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ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Οὐκοῦν τοῦτο, ὦ Λυκῖνε, φής, ὡς οὐ φιλοσοφητέον ἡμῖν, ἀλλὰ χρὴ ἀργίᾳ παραδιδόντας αὑτοὺς ἰδιώτας καταβιῶναι;

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Καὶ ποῦ τοῦτο ἤκουσας ἐμοῦ λέγοντος; ἐγὼ γὰρ οὐχ ὡς οὐ φιλοσοφητέον φημί, ἀλλ’ ἐπείπερ φιλοσοφητέον ὁδοί τε πολλαί εἰσιν ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ἑκάστη καὶ ἀρετὴν ἄγειν φάσκουσαι, ἡ δ’ ἀληθὴς ἐν αὐταῖς ἄδηλος, ἀκριβῆ ποιήσασθαι τὴν διαίρεσιν. ἀδύνατον δέ γε ἡμῖν ἐφαίνετο πολλῶν προτεθέντων ἑλέσθαι τὸ ἄριστον εἰ μὴ ἐπὶ πάντα ἴοι τις πειρώμενος· εἶτά πως μακρὰ ἡ πεῖρα ὤφθη. σὺ δὲ πῶς ἀξιοῖς; αὖθις γὰρ ἐρήσομαι—ὅτῳ ἂν πρώτῳ ἐντύχῃς, τούτῳ ἕψῃ καὶ συμφιλοσοφήσεις κἀκεῖνος ἕρμαιον ποιήσεταί σε;

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Σκύθης ἢ πρόξενος (Greek) (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).)

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Ἑρμότιμος ἢ Περὶ Αἱρέσεων Perseus (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 1. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1909.) — 52 focus

Ἑρμότιμος

οὐκοῦν τοῦτο, ὦ Λυκῖνε, φής, ὡς οὐ 793 φιλοσοφητέον ἡμῖν, ἀλλὰ χρὴ ἀργίᾳ παραδιδόντας αὑτοὺς ἰδιώτας καταβιῶναι;

Λυκῖνος

καὶ ποῦ τοῦτο ἤκουσας ἐμοῦ λέγοντος; ἐγὼ γὰρ οὐχ ὡς οὐ φιλοσοφητέον φημί, ἀλλʼ ἐπείπερ φιλοσοφητέον ὁδοί τε πολλαί εἰσιν ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν ἑκάστη καὶ ἀρετὴν ἄγειν φάσκουσαι, ἡ δὲ ἀληθὴς ἐν αὐταῖς ἄδηλος, ἀκριβῆ ποιήσασθαι τὴν διαίρεσιν. ἀδύνατον δέ γε ἡμῖν ἐφαίνετο πολλῶν προτεθέντων ἑλέσθαι τὸ ἄριστον, εἰ μὴ ἐπὶ πάντα ἴοι τις πειρώμενος· εἶτά πως μακρὰ ἡ πεῖρα ὤφθη. σὺ δὲ πῶς ἀξιοῖς; — αὖθις γὰρ ἐρήσομαι — ὅτῳ ἂν πρώτῳ ἐντύχῃς, τούτῳ ἕψῃ καὶ συμφιλοσοφήσεις, κἀκεῖνος ἕρμαιον ποιήσεταί σε;

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The Scythian or Consul Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, translator. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 52 focus

HERMOTIMUS

Then this is what you say, Lycinus, that we must not study philosophy, but give ourselves up to idleness and live out our lives as laymen?

LYCINUS

When have you heard me say that? What I say is not that we must not study philosophy, but that since we must, and as there are many paths to philosophy and each one claims that it leads to virtue, and the true one is not clear, we must be careful in our choice. But with so many before us we saw it was impossible to choose the best unless we were to visit and test every path. Then the trial was seen to be somewhat lengthy. Now what do you think? I will ask you again—will you follow the first guide you light on and join him in his study while he takes you for a lucky gift from heaven?

Hermotimus, or the Rival Philosophies Perseus (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 2. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.) — 52 focus

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Hermotimus

Well, well; are we to give up Philosophy, then, and idle our lives away like the common herd?

Lycinus

What have I said to justify that? My point is not that we are to give up philosophy, but this: whereas we are ta pursue philosophy, and whereas there are many roads, each professing to lead to philosophy and Virtue, and whereas it is uncertain which of these is the true road, therefore the selection shall be made with care. Now we resolved that it was impossible out of many offers to choose the best, unless a man should try all in turn; and then the process ofgtrial was found to be long, What do you propose?—It is the old question again. To follow and join philosophic forces with whomsoever you first fall in with, and let him thank Fortune for his proselyte?;

Hermotimus

What is the good of answering your questions?

Lucian of Samosata Hermotimus 52

ed. Kenneth Kilburn

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Οὐκοῦν τοῦτο, ὦ Λυκῖνε, φής, ὡς οὐ φιλοσοφητέον ἡμῖν, ἀλλὰ χρὴ ἀργίᾳ παραδιδόντας αὑτοὺς ἰδιώτας καταβιῶναι;

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Ἑρμότιμος

οὐκοῦν τοῦτο, ὦ Λυκῖνε, φής, ὡς οὐ 793 φιλοσοφητέον ἡμῖν, ἀλλὰ χρὴ ἀργίᾳ παραδιδόντας αὑτοὺς ἰδιώτας καταβιῶναι;

HERMOTIMUS

Then this is what you say, Lycinus, that we must not study philosophy, but give ourselves up to idleness and live out our lives as laymen?

Hermotimus

Lycinus

Hermotimus

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ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ Οὐκοῦν τοῦτο, ὦ Λυκῖνε, φής, ὡς οὐ φιλοσοφητέον ἡμῖν, ἀλλὰ χρὴ ἀργίᾳ παραδιδόντας αὑτοὺς ἰδιώτας καταβιῶναι;

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Ἑρμότιμος οὐκοῦν τοῦτο, ὦ Λυκῖνε, φής, ὡς οὐ 793 φιλοσοφητέον ἡμῖν, ἀλλὰ χρὴ ἀργίᾳ παραδιδόντας αὑτοὺς ἰδιώτας καταβιῶναι;

HERMOTIMUS Then this is what you say, Lycinus, that we must not study philosophy, but give ourselves up to idleness and live out our lives as laymen?

Hermotimus

Lycinus

Hermotimus

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ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Οὐκοῦν τοῦτο, ὦ Λυκῖνε, φής, ὡς οὐ φιλοσοφητέον ἡμῖν, ἀλλὰ χρὴ ἀργίᾳ παραδιδόντας αὑτοὺς ἰδιώτας καταβιῶναι;

Ἑρμότιμος

οὐκοῦν τοῦτο, ὦ Λυκῖνε, φής, ὡς οὐ 793 φιλοσοφητέον ἡμῖν, ἀλλὰ χρὴ ἀργίᾳ παραδιδόντας αὑτοὺς ἰδιώτας καταβιῶναι;

HERMOTIMUS

Then this is what you say, Lycinus, that we must not study philosophy, but give ourselves up to idleness and live out our lives as laymen?