Lucian, Hermotimus, Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator), 2

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Lycinus

A glorious prize, indeed! however, you cannot be far off it now, if one may judge by the time you have given to philosophy, and the extraordinary vigour of your long pursuit. For twenty years now, I should say, I have watched you perpetually going to your professors, generally bent over a book taking notes of past lectures, pale with thought and emaciated in body. I suspect you find no release even in your dreams, you are so wrapped up in the thing. With all this you must surely get hold of Happiness soon, if indeed you have not found it long ago without telling us.

Hermotimus

Alas, Lycinus, I am only just beginning to get an inkling of the right way. Very far off dwells Virtue, as Hesiod says, and long and steep and rough is the way thither, and travellers must bedew it with sweat.

Lycinus

And you have not yet sweated and travelled enough?

Hermotimus

Surely not; else should I have been on the summit, with nothing left between me and bliss; but I am only starting yet, Lycinus.

Hermotimus. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

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Hermotimus, or the Rival Philosophies (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 2. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

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Ἑρμότιμος ἢ Περὶ Αἱρέσεων Perseus (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 1. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1909.) — 2 focus

Λυκῖνος

τὰ μὲν ἆθλα, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, θαυμάσια ἡλίκα 741 εἴρηκας. οἶμαί γε μὴν οὐ πόρρω σε εἶναι αὐτῶν, εἴ γε χρὴ εἰκάζειν τῷ τε χρόνῳ, ὁπόσον φιλοσοφεῖς, καὶ προσέτι τῷ πόνῳ οἷόν μοι οὐ μέτριον ἐκ πολλοῦ ἤδη ἔχειν δοκεῖς· εἰ γάρ τι μέμνημαι, σχεδὸν εἴκοσιν ἔτη ταῦτά ἐστιν, ἀφʼ οὗ σε οὐδὲν ἄλλο ποιοῦντα ἑώρακα, ἢ παρὰ τοὺς διδασκάλους φοιτῶντα καὶ ὡς τὸ πολὺ ἐς βιβλίον ἐπικεκυφότα καὶ ὑπομνήματα τῶν συνουσιῶν ἀπογραφόμενον, ὠχρὸν ἀεὶ ὑπὸ φροντίδων καὶ τὸ σῶμα κατεσκληκότα. δοκεῖς δέ μοι ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ ὄναρ ποτὲ ἀνιέναι σεαυτόν, οὕτως ὅλος εἶ ἐν τῷ πράγματι. ταῦτʼ οὖν σκοπουμένῳ μοι φαίνῃ οὐκ ἐς μακρὰν ἐπιλήψεσθαι τῆς εὐδαιμονίας, 742 εἴ γε μὴ λέληθας ἡμᾶς καὶ πάλαι αὐτῇ συνών.

Ἑρμότιμος

πόθεν, ὦ Λυκῖνε, ὃς νῦν ἄρχομαι παρακύπτειν ἐς τὴν ὁδόν; ἡ δʼ Ἀρετὴ πάνυ πόρρω κατὰ τὸν Ἡσίοδον οἰκεῖ καὶ ἔστιν ὁ οἶμος ἐπʼ αὐτὴν μακρός τε καὶ ὄρθιος καὶ τρηχύς, ἱδρῶτα οὐκ ὀλίγον ἔχων τοῖς ὁδοιπόροις.

Λυκῖνος

οὐχ ἱκανὰ οὖν ἵδρωταί σοι, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, καὶ ὡδοιπόρηται;

Ἑρμότιμος

οὔ, φημί· οὐδὲν γὰρ ἂν ἐκώλυέ με πανευδαίμονα εἶναι ἐπὶ τῷ ἄκρῳ γενόμενον· τὸ δὲ νῦν ἀρχόμεθα ἔτι, ὦ Λυκῖνε.

Σκύθης ἢ πρόξενος Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 2 focus

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Τὰ μὲν ἆθλα, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, θαυμάσια ἡλίκα εἴρηκας. οἶμαί γε μὴν οὐ πόρρω σε εἶναι αὐτῶν, εἴ γε χρὴ εἰκάζειν τῷ τε χρόνῳ ὁπόσον φιλοσοφεῖς καὶ προσέτι τῷ πόνῳ οἷόν μοι οὐ μέτριον ἐκ πολλοῦ ἤδη ἔχειν δοκεῖς. εἰ γάρ τι μέμνημαι, σχεδὸν εἴκοσιν ἔτη ταῦτά ἐστιν ἀφ' οὗ σε οὐδὲν ἄλλο ποιοῦντα ἑώρακα, ἢ παρὰ τοὺς διδασκάλους φοιτῶντα καὶ ὡς τὸ πολὺ ἐς βιβλίον ἐπικεκυφότα καὶ ὑπομνήματα τῶν συνουσιῶν ἀπογραφόμενον, ὠχρὸν ἀεὶ ὑπὸ φροντίδων καὶ τὸ σῶμα κατεσκληκότα. δοκεῖς δέ μοι ἀλλ’ οὐδὲ ὄναρ ποτὲ ἀνιέναι σεαυτόν, οὕτως ὅλος εἶ ἐν τῷ πράγματι. ταῦτ' οὖν σκοπουμένῳ μοι φαίνῃ οὐκ ἐς μακρὰν ἐπιλήψεσθαι τῆς εὐδαιμονίας, εἴ γε μὴ λέληθας ἡμᾶς καὶ πάλαι αὐτῇ συνών.

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Πόθεν, ὦ Λυκῖνε, ὃς νῦν ἄρχομαι παρακύπτειν ἐς τὴν ὁδόν; ἡ δ’ Ἀρετὴ πάνυ πόρρω κατὰ τὸν Ἡσίοδον οἰκεῖ καὶ ἔστιν ὁ οἶμος ἐπ' αὐτὴν μακρός τε καὶ ὄρθιος καὶ τρηχύς, ἱδρῶτα οὐκ ὀλίγον ἔχων τοῖς ὁδοιπόροις.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Οὐχ ἱκανὰ οὖν ἵδρωταί σοι, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, καὶ ὡδοιπόρηται;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Οὔ, φημί· οὐδὲν γὰρ ἂν ¹ ἐκώλυέ με πανευδαίμονα εἶναι ἐπὶ τῷ ἄκρῳ γενόμενον. τὸ δὲ νῦν ἀρχόμεθα ἔτι, ὦ Λυκῖνε.

Translations (1)

The Scythian or Consul Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, translator. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 2 focus

LYCINUS

That is a very wonderful prize, Hermotimus, and I fancy you are near winning it, to judge by the time you spend on your philosophical studies and also the considerable energy you seem to have devoted for so long. If I remember, it must be nigh on twenty years that I have seen you doing nothing but going to the teachers, and usually bent over a book and writing notes on the lectures, always pale and wasted with studying. I suppose even your dreams give you no rest, you are so wrapped up in it. So, when I consider this, I feel that you will not be long in reaching happiness, unless it has been your companion for years and we have missed seeing it.

HERMOTIMUS

How can that be, Lycinus? I am just beginning to get a glimpse of my way there. Virtue, says Hesiod, ¹ lives far away, and the path to her is long and steep and rough, with plenty of sweat for travellers.

Lucian Hermotimus 2

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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Λυκῖνος

οὐχ ἱκανὰ οὖν ἵδρωταί σοι, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, καὶ ὡδοιπόρηται;

Ἑρμότιμος

οὔ, φημί· οὐδὲν γὰρ ἂν ἐκώλυέ με πανευδαίμονα εἶναι ἐπὶ τῷ ἄκρῳ γενόμενον· τὸ δὲ νῦν ἀρχόμεθα ἔτι, ὦ Λυκῖνε.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Οὐχ ἱκανὰ οὖν ἵδρωταί σοι, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, καὶ ὡδοιπόρηται;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Οὔ, φημί· οὐδὲν γὰρ ἂν ¹ ἐκώλυέ με πανευδαίμονα εἶναι ἐπὶ τῷ ἄκρῳ γενόμενον. τὸ δὲ νῦν ἀρχόμεθα ἔτι, ὦ Λυκῖνε.

HERMOTIMUS

How can that be, Lycinus? I am just beginning to get a glimpse of my way there. Virtue, says Hesiod, ¹ lives far away, and the path to her is long and steep and rough, with plenty of sweat for travellers.

LYCINUS

Have you not sweated and travelled enough, Hermotimus?

HERMOTIMUS

No, I tell you. I couldn’t be other than perfectly happy if I were at the top. At this moment I am still beginning, Lycinus.

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Λυκῖνος οὐχ ἱκανὰ οὖν ἵδρωταί σοι, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, καὶ ὡδοιπόρηται;

Ἑρμότιμος οὔ, φημί· οὐδὲν γὰρ ἂν ἐκώλυέ με πανευδαίμονα εἶναι ἐπὶ τῷ ἄκρῳ γενόμενον· τὸ δὲ νῦν ἀρχόμεθα ἔτι, ὦ Λυκῖνε.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ Οὐχ ἱκανὰ οὖν ἵδρωταί σοι, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, καὶ ὡδοιπόρηται;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ Οὔ, φημί· οὐδὲν γὰρ ἂν 1 ἐκώλυέ με πανευδαίμονα εἶναι ἐπὶ τῷ ἄκρῳ γενόμενον. τὸ δὲ νῦν ἀρχόμεθα ἔτι, ὦ Λυκῖνε.

HERMOTIMUS How can that be, Lycinus? I am just beginning to get a glimpse of my way there. Virtue, says Hesiod, 1 lives far away, and the path to her is long and steep and rough, with plenty of sweat for travellers.

LYCINUS Have you not sweated and travelled enough, Hermotimus?

HERMOTIMUS No, I tell you. I couldn’t be other than perfectly happy if I were at the top. At this moment I am still beginning, Lycinus.

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Λυκῖνος

οὐχ ἱκανὰ οὖν ἵδρωταί σοι, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, καὶ ὡδοιπόρηται;

Ἑρμότιμος

οὔ, φημί· οὐδὲν γὰρ ἂν ἐκώλυέ με πανευδαίμονα εἶναι ἐπὶ τῷ ἄκρῳ γενόμενον· τὸ δὲ νῦν ἀρχόμεθα ἔτι, ὦ Λυκῖνε.

ΛΥΚΙΝΟΣ

Οὐχ ἱκανὰ οὖν ἵδρωταί σοι, ὦ Ἑρμότιμε, καὶ ὡδοιπόρηται;

ΕΡΜΟΤΙΜΟΣ

Οὔ, φημί· οὐδὲν γὰρ ἂν ¹ ἐκώλυέ με πανευδαίμονα εἶναι ἐπὶ τῷ ἄκρῳ γενόμενον. τὸ δὲ νῦν ἀρχόμεθα ἔτι, ὦ Λυκῖνε.

HERMOTIMUS

How can that be, Lycinus? I am just beginning to get a glimpse of my way there. Virtue, says Hesiod, ¹ lives far away, and the path to her is long and steep and rough, with plenty of sweat for travellers.

LYCINUS

Have you not sweated and travelled enough, Hermotimus?

HERMOTIMUS

No, I tell you. I couldn’t be other than perfectly happy if I were at the top. At this moment I am still beginning, Lycinus.