Lucian of Samosata, Hermotimus, ed. Kenneth Kilburn, 30

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Ἐπεὶ φέρε, εἰ καθάπερ νῦν ἔχω, ἀγνοῶν ἔτι ὅστις ἐξ ἁπάντων ἐστὶν ὁ ἀληθεύων, ἑλοίμην τὰ ὑμέτερα σοὶ πιστεύσας, ἀνδρὶ φίλῳ, ἀτὰρ μόνα γε τὰ τῶν Στωϊκῶν εἰδότι καὶ μίαν ὁδὸν ὁδοιπορήσαντι ταύτην· ἔπειτα θεῶν τις ἀναβιῶναι ποιήσειε Πλάτωνα καὶ Πυθαγόραν καὶ Ἀριστοτέλην καὶ τοὺς ἄλλους, οἱ δὲ περιστάντες ἐρωτῷέν με ἢ καὶ νὴ Δί' ἐς δικαστήριον ἀγαγόντες ὕβρεως ἕκαστος δικάζοιντο λέγοντες, Ὠ βέλτιστε Λυκῖνε, τί παθὼν ἢ τίνι ποτὲ πιστεύσας Χρύσιππον καὶ Ζήνωνα προετίμησας ἡμῶν, πρεσβυτέρων ὄντων παρὰ πολύ, χθὲς καὶ πρῴην γενομένους, μήτε λόγου μεταδοὺς ἡμῖν μήτε πειραθεὶς ὅλως ὧν φαμέν; εἰ ταῦτα λέγοιεν τί ἂν ἀποκριναίμην αὐτοῖς; ἢ ἐξαρκέσει μοι ἂν εἴπω ὅτι Ἑρμοτίμῳ ἐπείσθην φίλῳ ἀνδρί; ἀλλὰ φαῖεν ἄν, οἶδ’ ὅτι, Ἡμεῖς, ὦ Λυκῖνε, οὐκ ἴσμεν τὸν Ἑρμότιμον τοῦτον ὅστις ποτέ ἐστιν οὐδὲ ἐκεῖνος ἡμᾶς. ὥστε οὐκ ἐχρῆν ἁπάντων καταγιγνώσκειν οὐδὲ ἐρήμην ἡμῶν καταδιαιτᾶν ἀνδρὶ πιστεύσαντα μίαν ὁδὸν ἐν φιλοσοφίᾳ καὶ οὐδὲ ταύτην ἴσως ἀκριβῶς κατανοήσαντι. οἱ δέ γε νομοθέται, ὦ Λυκῖνε, οὐχ οὕτω προστάττουσι τοῖς δικασταῖς ποιεῖν οὐδὲ τοῦ ἑτέρου μὲν ἀκούειν, τὸν δὲ ἕτερον οὐκ ἐᾶν λέγειν ὑπὲρ ἑαυτοῦ ἃ οἴεται ξυμφέρειν, ἀλλ’ ὁμοίως ἀμφοῖν ἀκροᾶσθαι, ὡς ῥᾷον ἀντεξετάζοντες τοὺς λόγους εὑρίσκοιεν τἀληθῆ τε καὶ ψευδῆ, καὶ ἤν γε μὴ οὕτω ποιῶσιν ἐφιέναι δίδωσιν ὁ νόμος εἰς ἕτερον δικαστήριον.

Hermotimus. Lucian of Samosata. ed. Kenneth Kilburn. Medford, MA. Perseus 5.0.

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Σκύθης ἢ πρόξενος (Greek) (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).)

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Ἑρμότιμος ἢ Περὶ Αἱρέσεων Perseus (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 1. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1909.) — 30 focus

Λυκῖνος

ἐπεὶ φέρε, εἰ καθάπερ νῦν ἔχω, ἀγνοῶν ἔτι ὅστις ἐξ ἁπάντων ἐστὶν ὁ ἀληθεύων, ἑλοίμην τὰ ὑμέτερα σοὶ πιστεύσας, ἀνδρὶ φίλῳ, ἀτὰρ μόνα γε τὰ τῶν Στωϊκῶν εἰδότι καὶ μίαν ὁδὸν ὁδοιπορήσαντι ταύτην, ἔπειτα θεῶν τις ἀναβιῶναι ποιήσειε Πλάτωνα καὶ Πυθαγόραν καὶ Ἀριστοτέλην καὶ τοὺς ἄλλους, οἱ δὲ περιστάντες ἐρωτῷέν με ἢ καὶ νὴ Δίʼ ἐς δικαστήριον ἀγαγόντες ὕβρεως ἕκαστος δικάζοιντο λέγοντες, Ὦ βέλτιστε Λυκῖνε, τί πα 771 θὼν ἢ τίνι ποτὲ πιστεύσας Χρύσιππον καὶ Ζήνωνα προετίμησας ἡμῶν, πρεσβυτέρων ὄντων παρὰ πολύ, χθὲς καὶ πρῴην γενομένους, μήτε λόγου μεταδοὺς ἡμῖν μήτε πειραθεὶς ὅλως ὧν φαμέν; εἰ ταῦτα λέγοιεν, τί ἂν ἀποκριναίμην αὐτοῖς; ἢ ἐξαρκέσει μοι, ἂν εἴπω Ἑρμοτίμῳ ἐπείσθην φίλῳ ἀνδρί; ἀλλὰ φαῖεν ἄν, οἶδʼ ὅτι, Ἡμεῖς, ὦ Λυκῖνε, οὐκ ἴσμεν τὸν Ἑρμότιμον τοῦτον ὅστις ποτέ ἐστιν, οὐδὲ ἐκεῖνος ἡμᾶς· ὥστε οὐκ ἐχρῆν ἁπάντων καταγιγνώσκειν οὐδὲ ἐρήμην ἡμῶν καταδιαιτᾶν ἀνδρὶ πιστεύσαντα μίαν ὁδὸν ἐν φιλοσοφίᾳ καὶ οὐδὲ ταύτην ἴσως ἀκριβῶς κατανοήσαντι. οἱ δέ γε νομοθέται, ὦ Λυκῖνε, οὐχ οὕτω προστάττουσι τοῖς δικασταῖς ποιεῖν, οὐδὲ τοῦ ἑτέρου μὲν ἀκούειν, τὸν δὲ ἕτερον οὐκ ἐᾶν λέγειν ὑπὲρ ἑαυτοῦ ἃ οἴεται ξυμφέρειν, ἀλλʼ ὁμοίως ἀμφοῖν ἀκροᾶσθαι, ὡς ῥᾷον ἀντεξετάζοντες τοὺς λόγους εὑρίσκοιεν τἀληθῆ τε καὶ ψευδῆ, καὶ ἤν γε μὴ οὕτω ποιῶσιν, ἐφιέναι δίδωσιν ὁ νόμος εἰς ἕτερον δικαστήριον.

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The Scythian or Consul Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, translator. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 30 focus

Come now, suppose that I, just as I am, still ignorant which of them all has the truth, should choose your way, putting my trust in you, a friend, but one who knows only the way of the Stoics and has travelled by this road alone; then suppose one of the gods brought Plato, Pythagoras, Aristotle, and the rest, back to life, and they stood round me and put questions to me, or even, by Zeus, brought me into court and sued me each and every one of them for maltreatment, saying: “My good Lycinus, what was the matter with you? Who persuaded you to give Chrysippus and Zeno preference over us, who are older by far than they? They were born only yesterday, or the day before, and you have given us no chance to speak, and you have put nothing of what we say to the test.” Supposing they said this, how could I answer them? Or will it be enough if I say that I was persuaded by Hermotimus, a friend of mine? Their answer I know would be: “We, Lycinus, do not know this Hermotimus, whoever he is, and he does not know us either. So you had no right to condemn us all and give a judgment in default against us through relying on a man who is acquainted with only one way in philosophy, and even that perhaps not fully. Lawgivers, Lycinus, do not instruct judges to adopt this procedure, or to give one party a hearing and not allow the other to speak on its own behalf what it thinks is to its own advantage. No, they say that both sides must be given an equal hearing, so that by comparing the opposing arguments they may be assisted in discovering the true and the false, and if they do not adopt this procedure the law allows an appeal to another court.”

Hermotimus, or the Rival Philosophies Perseus (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 2. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.) — 30 focus

[30] Put a case, now: just as I am, as uncertain as ever which of the whole number has the truth, I choose your school; I rely on you, who are my friend, but who still know only the Stoic doctrine, and have not travelled any way but that. Now some God brings Plato, Pythagoras, Aristotle, and the rest to life again; they gather round and cross-examine me, or actually sue me in court for constructive defamation; Good Lycinus, they say, what possessed or who induced you to exalt Chrysippus and Zeno at our expense? we are far older established; they are mere creatures of yesterday; yet you never gave us a hearing, nor inquired into our statements at all. Well, what am I to plead? will it avail me to say I trusted my friend Hermotimus? I feel sure they will say, We know not this Hermotimus, who he ts, nor be us 3 you bad no right to condemn us all, and give judgement by default against us, on the authority of a man who knew only one of the philosophic roads, and even that, perhaps, imperfectly. These are not the instructions issued to juries, Lycinus; they are not to hear one party, and refuse the other permission to say what he deems advisable; they are to hear both sides alike, with a view to the better sifting of truth from falsehood by comparison of the arguments; if they fail in these duties, the law allows an appeal to another court, That is what we may expect them to say.

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