Lucian of Samosata, Hermotimus, Kenneth Kilburn (Translator), 85

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In all that I have said, my dear friend, do not think that I have directed my argument against the Stoa, or that I have some special hatred for the Stoics. No, it applied to all alike. I should have said the same to you if you had chosen the school of Plato or Aristotle and condemned the rest without a trial. As it is, you have given pride of place to the Stoics, and so the argument has seemed to be directed against the Stoa, although it had no particular grudge against it.

Hermotimus. Lucian of Samosata. Kenneth Kilburn (Translator). Medford, MA. Perseus 5.0.

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The Scythian or Consul (English) (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, translator. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).)

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Ἑρμότιμος ἢ Περὶ Αἱρέσεων Perseus (Lucian. Luciani Samosatensis Opera, Vol. 1. Jacobitz, Karl, editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1909.) — 85 focus

Λυκῖνος

ταῦτα πάντα, ὦ φιλότης, ὁπόσα εἶπον, μή με νομίσῃς κατὰ τῆς Στοᾶς παρεσκευασμένον ἢ ἔχθραν τινὰ ἐξαίρετον πρὸς Στωϊκοὺς ἐπανῃρημένον εἰρηκέναι, ἀλλὰ κοινὸς ἐπὶ πάντας ὁ λόγος· τὰ γὰρ αὐτὰ πρὸς σὲ εἶπον ἄν, εἰ τὰ Πλάτωνος ἢ 830 Ἀριστοτέλους ᾕρησο τῶν ἄλλων ἀκρίτων ἐρήμην καταγνούς. νῦν δὲ ἐπεὶ τὰ Στωϊκῶν προετίμησας, πρὸς τὴν Στοὰν ἀποτετάσθαι ὁ λόγος ἔδοξεν οὐδὲν ἐξαίρετον πρὸς αὐτὴν ἔχων.

Σκύθης ἢ πρόξενος Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 6. Kilburn, Kenneth, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1959 (unrenewed copyright).) — 85 focus

ταῦτα πάντα, ὦ φιλότης, ὁπόσα εἶπον, μή με νομίσῃς κατὰ τῆς Στοᾶς παρεσκευασμένον ἢ ἔχθραν τινὰ ἐξαίρετον πρὸς Στωϊκοὺς ἐπανῃρημένον εἰρηκέναι, ἀλλὰ κοινὸς ἐπὶ πάντας ὁ λόγος. τὰ γὰρ αὐτὰ πρὸς σὲ εἶπον ἄν, εἰ τὰ Πλάτωνος ἢ Ἀριστοτέλους ᾕρησο τῶν ἄλλων ἀκρίτων ἐρήμην καταγνούς. νῦν δὲ ἐπεὶ τὰ Στωϊκῶν προετίμησας, πρὸς τὴν Στοὰν ἀποτετάσθαι ὁ λόγος ἔδοξεν οὐδὲν ἐξαίρετον πρὸς αὐτὴν ἔχων.

Translations (1)

Hermotimus, or the Rival Philosophies Perseus (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 2. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.) — 85 focus

[85] Now I beg you not to fancy that I have said all this as an anti-Stoic, moved by any special dislike of your school; my arguments hold against all schools. I should have said just the same if you had chosen Plato or Aristotle, and condemned the others unheard. But, as Stoicism was your choice, the argument has seemed to be aimed at that, though it had no such special application.

Lucian of Samosata Hermotimus 85

Kenneth Kilburn (Translator)

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