Lucian, Juppiter Tragoedus, Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator), 46

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Timocles

Blasphemer, have you ever been a voyage?

Damis

Many.

Timocles

Well, then, thé wind struck the canvas and filled the sails, and it or the oars gave you way, but there was a person responsible for steering and for the safety of the ship?

Damis

Certainly.

Timocles

Now that ship would not have sailed, without a steersman; and do you suppose that this great universe drifts unsteered and uncontrolled?

Zeus

Good, this time, 'Timocles; a cogent illustration, that.

Juppiter Tragoedus. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

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Zeus Tragoedus (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 3. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

Editions (1)

Ζεὺς Τραγῳδός Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 2. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1915.) — 46 focus

Τιμοκλῆς

εἰπέ μοι, ὦ κατάρατε, πέπλευκας ἤδη ποτέ;

Δάμις

καὶ πολλάκις, ὦ Τιμόκλεις.

Τιμοκλῆς

οὔκουν ἔφερε μὲν ὑμᾶς τότε ἢ ἄνεμος ἐμπίπτων τῇ ὀθόνῃ καὶ ἐμπιπλὰς τὰ ἀκάτια ἢ οἱ ἐρέττοντες, ἐκυβέρνα δὲ εἷς τις ἐφεστὼς καὶ ἔσωζε τὴν ναῦν;

Δάμις

καὶ μάλα.

Τιμοκλῆς

εἶτα ἡ ναῦς μὲν οὐκ ἂν ἔπλει μὴ κυβερνωμένη, τὸ δὲ ὅλον τοῦτο ἀκυβέρνητον οἴει καὶ ἀνηγεμόνευτον φέρεσθαι;

Ζεύς

εὖ γε, συνετῶς ὁ Τιμοκλῆς ταῦτα καὶ ἰσχυρῷ¹ τῷ παραδείγματι.

Translations (2)

Zeus Rants Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 2. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1915.) — 46 focus

TIMOCLES

Tell me, you scoundrel, have you ever made a voyage?

DAMIS

Yes, often, Timocles.

TIMOCLES

Well, you were kept in motion then, were you not, either by-the wind striking the canvas and filling the sails, or else by the rowers, but the steering was done by a single man in ‘command, who kept the vessel safe?

DAMIS

Yes, certainly.

TIMOCLES

Then do you suppose that while the ship would not sail if she were not steered, this universe keeps in motion unsteered and unofficered?

ZEUS

Good! Timocles put that very shrewdly, with a valid illustration.

Zeus the Tragedian Perseus (Selections from Lucian. Smith, Emily James, translator. New York: Harper Brothers, 1892.) — 46 focus

Timokles

Tell me, wretch, have at sea? you ever been Damis. Yes, often.

Timokles

You were carried along then, were you not, either by the wind striking the main-sail and filling the staysail, or by the rowers, while some one person stood at the helm and brought the vessel through in safety?

Lucian Juppiter Tragoedus 46

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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Timocles

Blasphemer, have you ever been a voyage?

Damis

Many.

Timocles

Well, then, thé wind struck the canvas and filled the sails, and it or the oars gave you way, but there was a person responsible for steering and for the safety of the ship?

Damis

Certainly.

Timocles

Now that ship would not have sailed, without a steersman; and do you suppose that this great universe drifts unsteered and uncontrolled?

Zeus

Good, this time, 'Timocles; a cogent illustration, that.

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Τιμοκλῆς

εἰπέ μοι, ὦ κατάρατε, πέπλευκας ἤδη ποτέ;

Δάμις

καὶ πολλάκις, ὦ Τιμόκλεις.

Δάμις

καὶ μάλα.

Τιμοκλῆς

εἶτα ἡ ναῦς μὲν οὐκ ἂν ἔπλει μὴ κυβερνωμένη, τὸ δὲ ὅλον τοῦτο ἀκυβέρνητον οἴει καὶ ἀνηγεμόνευτον φέρεσθαι;

Ζεύς

εὖ γε, συνετῶς ὁ Τιμοκλῆς ταῦτα καὶ ἰσχυρῷ¹ τῷ παραδείγματι.

TIMOCLES

Tell me, you scoundrel, have you ever made a voyage?

DAMIS

Yes, often, Timocles.

TIMOCLES

Well, you were kept in motion then, were you not, either by-the wind striking the canvas and filling the sails, or else by the rowers, but the steering was done by a single man in ‘command, who kept the vessel safe?

DAMIS

Yes, certainly.

TIMOCLES

Then do you suppose that while the ship would not sail if she were not steered, this universe keeps in motion unsteered and unofficered?

ZEUS

Good! Timocles put that very shrewdly, with a valid illustration.

Timokles

Tell me, wretch, have at sea? you ever been Damis. Yes, often.

Timokles

You were carried along then, were you not, either by the wind striking the main-sail and filling the staysail, or by the rowers, while some one person stood at the helm and brought the vessel through in safety?

Damis

Certainly.

Timokles

Then the ship could not sail unless it was steered; but you imagine that this universe moves along without pilot or guide?

Zeus

Well done, Timokles! that is a powerful comparison.

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Timocles Blasphemer, have you ever been a voyage?

Damis Many.

Timocles Well, then, thé wind struck the canvas and filled the sails, and it or the oars gave you way, but there was a person responsible for steering and for the safety of the ship?

Damis Certainly.

Timocles Now that ship would not have sailed, without a steersman; and do you suppose that this great universe drifts unsteered and uncontrolled?

Zeus Good, this time, 'Timocles; a cogent illustration, that.

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Τιμοκλῆς εἰπέ μοι, ὦ κατάρατε, πέπλευκας ἤδη ποτέ;

Δάμις καὶ πολλάκις, ὦ Τιμόκλεις.

Δάμις καὶ μάλα.

Τιμοκλῆς εἶτα ἡ ναῦς μὲν οὐκ ἂν ἔπλει μὴ κυβερνωμένη, τὸ δὲ ὅλον τοῦτο ἀκυβέρνητον οἴει καὶ ἀνηγεμόνευτον φέρεσθαι;

Ζεύς εὖ γε, συνετῶς ὁ Τιμοκλῆς ταῦτα καὶ ἰσχυρῷ 1 τῷ παραδείγματι.

TIMOCLES Tell me, you scoundrel, have you ever made a voyage?

DAMIS Yes, often, Timocles.

TIMOCLES Well, you were kept in motion then, were you not, either by-the wind striking the canvas and filling the sails, or else by the rowers, but the steering was done by a single man in ‘command, who kept the vessel safe?

DAMIS Yes, certainly.

TIMOCLES Then do you suppose that while the ship would not sail if she were not steered, this universe keeps in motion unsteered and unofficered?

ZEUS Good! Timocles put that very shrewdly, with a valid illustration.

Timokles Tell me, wretch, have at sea? you ever been Damis. Yes, often.

Timokles You were carried along then, were you not, either by the wind striking the main-sail and filling the staysail, or by the rowers, while some one person stood at the helm and brought the vessel through in safety?

Damis Certainly.

Timokles Then the ship could not sail unless it was steered; but you imagine that this universe moves along without pilot or guide?

Zeus Well done, Timokles! that is a powerful comparison.

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Timocles

Blasphemer, have you ever been a voyage?

Damis

Many.

Timocles

Well, then, thé wind struck the canvas and filled the sails, and it or the oars gave you way, but there was a person responsible for steering and for the safety of the ship?

Damis

Certainly.

Timocles

Now that ship would not have sailed, without a steersman; and do you suppose that this great universe drifts unsteered and uncontrolled?

Zeus

Good, this time, 'Timocles; a cogent illustration, that.

Τιμοκλῆς

εἰπέ μοι, ὦ κατάρατε, πέπλευκας ἤδη ποτέ;

Δάμις

καὶ πολλάκις, ὦ Τιμόκλεις.

Δάμις

καὶ μάλα.

Τιμοκλῆς

εἶτα ἡ ναῦς μὲν οὐκ ἂν ἔπλει μὴ κυβερνωμένη, τὸ δὲ ὅλον τοῦτο ἀκυβέρνητον οἴει καὶ ἀνηγεμόνευτον φέρεσθαι;

Ζεύς

εὖ γε, συνετῶς ὁ Τιμοκλῆς ταῦτα καὶ ἰσχυρῷ¹ τῷ παραδείγματι.

TIMOCLES

Tell me, you scoundrel, have you ever made a voyage?

DAMIS

Yes, often, Timocles.

TIMOCLES

Well, you were kept in motion then, were you not, either by-the wind striking the canvas and filling the sails, or else by the rowers, but the steering was done by a single man in ‘command, who kept the vessel safe?

DAMIS

Yes, certainly.

TIMOCLES

Then do you suppose that while the ship would not sail if she were not steered, this universe keeps in motion unsteered and unofficered?

ZEUS

Good! Timocles put that very shrewdly, with a valid illustration.

Timokles

Tell me, wretch, have at sea? you ever been Damis. Yes, often.

Timokles

You were carried along then, were you not, either by the wind striking the main-sail and filling the staysail, or by the rowers, while some one person stood at the helm and brought the vessel through in safety?

Damis

Certainly.

Timokles

Then the ship could not sail unless it was steered; but you imagine that this universe moves along without pilot or guide?

Zeus

Well done, Timokles! that is a powerful comparison.