Aristote Poetics 14.13

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On peut auſſi faire agir des gens qui ne connoiſſent pas l'atrocité de l'action qu'ils commettent, & qui aprés l'avoir commiſe viennent à reconnoître la liaiſon & l'amitié qui étoit entre eux, & ceux ſur qui ils ſe font vangez, comme l'Edipe de Sophocle. Il eſt vray que dans Sophocle cette action d'Edipe eſt hors de la Tragedie. En voicy dans la Tragedie même, la mort d'Eriphyle tuée par Alcmæon dans le Poëte Aſtydamas, & la bleſſure d'Ulyſſe par Telegonus.

Poetics. Aristote. Paris. 1692.

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La poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (fra) (André Dacier's French translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1692.)

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Editions (4)
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) (Aristotle, Poetics. Immanuel Bekker, editor, Aristotelis Opera, volume 2. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1837.) — 14 focus
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) Perseus (Aristotle, De arte poetica liber. Rudolf Kassel, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1965. Reference edition for passage alignment.) — 14 focus
Poetics, Greek text (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's Greek text of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 14 focus
Poetics, Greek text (Franz Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's 1839 Greek edition, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 14 focus
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Poetics (W. H. Fyfe) (OCR draft) Perseus (William Hamilton Fyfe's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, Loeb Classical Library, 1939 printing.) — 14 focus
Arabic Poetics (Badawī edition, 1953) (OCR draft) (The ancient Arabic translation of Aristotle's Poetics in ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Badawī's 1953 edition.) — 14 focus
Poetics (S. H. Butcher, 1911) (OCR draft) Experimental (S. H. Butcher's English translation from Aristotle's Theory of Poetry and Fine Art, fourth edition, 1911.) — 14 focus
Aristotle on the Art of Poetry (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 14 focus
Poetics (Thomas Twining, 1789) (OCR draft) Experimental (Thomas Twining's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1789 and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 14.13 focus
It may, likewise, be perpetrated by those, who are ignorant, at the time, of the connection between them and the injured person, which they afterwards discover; like Oedipus, in SOPHOCLES 1 . There, indeed, the action itself does not make a part of the drama: the Alcmaeon of Astydamas, and Telegonus in the Ulysses Wounded, furnish instances within the Tragedy 2 .
The Poetic of Aristotle (Henry James Pye, revised 1792) (OCR draft) Experimental (Henry James Pye's revised 1792 English translation, corrected against the 1788 first edition, aligned to the Kassel reference edition, and supplied with a selective apparatus of substantive 1788 readings.) — 14.13 focus
There indeed the deed is performed previously to the opening of the drama; but it may happen in the course of the tragedy itself as in: the Alcmæon of Aftydamus and the character of Telegonus in the Ulysses.
The Poetic of Aristotle (Theodore Alois Buckley) (OCR draft) Experimental (Theodore Alois Buckley's English translation, first published in 1850 and represented from the Henry G. Bohn 1857 printing; corrected against a second OCR and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 14.13 focus
Men may also do an action, who are ignorant of, and afterwards discover their connexion [with, the injured party,] as in the " Oedipus" of Sophocles. This, therefore, is extraneous to the drama4, but is in the tragedy itself; as in the " Alcmaeon " of Astydamas, or Telegonus in the " Ulysses Wounded 5." 1 Further still, besides these there is a third mode,
Poetica Latine conversa (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's Latin translation, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 14 focus
Poetica d'Aristotile (Bernardo Segni, 1549) (OCR draft) Experimental (Bernardo Segni's 1549 Florentine Italian translation, aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 14 focus
De poetica (Antonio Riccobono, 1587) (OCR draft) Experimental (Antonio Riccobono's Latin translation, first published in 1587; text represented from Immanuel Bekker's 1831 edition.) — 14 focus
De arte poetica liber (William of Moerbeke, ca. 1277) (OCR draft) Experimental (William of Moerbeke's medieval Latin translation, represented by the 1953 Aristoteles Latinus edition.) — 14 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition) (OCR draft) Experimental (The Arabic translation attributed to Abū Bishr Mattā, edited by Jaroslaus Tkatsch in 1928 and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 14 focus
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Commentary

Commentary on the Poetics (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) (Ingram Bywater's English commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

5. mvp-aristotle-comment-486

φανερόν. The argument here may be thus restated: A play is essentially a μίμησις πράξεως (6, 1449 b 36 and passim); if it is to arouse pity and fear, therefore, it must do that through the ἐλεεινὰ καὶ φοβερά in its πρᾶξις (ἐν τοῖς πράγμασιν), not through merely material accessories supplied ab extra by others (comp. supra b 7).

5. mvp-aristotle-comment-487

τοῦτο: i. e. τὸ ἐλεεινὸν καὶ φοβερόν. For similar instances of this allusive use of the neuter of the demonstrative, which is so common in all Greek ( Kühner, Gr. Gr. 2. 1 p. 35), see 13, 1453 a 24; 17, 1455 a 26; 24, 1460 a 38.
1453b 19

Remarques sur la poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (André Dacier's French commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

5. mvp-aristotle-comment-330

14.5 Car la Tragedie n'est pas faite pour nous donner indiffe-remment toute forte de plaisir, mais feulement celuy qui luy est propre.] 1

6. mvp-aristotle-comment-331

14.5 Ce plaisir, c'est celuy qui, par l'imitation, nait de la compaſſion & de la terreur.] 2

7. mvp-aristotle-comment-332

14.5 Et par conſequent il eſt clair que le Poëte doit produire en nous ce plaisir par le moyen des choses qu'il reprefente.] 3

Commentarius in Aristotelis Poeticam (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) (Ritter's Latin commentary, extracted from the 1839 volume, divided by Ritter's chapters and sections, and linked to the corresponding Perseus reference subsections.) focus

3. mvp-aristotle-comment-97

Ritter, cap. 14 § 3

τὸν ποιητὴν esse poetam tragicum ex contextu verborum liquet. - “ τοῦτο - ἐμποιητέον: τοῦτο esti τὸi ἐλεεινὸν καὶ τὰ φοβερόν. - ποῖα οὖν δεινὰ ἢ ποῖα οἰκτρὰ φαίνεται τῶν συμπιπτόντων, λάβωμεν: ut sententiam ab Aristotele in sequentibus enuntiatam recte intelligamus, attendere debemus ad verbum φαίνεται, quod non idem est, ac δοκεῖν, sed, apparere et in oculos, incurrere. itaque statim ea timenda et miseranda intelligit, quibus extemplo et facile omnes commoventur. non omnes tragoedias anse comprehendi, ne bonas quidem omnes, ipse ignorare non potuit. λάβωμεν sanum esse vix credo. sententia quamquam manifesta est, tamen difficile est ad indicandum quod verbum ab initio h. 1. positum fuerit. aptum erat λέγωμεν, διίωμεν, είπωμεν, alia, § 4. ἂν μὲν οὖν ἐχθρὸς - μέλλων δείκνυσι: hine discimus miserationem spectantium ex Aristotelis sententia pertinere ad primariam tragoediae personam, certe ad eam quae peragit facinus, non ad eam quae perpetitur: nam setiamsi eius qui occidit inimicum inimicus non miseremur, illum tamen, qui occiditur miseratione complecti possumus, sed id philosophus minus spectavit et curavit, immo nonnisi obiter significavit verbis πλὴν κατ' αὐτὸ τὸ πάθος. iam ubi inimicus inimicum interficit, is sponte inimicoque animo indulgens hoc facit, ut cum innocens esse non possit, nostra in illum miseratio non commoveatur, neque timor in nobis exoritur ne simile quidquam admittamus: nemo enim tam vecordem et nefarium se putat esse, ut propter inimicitias inimicum suum occidat. οὐδ᾽ ἂν μηδετέρως ἔχοντες: siis qui neque odit neque diligit aliquem tollit, id facinus fere aut iure commissum est, aut incredibile videtur. illud spectator, non improbat, hoc incredulus odit. ri § 5 ιτητοὺς μὲν οὖν παρειλημμένους μύθους λύειμ οὐκ ἔστιν κτλ. traditas fabulas solvere, h. e. plane invertere, quamquam non licet, poeta tamen immutare et ad propositum sibi finem adaptare adeo debet. aliter sensit falsus Aristoteles. vid. c. 25, 7. 11/4186. καθάπερ καὶ Εὐριπίδης -τὴν Μήδειαν: adiectum za ὶ indicio est Euripidem in novis tragoediarumscriptoribus referri. Medeae versus significantur 1236-1250 et 1271-1292. - τοῦτο μὲν οὖν ἐξω τοῦ δράματος: facinus ab Oedipo in Sophoclis Oedipo rege agnitum, hare. caedes patris Laii a se perpatrata, pluribus annis ante id tempus cuius casus in ea fabula explicantur, commissum erat. hoc est illud quod ἔξω τοῦ δράματος Aristoteles vocavit. οἷος ὁ ᾿Αλκμαίων ὁ ᾿Αστυδάμαντος: Astydamas tragicus Eriphylam in ipsa fabula trucidari fecit a filio Alcmaeone matrem illam esse nesciente. eodem nomine tragoedia Sophoclis et Euripidis duae olim exstiterunt. ex Euripi deis una inscripta erat ᾿Αλκμαίων ὁ διὰ Ψωφῖδος, altera ὁ διὰ Κορίνθου. tragoediae Sophocliae tria frustula, Euripidearum plura attulit Dindorfius in Αποσπασματίοις Poetarum scenicorum Gr. p. 33 et 77 ὁ Τηλέγονος ὁ ἐν τῷ τραυματίᾳ Ὀδυσσεῖ: fortasse Aristoteli de vero huius tragoediae auctore non satis constitit, ideoque eam cognomine definire maluit quam auctorem non satis certum proferre. Athenaeus pluribus saeculis post aut certius hanc rem exploraverat aut minus ille quam Aristoteles cautum se praestitit: scribit enim XIII. p. 562 F., ubi de Chaeremone agit, ὁ δὲ αὐτὸς ποιητὴς καὶ περὶ τῶν ἐρώντων ἐν τῷ ἐπιγραφομένῳ Τραυματίᾳ φησὶν οὕτως cet. idem XIII. p. 608 E. Ulixem Chaeremonis tragoediam commemorat, unde liquet ab hoc vulneratum Ulixem ad Char remonem auctorem relatum esse. forsitan Athenaeus priore loco scripserit ἐν τῷ Ὀδυσσεῖ τῷ ἐπιγραφομένῳ τραυματία. i