 Florentine Italian translation, aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 18 focus
De poetica (Antonio Riccobono, 1587) (OCR draft) Experimental (Antonio Riccobono's Latin translation, first published in 1587; text represented from Immanuel Bekker's 1831 edition.) — 18 focus
De arte poetica liber (William of Moerbeke, ca. 1277) (OCR draft) Experimental (William of Moerbeke's medieval Latin translation, represented by the 1953 Aristoteles Latinus edition.) — 18 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition) (OCR draft) Experimental (The Arabic translation attributed to Abū Bishr Mattā, edited by Jaroslaus Tkatsch in 1928 and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 18 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition, unaligned) (OCR draft) Experimental (Tkatsch's edition of the medieval Arabic translation in its original, unaligned segmentation.) — 18 focus

Commentary

Remarques sur la poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (André Dacier's French commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

17. mvp-aristotle-comment-442

18.14 17. Dans l'Epopée chacune de ces parties reçoit sa juſte grandeur, à cause de l'étenduë de ce Poëme; mais dans la Tragedie il en arrive tout autrement qu'on n'avoit penſe.) 1

Commentary on the Poetics (Thomas Twining, 1789) (OCR draft) (Thomas Twining's notes on Aristotle's Poetics, aligned to the Kassel reference edition.) focus

153. mvp-aristotle-comment-153

NOTE 153. P. 102.

18.14 BUT IN THE DRAMA, THE EFFECT OF SUCH A PLAN IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IS EXPECTED.
Πολυ παρα την υποληψιν αποβαινει
:—literally, "it turns out very differently from what was expected, or supposed, by the Poet." The
υποληψις
, the view, and expectation of the Poet, when he crowds so many incidents into his piece, is, that he shall make it interesting and pleasing by its variety. But the contrary happens. The necessity of not exceeding the usual length, and time of representation, reduces the proposed variety to a confused and huddled mass of incidents, not long enough dwelt on, or sufficiently detailed, to be either interesting, or clear. His Poem will be
καταπεπλεγμενου τη ποικιλια
, as the critic well expresses it in another passage that should be compared with this. 1 Thus, the Poet, in this ill-judged attempt, is disappointed in the same manner as the architect, who aims at a beautiful variety by a multitude of small and crowded ornaments, which spoil the general effect, and, at the same time, are too many, and too minute, to afford pleasure by separate inspection. And thus,
πολυ παρα την υποληψιν αποβαινει
; or, as the ingenious author of the Analysis of Beauty has expressed the same idea, in a chapter which affords no bad illustration of this passage from a sister art, "variety, when overdone, is a check upon itself." 2
Such appears to me to be the meaning of this passage, which, I think, has not been fully seen by any of the commentators.

Commentarius in Aristotelis Poeticam (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) (Ritter's Latin commentary, extracted from the 1839 volume, divided by Ritter's chapters and sections, and linked to the corresponding Perseus reference subsections.) focus

4. mvp-aristotle-comment-126

Ritter, cap. 18 § 4

χρὴ δὲ - τραγῳδίαν: nunc demum revertimur ad verum Aristotelem. quam bene sequentia cum fine capitis 17. cohaereant, et unusquisque videt et a nobis paulo ante explicatum est. quod saepius dictum esse pronuntiat, respicit c. 5, 4. 7,5-7. 17,5. alii loci quibus idem monebatur fortasse interciderunt. epopoeiae unitas latioribus finibus circumscripta est, eaque cum multa episodia admittat, complexum mythorum proponere potest. itaque epicum carmen multis mythis ( πολύμυθον) distinctum apparet. trilogiae compositionem significari per ἐποποιικὸν sive πολύμυθον σύστημα existimavit Welckerus in Trilog. Aeschyl. p. 349. 444. 531. 601. et in Museo Rhenano philolog. V. p. 490. sed in verbis quae hic legimus nihil inest, unde illam sententiam probemus. nimirum hoc commendatur poetae tragico, ne mythicae materiae nimium uni tragoediae subiicere velit. conf. Commentar. in c. 7, 3. p. 145. ἐκεῖ μὲν τὸ πρέπον μέγεθος: quae h. 1. μέρη vocantur episodia sunt, quae quamvis ampla tamen propter epici carminis ambitum ( διὰ τὸ μῆκος) iustos fines non facile excedunt.