Lucian, Hermotimus, Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator), 83

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[83] A dignified defence of philosophy for an old man! Perhaps you will say too that it is a good enough reason for pursuing it, if it will keep us from worse employments. Were our original expectations from philosophy at all of a different nature, by the way? did they contemplate anything beyond a more decent behaviour than the average 2? Why this obstinate silence?

Hermotimus

Oh, why but that I could cry like a baby? It cuts me to the heart, it is all so true; it is too much for me, when I think of my wretched, wasted years—paying all that money for iny own labour, too! I am sober again after a debauch, I see what the object of my maudlin affection is like, and what it has brought upon me.

Hermotimus. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

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Hermotimus, or the Rival Philosophies (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 2. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

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Ἑρμότιμος ἢ Περὶ Αἱρέσεων Perseus (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 1. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1909.) — 83 focus

Λυκῖνος

τοιαῦτα γέρων ἄνθρωπος ὑπὲρ φιλοσοφίας ἔλεγε. σὺ δὲ καὶ αὐτὸς ἂν φαίης, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, ἱκανὸν εἶναι, ὡς διὰ τοῦτο φιλοσοφοίημεν, ὡς μηδὲν τῶν φαυλοτέρων πράττοιμεν. ἢ ἐπʼ ἄλλαις ἐλπίσιν ἐξ ἀρχῆς φιλοσοφεῖν ἠξιοῦμεν, οὐχ ὡς τῶν ἰδιωτῶν κοσμιώτεροι εἴημεν περινοστοῦντες; τί οὖν οὐκ ἀποκρίνῃ καὶ τοῦτο;

Ἑρμότιμος

τί δʼ ἄλλο ἢ ὅτι καὶ δακρῦσαι ὀλίγου δέω; ἐς τοσοῦτό μου καθίκετο ὁ λόγος ἀληθὴς ὤν, καὶ ὀδύρομαι, ὅσον ἄθλιος χρόνον ἀνάλωκα καὶ προσέτι μισθοὺς οὐκ ὀλίγους τελῶν ἀντὶ τῶν πόνων· νυνὶ γὰρ ὥσπερ ἐκ μέθης ἀνανήφων ὁρῶ οἷα μέν ἐστιν ὧν ἤρων, ὁπόσα δὲ πέπονθα διὰ ταῦτα.

Σκύθης ἢ πρόξενος Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 83 focus

οὐ γὰρ παιδαγωγόν με ἐπεστήσατε αὐτῷ. Τοιαῦτα γέρων ἄνθρωπος ὑπὲρ φιλοσοφίας ἔλεγε. σὺ δὲ καὶ αὐτὸς ἂν φαίης, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, ἱκανὸν εἶναι ὡς διὰ τοῦτο φιλοσοφοίημεν, ὡς μηδὲν τῶν φαυλοτέρων πράττοιμεν; ἢ ἐπ' ἄλλαις ἐλπίσιν ἐξ ἀρχῆς φιλοσοφεῖν ἠξιοῦμεν, οὐχ ὡς τῶν ἰδιωτῶν κοσμιώτεροι εἴημεν περινοστοῦντες; τί οὖν οὐκ ἀποκρίνῃ καὶ τοῦτο;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Τί δὲ ἄλλο ἢ ὅτι καὶ δακρῦσαι ὀλίγου δέω; ἐς τοσοῦτό μου καθίκετο ὁ λόγος ἀληθὴς ὤν, καὶ ὀδύρομαι, ὅσον ἄθλιος χρόνον ἀνάλωκα καὶ προσέτι μισθοὺς οὐκ ὀλίγους τελῶν ἀντὶ τῶν πόνων. νυνὶ γὰρ ὥσπερ ἐκ μέθης ἀνανήφων ὁρῶ οἷα μέν ἐστιν ὧν ἤρων, ὁπόσα δὲ πέπονθα διὰ ταῦτα.

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The Scythian or Consul Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, translator. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 83 focus

You didn’t make me his chaperon.” This was the defence of philosophy that the old man gave. Would you too agree, Hermotimus, that it is enough that we study philosophy in order to keep out of mischief? Or was it with other hopes that we thought it worth while to study philosophy in the first place, not so that in our goings and comings we should present a fairer face than the layman? Why do you not answer this as well?

HERMOTIMUS

Only because I could almost weep. Your argument is true, and I’m driven to this: I’m in anguish at the time I’ve wasted like a fool, and at all the money I’ve paid for my labours, too. I was drunk and now I am sober and am seeing just what it was that I loved and what I have gone through for it.

Lucian Hermotimus 83

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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