Lucian, Vitarum auctio, Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator), 5

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Pythagoras

More than this, you have to learn that you yourself are not the person you appear to be.

First Dealer

What, I am some one else, not the I who am speaking to you?

Pythagoras

You are that you now: but you have formerly inhabited another body, and borne another name. And in course of time you will change once more.

First Dealer

Why then I shall be immortal, and take one shape after another?

Vitarum auctio. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

Current edition Perseus

Sale of Creeds (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 1. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

Editions (1)

Βίων Πρᾶσις Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 2. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1915.) — 5 focus

Πυθαγόρας

πρὸς δὲ τοῖσδεσι τοῖσιν εἰρημένοισι καὶ σεωυτὸν ἕνα δοκέοντα ἄλλον ὁρεόμενον καὶ ἄλλον ἐόντα εἴσεαι.

Ἀγοράστης

τί φής; ἄλλος εἰμὶ καὶ οὐχ οὗτος ὅσπερ νῦν πρὸς σὲ διαλέγομαι;

Πυθαγόρας

νῦν μὲν οὗτος, πάλαι δὲ ἐν ἄλλῳ σώματι καὶ ἐν ἄλλῳ οὐνόματι ἐφαντάζεο· χρόνῳ δὲ αὖτις ἐς ἄλλον μεταβήσεαι.

Ἀγοράστης

τοῦτο φής, ἀθάνατον ἔσεσθαί με ἀλλαττόμενον ἐς μορφὰς πλείονας;

Translations (2)

Philosophies for Sale Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 2. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1915.) — 5 focus

PYTHAGOREAN

And beside all that I have said, thou shalt learn that thou, who thinkest thyself a single individual, art one person in semblance and another in reality.

BUYER

What’s that? I am another and not this man who now talks to you!

PYTHAGOREAN

Now thou art he, but erstwhile thou didst manifest thyself in another body and under another name, and in time thou shalt again migrate into another person.

BUYER

You mean that I shall be immortal, changing into many forms? But enough of this.

The Sale of Lives Perseus (Lucian. Selections from Lucian. Smith, Emily James, translator. New York: Harper Brothers, 1892.) — 5 focus

Pythagoras

Beyond what I have already said, you will know that you yourself, who seem to be a unit, are one person in appearance and another in reality.

Lucian Vitarum auctio 5

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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Pythagoras

More than this, you have to learn that you yourself are not the person you appear to be.

First Dealer

What, I am some one else, not the I who am speaking to you?

Pythagoras

You are that you now: but you have formerly inhabited another body, and borne another name. And in course of time you will change once more.

First Dealer

Why then I shall be immortal, and take one shape after another?

Current edition Perseus

Πυθαγόρας

πρὸς δὲ τοῖσδεσι τοῖσιν εἰρημένοισι καὶ σεωυτὸν ἕνα δοκέοντα ἄλλον ὁρεόμενον καὶ ἄλλον ἐόντα εἴσεαι.

Ἀγοράστης

τί φής; ἄλλος εἰμὶ καὶ οὐχ οὗτος ὅσπερ νῦν πρὸς σὲ διαλέγομαι;

Πυθαγόρας

νῦν μὲν οὗτος, πάλαι δὲ ἐν ἄλλῳ σώματι καὶ ἐν ἄλλῳ οὐνόματι ἐφαντάζεο· χρόνῳ δὲ αὖτις ἐς ἄλλον μεταβήσεαι.

Ἀγοράστης

τοῦτο φής, ἀθάνατον ἔσεσθαί με ἀλλαττόμενον ἐς μορφὰς πλείονας;

PYTHAGOREAN

And beside all that I have said, thou shalt learn that thou, who thinkest thyself a single individual, art one person in semblance and another in reality.

BUYER

What’s that? I am another and not this man who now talks to you!

PYTHAGOREAN

Now thou art he, but erstwhile thou didst manifest thyself in another body and under another name, and in time thou shalt again migrate into another person.

BUYER

You mean that I shall be immortal, changing into many forms? But enough of this.

Pythagoras

Beyond what I have already said, you will know that you yourself, who seem to be a unit, are one person in appearance and another in reality.

Buyer

What do you say? Am I somebody else and not this person now talking to you?

Pythagoras

Now you are he, but formerly you appeared in another body and with another name; and in time you will change again into another.

Buyer

You mean this: that I shall be immortal, changing into one form after another? But that is enough on this subject.

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Pythagoras More than this, you have to learn that you yourself are not the person you appear to be.

First Dealer What, I am some one else, not the I who am speaking to you?

Pythagoras You are that you now: but you have formerly inhabited another body, and borne another name. And in course of time you will change once more.

First Dealer Why then I shall be immortal, and take one shape after another?

Current edition Perseus

Πυθαγόρας πρὸς δὲ τοῖσδεσι τοῖσιν εἰρημένοισι καὶ σεωυτὸν ἕνα δοκέοντα ἄλλον ὁρεόμενον καὶ ἄλλον ἐόντα εἴσεαι.

Ἀγοράστης τί φής; ἄλλος εἰμὶ καὶ οὐχ οὗτος ὅσπερ νῦν πρὸς σὲ διαλέγομαι;

Πυθαγόρας νῦν μὲν οὗτος, πάλαι δὲ ἐν ἄλλῳ σώματι καὶ ἐν ἄλλῳ οὐνόματι ἐφαντάζεο· χρόνῳ δὲ αὖτις ἐς ἄλλον μεταβήσεαι.

Ἀγοράστης τοῦτο φής, ἀθάνατον ἔσεσθαί με ἀλλαττόμενον ἐς μορφὰς πλείονας;

PYTHAGOREAN And beside all that I have said, thou shalt learn that thou, who thinkest thyself a single individual, art one person in semblance and another in reality.

BUYER What’s that? I am another and not this man who now talks to you!

PYTHAGOREAN Now thou art he, but erstwhile thou didst manifest thyself in another body and under another name, and in time thou shalt again migrate into another person.

BUYER You mean that I shall be immortal, changing into many forms? But enough of this.

Pythagoras Beyond what I have already said, you will know that you yourself, who seem to be a unit, are one person in appearance and another in reality.

Buyer What do you say? Am I somebody else and not this person now talking to you?

Pythagoras Now you are he, but formerly you appeared in another body and with another name; and in time you will change again into another.

Buyer You mean this: that I shall be immortal, changing into one form after another? But that is enough on this subject.

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Pythagoras

More than this, you have to learn that you yourself are not the person you appear to be.

First Dealer

What, I am some one else, not the I who am speaking to you?

Pythagoras

You are that you now: but you have formerly inhabited another body, and borne another name. And in course of time you will change once more.

First Dealer

Why then I shall be immortal, and take one shape after another?

Πυθαγόρας

πρὸς δὲ τοῖσδεσι τοῖσιν εἰρημένοισι καὶ σεωυτὸν ἕνα δοκέοντα ἄλλον ὁρεόμενον καὶ ἄλλον ἐόντα εἴσεαι.

Ἀγοράστης

τί φής; ἄλλος εἰμὶ καὶ οὐχ οὗτος ὅσπερ νῦν πρὸς σὲ διαλέγομαι;

Πυθαγόρας

νῦν μὲν οὗτος, πάλαι δὲ ἐν ἄλλῳ σώματι καὶ ἐν ἄλλῳ οὐνόματι ἐφαντάζεο· χρόνῳ δὲ αὖτις ἐς ἄλλον μεταβήσεαι.

Ἀγοράστης

τοῦτο φής, ἀθάνατον ἔσεσθαί με ἀλλαττόμενον ἐς μορφὰς πλείονας;

PYTHAGOREAN

And beside all that I have said, thou shalt learn that thou, who thinkest thyself a single individual, art one person in semblance and another in reality.

BUYER

What’s that? I am another and not this man who now talks to you!

PYTHAGOREAN

Now thou art he, but erstwhile thou didst manifest thyself in another body and under another name, and in time thou shalt again migrate into another person.

BUYER

You mean that I shall be immortal, changing into many forms? But enough of this.

Pythagoras

Beyond what I have already said, you will know that you yourself, who seem to be a unit, are one person in appearance and another in reality.

Buyer

What do you say? Am I somebody else and not this person now talking to you?

Pythagoras

Now you are he, but formerly you appeared in another body and with another name; and in time you will change again into another.

Buyer

You mean this: that I shall be immortal, changing into one form after another? But that is enough on this subject.