Lucian of Samosata, Navigium, Kenneth Kilburn (Translator), 3

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TIMOLAUS

This is a sign of high birth in Egypt, Lycinus. All the free-born boys plait it until they come of age; it’s just the opposite to our ancestors, who thought it comely for old men to fasten up their hair in a knot, with a golden cicada-brooch to hold it.

SAMIPPUS

Good, Timolaus; you remind me of Thucydides, where he writes in the introduction to his work about our ancient luxury among the Ionians, when the people of that time went away to found colonies together. ¹

Navigium. Lucian of Samosata. Kenneth Kilburn (Translator). Medford, MA. Perseus 5.0.

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Current edition Perseus

The ship or the wishes (English) (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, translator. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).)

Editions (2)

Πλοῖον ἢ Εὐχαί Perseus (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 3. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1913.) — 3 focus

Τιμόλαος

τοῦτο μὲν εὐγενείας, ὦ Λυκῖνε, σημεῖόν ἐστιν Αἰγυπτίας ἡ κόμη· ἅπαντες γὰρ αὐτὴν οἱ ἐλεύθεροι παῖδες ἀναπλέκονται ἔστε πρὸς τὸ ἐφηβικόν, ἔμπαλιν ἢ οἱ πρόγονοι ἡμῶν, οἷς ἐδόκει καλὸν εἶναι κομᾶν τοὺς γέροντας ἀναδουμένους κρωβύλον ὑπὸ τέττιγι χρυσῷ ἀνειλημμένον.

Σάμιππος

εὖ γε, ὦ Τιμόλαε, ὅτι ἡμᾶς ἀναμιμνήσκεις τῶν Θουκυδίδου συγγραμμάτων, ἃ ἐν τῷ προοιμίῳ περὶ τῆς ἀρχαίας ἡμῶν τρυφῆς εἶπεν ἐν τοῖς Ἴωσιν, ὁπότε οἱ τότε συναπῳκίσθησαν. 250

Πλοῖον ἢΕυχαί Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 3 focus

ΤΙΜΟΛΑΟΣ

Τοῦτο μὲν εὐγενείας, ὦ Λυκῖνε, σημεῖόν ἐστιν Αἰγυπτίοις ¹ ἡ κόμη. ἅπαντες γὰρ αὐτὴν οἱ ἐλεύθεροι παῖδες ἀναπλέκονται ἔστε πρὸς τὸ ἐφηβικόν, ἔμπαλιν ἢ οἱ πρόγονοι ἡμῶν, οἷς ἐδόκει καλὸν εἶναι κομᾶν τοὺς γέροντας ἀναδουμένους κρωβύλον ὑπὸ τέττιγι χρυσῷ ἀνειλημμένον.

ΣΑΜΙΠΠΟΣ

Εὖ γε, ὦ Τιμόλαε, ὅτι ἡμᾶς ἀναμιμνήσκεις τῶν Θουκυδίδου συγγραμμάτων, ἃ ἐν τῷ προοιμίῳ περὶ τῆς ἀρχαίας ἡμῶν τρυφῆς εἶπεν ἐν τοῖς Ἴωσιν, ὁπότε οἱ τότε συναπῳκίσαν.

Translations (1)

The Ship: Or, the Wishes Perseus (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 4. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.) — 3 focus

Timolaus

Oh, but that is a sign of noble birth in Egypt, Lycinus. All gentlemen’s sons wear their hair done up till they reach manhood. It was the other way with our ancestors: the topknot, and the golden grasshopper to keep it together, were the proper thing for old men in their time.

Samippus

Very much to the point, Timolaus; you allude to the remarks in Thucydides’s preface, about our old luxurious habits, as preserved in the Asiatic colonies.

Lycinus

Of course!

Notes on the current edition

The ship or the wishes

1. Thucydides I, vi.

Lucian of Samosata Navigium 3

Kenneth Kilburn (Translator)

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TIMOLAUS

This is a sign of high birth in Egypt, Lycinus. All the free-born boys plait it until they come of age; it’s just the opposite to our ancestors, who thought it comely for old men to fasten up their hair in a knot, with a golden cicada-brooch to hold it.

SAMIPPUS

Good, Timolaus; you remind me of Thucydides, where he writes in the introduction to his work about our ancient luxury among the Ionians, when the people of that time went away to found colonies together. ¹

Current edition Perseus

Timolaus

Oh, but that is a sign of noble birth in Egypt, Lycinus. All gentlemen’s sons wear their hair done up till they reach manhood. It was the other way with our ancestors: the topknot, and the golden grasshopper to keep it together, were the proper thing for old men in their time.

Samippus

Very much to the point, Timolaus; you allude to the remarks in Thucydides’s preface, about our old luxurious habits, as preserved in the Asiatic colonies.

Lycinus

Of course!

Notes on the current edition

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TIMOLAUS This is a sign of high birth in Egypt, Lycinus. All the free-born boys plait it until they come of age; it’s just the opposite to our ancestors, who thought it comely for old men to fasten up their hair in a knot, with a golden cicada-brooch to hold it.

SAMIPPUS Good, Timolaus; you remind me of Thucydides, where he writes in the introduction to his work about our ancient luxury among the Ionians, when the people of that time went away to found colonies together. 1

Current edition Perseus

Timolaus Oh, but that is a sign of noble birth in Egypt, Lycinus. All gentlemen’s sons wear their hair done up till they reach manhood. It was the other way with our ancestors: the topknot, and the golden grasshopper to keep it together, were the proper thing for old men in their time.

Samippus Very much to the point, Timolaus; you allude to the remarks in Thucydides’s preface, about our old luxurious habits, as preserved in the Asiatic colonies.

Lycinus Of course!

Notes on the current edition

Stable identifiers

TIMOLAUS

This is a sign of high birth in Egypt, Lycinus. All the free-born boys plait it until they come of age; it’s just the opposite to our ancestors, who thought it comely for old men to fasten up their hair in a knot, with a golden cicada-brooch to hold it.

SAMIPPUS

Good, Timolaus; you remind me of Thucydides, where he writes in the introduction to his work about our ancient luxury among the Ionians, when the people of that time went away to found colonies together. ¹

Timolaus

Oh, but that is a sign of noble birth in Egypt, Lycinus. All gentlemen’s sons wear their hair done up till they reach manhood. It was the other way with our ancestors: the topknot, and the golden grasshopper to keep it together, were the proper thing for old men in their time.

Samippus

Very much to the point, Timolaus; you allude to the remarks in Thucydides’s preface, about our old luxurious habits, as preserved in the Asiatic colonies.

Lycinus

Of course!