Aristotle Poetics 24.22

Theodore Alois Buckley (Translator)

View: By Chapter
but there irrational circumstances in the Odyssey, such as Ulysses being left [on the shore of Ithaca by the Phoeacians], would evidently have been intolerable, if they had been fabricated by a bad poet. But now the poet conceals the absurdity, and renders it pleasing by the addition of other beauties. 1

Poetics. Aristotle. Theodore Alois Buckley (Translator). London. 1857.

Current edition Experimental

The Poetic of Aristotle (Theodore Alois Buckley) (OCR draft) (English) (Theodore Alois Buckley's English translation, first published in 1850 and represented from the Henry G. Bohn 1857 printing; corrected against a second OCR and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.)

Provisional text from uncorrected OCR; expect errors.

Editions (4)
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) (Aristotle, Poetics. Immanuel Bekker, editor, Aristotelis Opera, volume 2. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1837.) — 24 focus
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) Perseus (Aristotle, De arte poetica liber. Rudolf Kassel, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1965. Reference edition for passage alignment.) — 24 focus
Poetics, Greek text (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's Greek text of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 24 focus
Poetics, Greek text (Franz Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's 1839 Greek edition, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 24 focus
Translations (13)
Poetics (W. H. Fyfe) (OCR draft) Perseus (William Hamilton Fyfe's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, Loeb Classical Library, 1939 printing.) — 24 focus
Arabic Poetics (Badawī edition, 1953) (OCR draft) (The ancient Arabic translation of Aristotle's Poetics in ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Badawī's 1953 edition.) — 24 focus
Poetics (S. H. Butcher, 1911) (OCR draft) Experimental (S. H. Butcher's English translation from Aristotle's Theory of Poetry and Fine Art, fourth edition, 1911.) — 24 focus
Aristotle on the Art of Poetry (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 24 focus
Poetics (Thomas Twining, 1789) (OCR draft) Experimental (Thomas Twining's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1789 and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 24.22 focus
Thus in the Odyssey 1 , the improbable account of the manner in which Ulysses was landed upon the shore of Ithaca, is such, as in the hands of an ordinary Poet, would evidently have been intolerable: but here, the absurdity is concealed under the various beauties, of other kinds, with which the Poet has embellished it.
The Poetic of Aristotle (Henry James Pye, revised 1792) (OCR draft) Experimental (Henry James Pye's revised 1792 English translation, corrected against the 1788 first edition, aligned to the Kassel reference edition, and supplied with a selective apparatus of substantive 1788 readings.) — 24.22 focus
as the account of Ulysses being cast on shore,) would have been intolerable, if they had been written by an indifferent poet; but there the poet entirely conceals the absurdity by other pleasing circumstances [N].
Poetica Latine conversa (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's Latin translation, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 24 focus
La poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) Experimental (André Dacier's French translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1692.) — 24.22 focus
Dans l'Odyſſée l'endroit où Ulyſſe eſt expoſé par les Pheaciens ſur le rivage d'Itaque, eſt plein de ces abſurditez qui ne ſeroient pas ſupportables ſi un méchant Poëte nous les eût données. Mais ce grand homme les cache toutes ſous une infinité de choſes admirables, dont il aſſaiſonne toute cette partie de ſon Poëme, & qui ſont comme autant de charmes qui nous empêchent d'en appercevoir le défaut.
Poetica d'Aristotile (Bernardo Segni, 1549) (OCR draft) Experimental (Bernardo Segni's 1549 Florentine Italian translation, aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 24 focus
De poetica (Antonio Riccobono, 1587) (OCR draft) Experimental (Antonio Riccobono's Latin translation, first published in 1587; text represented from Immanuel Bekker's 1831 edition.) — 24 focus
De arte poetica liber (William of Moerbeke, ca. 1277) (OCR draft) Experimental (William of Moerbeke's medieval Latin translation, represented by the 1953 Aristoteles Latinus edition.) — 24 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition) (OCR draft) Experimental (The Arabic translation attributed to Abū Bishr Mattā, edited by Jaroslaus Tkatsch in 1928 and aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 24 focus
Arabic Poetics (Abū Bishr Mattā; Tkatsch edition, unaligned) (OCR draft) Experimental (Tkatsch's edition of the medieval Arabic translation in its original, unaligned segmentation.) — 24 focus

Notes on the current edition

Poetics

1. 11. The diction in the respective parts.

Commentary

Commentary on the Poetics (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) (Ingram Bywater's English commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

22. mvp-aristotle-comment-957

ἀφανίζει: see Bon. Ind. 127 b 1 . The sense is that the attractiveness of the accessories ( ἡδύνων; see on 6, 1449 b 25 ) disguises the inherent absurdity of the situation.

Remarques sur la poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (André Dacier's French commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

36. mvp-aristotle-comment-592

24.22 36. Dans l'Odyffée, l'endroit où Ulyſſe eſt exposé par les Pheaciens ſur le rivage d'Itaque, est plein de ces abfurditez qui ne seroient pas ſupportables, ſi un méchant Poëte nous les eût données, mais ce grand homme les cache toutes ſous une infinité de choses admirables, &c.] 1

Commentary on the Poetics (Thomas Twining, 1789) (OCR draft) (Thomas Twining's notes on Aristotle's Poetics, aligned to the Kassel reference edition.) focus

224. mvp-aristotle-comment-224

NOTE 224.

24.22 P. 121. THE ABSURDITY IS CONCEALED UNDER THE VARIOUS BEAUTIES, &C.
In the language of Pindar ,—
Καὶ πού τι καὶ βροτῶν φρένας, ὑπὲρ τὸν ἀληθῆ λόγον, δεδαιδαλμένοι ψεύδεσι ποικίλοις ἐξαπατῶντι μῦθοι. ΧΑΡΙΣ δ’, ἅπερ ἅπαντα τευ- -χει τὰ μείλιχα θνατοῖς, ἐπιφέροισα τιμὰν, ΚΑΙ ΑΠΙΣΤΟΝ ἘΜΗΣΑΤΟ ΠΙΣΤΟΝ ΕΜΜΕΝΑΙ.
Olymp. I.
"L'homme est de glace aux verités, Il est de feu pour les mensonges."
La Fontaine, Fab. 174. The reader, I believe, will be pleased with the comparison of a poetical passage so remarkably apposite to this observation of the philosopher; and, indeed, to all this part of his treatise, relative to the management of fiction. On account of the same general relation to the subject, I may be excused for adding these agreeable lines of Plautus:—
Sed quasi Poeta, tabulas cum cepit sibi, Quærit quod nusquam est gentium, reperit tamen, Facit illud verisimile quod mendacium est, Nunc ego Poeta fiam.
Pseud. Act I. Sc. 4.

Commentarius in Aristotelis Poeticam (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) (Ritter's Latin commentary, extracted from the 1839 volume, divided by Ritter's chapters and sections, and linked to the corresponding Perseus reference subsections.) focus

10. mvp-aristotle-comment-182

Ritter, cap. 24 § 10

haec quoque proferuntur ad Homeri virtutem declarandam, quod magis apparebit, ubi insiticia secreta erunt. ἀδύνατα εἰκότα: sunt v. gr. illa quae paedagogus Sophocleus de Oreste in certamine Pythico interempto narrat: nam certamina Pythica nondum erant, cum aevum ageret Orestes. vid. Electr. v. 680-763. item ἀδύνατα εἰκότα illa sunt, quae Virgilius de Aenea Carthaginem delato refert: siquidem Carthago nondum erat, cum Aeneas patriam suam relinqueret. contra δυνατὰ ἀπίθανα illa sunt quae de Ulixe somno sopito et exposito in Ithacam ab Homero in Odysseae libro XIII narrantur; item talia admitteret qui Achillem occiso Patroclo amico nihilo minus irascentem Agamemnoni et a pugna abstinentem produceret. ἀλλὰ μάλιστα - Μυσίαν ἥκων: haec Aristoteles ipse non scripsit 3). nimirum ipse, dum scribit τους τε λόγους μὴ συνίστασθαι ἐκ μερῶν ἀλόγων, carminum epicorum argumenta intelligit et perapte pergit ὥστε τὸ λέγειν κτλ. sed auctor personatus hanc de argumentis epicis disputatio- 3) Idem hoc intellexit Gruppius in Ariadna p. 555 sq.nem importune interrumpens impotenter revolvitur ad tragoedias et exempla imperite et inepte prolata. primum ἀλογίας exemplum sumptum est ex Sophoclis Oedipo rege, et tota haec observatio additis nonnullis ex iis quae verus Aristoteles c. 15, 7. monuerat transcripta est. hoc excusat, ut Aristoteles ante excusaverat. sed idem homuncio in iis quae continuo ab ipso inventa sequuntur Sophoclem audet reprehendere, quod is in Electra (v. 680 sqq.) narrantem induxerit, quomodo Orestes in certamine Pythico vitam amiserit, cum ea aetate non essent Pythica certamina. itane vero hoc reprehendi potest? minime. verus Aristoteles sedulum interpolatorem veriora docere potuisset, scilicet quae de illo certamine proferuntur sunt ἀδύνατα εἰκότα, quae ab Ar. probantur. itaque personatus auctor non solum inique et absurde vituperavit summum poetam sed in ipsius Aristotelis praecepta offendit. ὁ ἄφωνος ἐκ Τεγέας εἰς τὴν Μυσίαν ἥκων: quis hic fuerit primus docte explicuit Tyrwhittus in adnotatione ad h. 1. scripta. Telephus erat, qui ob caedem cognatorum a se commissam loqui abstinuit antequam lustraretur. vid. Hygini fab. 244. Telephus Herculis filius (occidit) Hippothoum et Nerea aviae suae filios. Athenaeus VI. p. 224 E. X. p. 421 D. Tzetzes ad Lycophr. 206. Stephan. Byzant. s. v. Οἶος. tragoediam Μυσούς et Aeschylus et Sophocles docuerunt, et nonnulla utriusque fragmenta exstant. Aeschylia hic intelligi videtur, quamvis proxime duae Sophoclis fabulae commemoratae sint. Telephus intra fabulam talis qualem significat interpolator ostendi poterat, ut primum spectatoribus Tegeae versatus, deinde in Mysiam profectus repraesentaretur. duo alia restant indicia quibus haec pro falsis convincantur. primum est articuli omissio ( ἐν Ἠλέκτρᾳ, ἐν Μυσοῖς) grammaticorum propria, ab Aristotelis scribendi consuetudine aliena. conf. nota ad c. 23, 4. alterum indicium est quod haec ex parte c. 25, 17. repetuntur. interpolator enim opes suas adeo amavit, ut eas bis propinare ac venditare gestiret. ἂν δὲ θῇ: subintelligendum τὸ ἄτοπον ὁ ποιητής. ἐπεὶ καὶ τὰ ἐν Ὀδυσσείᾳ ἄλογα – ἡδύνων τὸ ἄτοπον: significat Odysseae N. 70-125, in hisce prudentissimi viri integrum iudicium quaeso agnoscas, articulus ante Ὀδυσσείᾳ hic recte abest: non enim indicare voluit quaecumque ἄλογα inessent Odysseae, sed singularia illa ad expositionem Ulixis pertinentia.