Aristotle Poetics 13.10

Theodore Alois Buckley (Translator)

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and contests of the players, simple fables which terminate unhappily appear to be most tragical, if they are properly acted. And Euripides, though he does not manage other things well, yet appears to be the most tragic of poets5. 1

Poetics. Aristotle. Theodore Alois Buckley (Translator). London. 1857.

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Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) (Aristotle, Poetics. Immanuel Bekker, editor, Aristotelis Opera, volume 2. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1837.) — 13 focus
Περὶ ποιητικῆς (OCR draft) Perseus (Aristotle, De arte poetica liber. Rudolf Kassel, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1965. Reference edition for passage alignment.) — 13 focus
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Poetics (W. H. Fyfe) (OCR draft) Perseus (William Hamilton Fyfe's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, Loeb Classical Library, 1939 printing.) — 13 focus
Arabic Poetics (Badawī edition, 1953) (OCR draft) (The ancient Arabic translation of Aristotle's Poetics in ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Badawī's 1953 edition.) — 13 focus
Poetics (S. H. Butcher, 1911) (OCR draft) Experimental (S. H. Butcher's English translation from Aristotle's Theory of Poetry and Fine Art, fourth edition, 1911.) — 13 focus
Aristotle on the Art of Poetry (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) Experimental (Ingram Bywater's English translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1909.) — 13 focus
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And, as the strongest proof of it, we find that upon the stage, and in the dramatic contests, such Tragedies, if they succeed, have always the most Tragic effect: and EURIPIDES, though, in other respects, faulty in the conduct of his subjects, seems clearly to be the most Tragic of all Poets.
The Poetic of Aristotle (Henry James Pye, revised 1792) (OCR draft) Experimental (Henry James Pye's revised 1792 English translation, corrected against the 1788 first edition, aligned to the Kassel reference edition, and supplied with a selective apparatus of substantive 1788 readings.) — 13.10 focus
and in the dramatic contests, if they are well managed;
Poetica Latine conversa (Franciscus Ritter, 1839) (OCR draft) Experimental (Franz Ritter's Latin translation, corrected against OCR of the represented copy and aligned to the conventional Perseus chapter-and-subchapter sequence.) — 13 focus
La poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) Experimental (André Dacier's French translation of Aristotle's Poetics, published in 1692.) — 13.10 focus
En voicy une preuve inconteſtable, c'eſt que dans les diſputes publiques, & ſur le Theatre, ces ſortes de Tragedies paroiſſent toûjours les plus tragiques & les plus touchantes, ſi rien d'étranger n'en trouble ou n'en gâte la répreſentation. Et le même Euripide, quoyque d'ailleurs peu exact & peu châtié dans la conduite & la diſpoſition de ſes ſujets, paroît pourtant le plus Tragique de tous les Poëtes.
Poetica d'Aristotile (Bernardo Segni, 1549) (OCR draft) Experimental (Bernardo Segni's 1549 Florentine Italian translation, aligned to the Kassel reference passage sequence.) — 13 focus
De poetica (Antonio Riccobono, 1587) (OCR draft) Experimental (Antonio Riccobono's Latin translation, first published in 1587; text represented from Immanuel Bekker's 1831 edition.) — 13 focus
De arte poetica liber (William of Moerbeke, ca. 1277) (OCR draft) Experimental (William of Moerbeke's medieval Latin translation, represented by the 1953 Aristoteles Latinus edition.) — 13 focus
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Notes on the current edition

Poetics

1. 7. but least popular,

Commentary

Commentary on the Poetics (Ingram Bywater, 1909) (OCR draft) (Ingram Bywater's English commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

10. mvp-aristotle-comment-461

ἀγώνων: see on 6, 1450 b 18.

10. mvp-aristotle-comment-462

1453a 28 τραγικώταται: i.e. as arousing most directly the two distinctively tragic emotions of pity and fear (comp. 13, 1452 b 33 τοῦτο γὰρ ἴδιον τῆς τοιαύτης μιμήσεώς ἐστιν). Similarly in the context (a 29) Euripides is termed τραγικώτατος τῶν ποιητῶν, because he is the greatest master of the art of arousing these same emotions (comp. Neidhardt l. c. p. 281).
αἱ τοιαῦται = αἱ εἰς δυστυχίαν τελευτῶσαι.

10. mvp-aristotle-comment-463

ἂν κατορθωθῶσιν. The proper management Aristotle has in mind is often supposed to be that of the actors, stage-managers, etc., responsible for the execution of the piece. This interpretation, as was long ago pointed out by Düntzer ( Rettung d. aristot. Poetik p. 159), makes the clause a superfluity, since it is obvious that, to succeed on the stage, every play requires fairly good acting and an adequate presentation. After ἂν κατορθωθῶσιν we have to supply ὑπὸ τοῦ ποιητοῦ (comp. εὖ οἰκονομεῖ, scil. Euripides, in the next line); the sense is that the poet, having chosen a good tragic subject, must handle it with all due skill and care to secure a satisfactory result (comp. 14, 1453 b 25). κατορθοῦν is practically synonymous with εὖ οἰκονομεῖν, the term which replaces it in the context (a 29).

10. mvp-aristotle-comment-464

1453a 29 τὰ ἄλλα. An admission that Euripides, though a master of emotional effect ( τραγικώτατος), is not always equally admirable in his treatment of the other points in a tragedy. His artistic shortcomings are often noted in the Poetics. His plots are directly or indirectly criticized in 14, 1453 b 28, in 15, 1454 b 1, and in 16, 1454 b 31; his characters in 15, 1454 a 28-32, and in 25, 1461 b 20; and his choruses in 18, 1456 a 27.

10. mvp-aristotle-comment-465

οἰκονομεῖ. This seems to be the first instance of the use of the word in literary criticism. In the grammarians and writers on style οἰκονομία ( οἰκονομεῖν, οἰκονομικός, etc.) is the regular technical word for the disposition of the materials and management of the various points in an oration or a poem (v. HSt. s. v., and Trendelenburg, Gramm. gr. de arte poetica iudiciorum rel. p. 91 and p. 149).
1453a 31

Remarques sur la poëtique d'Aristote (André Dacier, 1692) (OCR draft) (André Dacier's French commentary on Aristotle's Poetics.) focus

25. mvp-aristotle-comment-316

13.10 En voicy une preuve incontestable, c'est que dans les diſputes publiques & ſur le Theatre, ces fortes de Tragedies paroiſſent toûjours les plus tragiques & les plus touchantes.] 1

26. mvp-aristotle-comment-317

13.10 Dans les Disputes publiques & ſur le Theatre.] 2

27. mvp-aristotle-comment-318

13.10 Si rien d'étranger n'en trouble & n'en gate la repreſenta-tion.] 3

28. mvp-aristotle-comment-319

13.10 Et le même Euripide, quoique d'ailleurs peu exact & peu chatié dans la conduitte & dans la diſpoſition de ſes ſujets, pa-roit le plus tragique de tous les Poëtes.] 4

Commentary on the Poetics (Thomas Twining, 1789) (OCR draft) (Thomas Twining's notes on Aristotle's Poetics, aligned to the Kassel reference edition.) focus

97. mvp-aristotle-comment-97

NOTE 97. P. 88.

13.10 UPON THE STAGE AND IN THE DRAMATIC CONTESTS. —
Ἐπι των σκηνων και των ἀγωνων
i. e. merely, in the representation. There seems to be no more foundation for the distinction which Dacier here supposes, between
σκηνη
, and
ἀγων
, than for the same distinction between
ἀγων
, and
ὑποκριται
, in the similar expression,
ἀγωνος και ὑποκριτων
, in cap. vi.

98. mvp-aristotle-comment-98

NOTE 98. P. 88.

13.10 EURIPIDES THE MOST TRAGIC OF ALL POETS.
More, however, it has been observed, with respect to the emotion of pity, than that of terror. And so, Quintilian.
"In affec- tibus cum omnibus mirus, tum in iis qui MISERATIONE CONSTANT, facile præcipuus."
[lib. x. c. 1.]
Yet the powers of this admirable, though unequal, genius, were by no means confined to emotions of tenderness and pity. He, too, as one of "Nature's darlings," possessed that "golden key," which can not only "ope the sacred source of sympathetic tears," but can "unlock" also, and at the same time, the "gates of horror," and of "thrilling fears".
As proofs of this, I am tempted to produce two passages of this Poet, which I could never read without shuddering. In that scene between Medea and Jason, in which, previous to the execution of her horrid vengeance, she deludes him with feigned reconciliation and submission, when Jason, addressing the children, says,
Ιδοιμι δ᾿ ὑμας εὐτραφεις ἡβης τελος
Μολοντας, ἐχθρων των ἐμων ὑπερτερος.
v. 930.
"O may I see you blooming in the prime
"Of manhood, and to every virtue train'd,
"Superior to my foes!"
Mr. Potter's Transl. v. 989.
—Medea turns away her face and weeps and when Jason asks the reason of her tears, she answers,
Οὐδεν—τεκνων τωνδ᾿ ἐννουμενη περι.
"Nothing: I was but thinking of my sons."
"And why," says Jason again, "lament thus over these children?" —Medea, then, knowing, but veiling in ambiguity, her dreadful purpose of destroying them, replies,
Ἐτικτον αυτους —ΖΗΝ Δ᾿ ΟΤ᾿ ΕΞΗΥΧΟΥ ΤΕΚΝΑ, ΕΙΣΗΛΘΕ Μ᾿ ΟΙΚΤΟΣ, ΕΙ ΓΕΝΗΣΕΤΑΙ ΤΑΔΕ!
Potter's Eurip. v. 1000.
"I am their mother:—when thy wish was breath'd
"That they might live, a piteous thought arose,
"If that might be!"
The other passage is in the Electra. In the fine scene between Orestes and Electra, immediately after the murder of their mother, Orestes asks his sister,
Κατείδες οἷον ἁ ταλαιν᾿ ἑων πεπλων
Ἔβαλεν, ἔδειξε, μαζον ἐν φοναις;
v. 1206.
Mark'd you not, how my mother, e'er I struck her,
Withdrew her robe, and to our view expos'd
The breast that nourish'd us!
I know not what more can be said to the praise of Euripides, than, that no one, I believe, can read this scene without being reminded of the MACBETH OF SHAKSPEARE.

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6. mvp-aristotle-comment-92

Ritter, cap. 13 § 6

διὸ καὶ οἱ Εὐριπίδῃ ἐγκαλοῦντες τὸ αὐτὸ ἁμαρτάνουσιν: τὸ αὐτὸ pertinet ad ἐγκαλοῦντες, non ad ἁμαρτάνουσιν: qui Euripidi id ipsum vitio vertunt. Reiziuş αὐτοὶ scribendum coniecit et Hermanno adprobavit. καὶ ὁ Εὐριπίδης - φαίνεται. nihil nisi tristis exitus tragoediarum Euripidearum laudatur. etiamsi una aliqua Euripidis virtus candide agnoscatur, multa tamen eius vitia auctorem nostrum haud latuisse monuit interiectis εἰ καὶ τα ἄλλα μὴ εὖ οἰκονομεῖ. reprehenditur Euripides infra c. 15, 5. et c. 18, 7. item in Ethicis Nic. III, 1. p. 1110 a 27. καὶ γὰρ τὸν Εὐριπίδου ᾿Αλκμαίωνα γελοῖα φαίνεται τὰ ἀναγκάσαντα μητροκτονῆσαι.