Lucian, Juppiter Tragoedus, Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator), 44

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Timocles

Have a care, Damis; this is sacrilege, no less; what you say amounts to razing the temples and upsetting the altars.

Damis

Ob, not all the altars; what harm do they do, so long as incense and perfume is the worst of it? As for Artemis’s altar at Tauri, though, and her hideous feasts, I should like it overturned from base to cornice.

Zeus

Whence comes this resistless plague among us? ‘There is none of us he spares; he is as free with his tongue as a tub orator,

And grips by turns the innocent and guilty.

Momus

The innocent? You will not find many of those among us, Zeus. He will soon come to laying hands upon some of the great and eminent, I dare say.

Juppiter Tragoedus. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

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Zeus Tragoedus (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 3. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

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Ζεὺς Τραγῳδός Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 2. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1915.) — 44 focus

Τιμοκλῆς

ὅρα οἷα ποιεῖς, ὦ ἀλιτήριε Δᾶμι, μονονουχὶ τὰ ἕδη αὐτὰ τῶν θεῶν ἀνατρέπεις τῷ λόγῳ καὶ βωμοὺς αὐτῶν.

Δάμις

οὐ πάντας ἔγωγε τοὺς βωμούς, ὦ Τιμόκλεις. τί γὰρ καὶ δεινὸν ἀπʼ αὐτῶν γίγνεται, εἰ θυμιαμάτων καὶ εὐωδίας μεστοί εἰσι; τοὺς δὲ ἐν Ταύροις τῆς Ἀρτέμιδος ἡδέως ἂν ἐπεῖδον ἐκ βάθρων ἐπὶ κεφαλὴν ἀνατρεπομένους, ἐφʼ ὧν τοιαῦτα ἡ παρθένος εὐωχουμένη ἔχαιρεν.

Ζεύς

τουτὶ πόθεν ἡμῖν τὸ ἄμαχον κακὸν ἐπιχεῖ; ὡς¹ δαιμόνων οὐδενὸς ἁνὴρ φείδεται, ἀλλʼ ἐξ ἁμάξης παρρησιάζεται καὶ
μάρπτει ἑξείης, ὅς τʼ αἴτιος ὅς τε καὶ οὐκί.

Μῶμος

καὶ μὴν ὀλίγους ἄν, ὦ Ζεῦ, τοὺς ἀναιτίους εὕροις ἐν ἡμῖν· καί που τάχα προϊὼν ὁ ἄνθρωπος ἅψεται καὶ τῶν κορυφαίων τινός.

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Zeus Rants Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 2. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1915.) — 44 focus

TIMOCLES

Take care what you are doing, Damis, you miscreant! You are all but upsetting the very temples of the gods with your arguments, and their altars too.

DAMIS

Not all the altars, as far as I am concerned, Timocles; for what harm do they do if they are full of incense and sweet savour? But I should be glad to see the altars of Artemis among the’ Tauvians turned: completely upside down, those on which the maiden goddess used to enjoy such horrid feasts.

ZEUS

Where did he get this insufferable stuff that he is pouring out on us? He doesn’t spare any of the gods, but speaks out like a fishwife and

Takes first one, then the other, the guiltless along with the guilty.

Iliad 15, 137.

MOMUS

I tell you, Zeus, you'll find few that are guiltless among us, and possibly as he continues the man will soon fasten on a certain person of prominence.

Zeus the Tragedian Perseus (Selections from Lucian. Smith, Emily James, translator. New York: Harper Brothers, 1892.) — 44 focus

Timokles

Beware what you are doing, wretched Damis. You are all but overturning the very seats and altars of the gods with your arguments.

Damis

No, not all their altars, Timokles; for what harm do they do if they are full of incense and fragrance? But those of Artemis in Tauris I should be delighted to see turned upsidedown, whereon the maiden goddess feasts joyously on the things we wot of.

Zeus

Whence has this overwhelming evil come upon us? There is not a divinity that the man stands in awe of. He speaks his mind as freely as a wench in a procession, and he

Grasps them all in order, deserving and undeserving.

Lucian Juppiter Tragoedus 44

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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Timocles

Have a care, Damis; this is sacrilege, no less; what you say amounts to razing the temples and upsetting the altars.

Damis

Ob, not all the altars; what harm do they do, so long as incense and perfume is the worst of it? As for Artemis’s altar at Tauri, though, and her hideous feasts, I should like it overturned from base to cornice.

Zeus

Whence comes this resistless plague among us? ‘There is none of us he spares; he is as free with his tongue as a tub orator,

And grips by turns the innocent and guilty.

Momus

The innocent? You will not find many of those among us, Zeus. He will soon come to laying hands upon some of the great and eminent, I dare say.

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Τιμοκλῆς

ὅρα οἷα ποιεῖς, ὦ ἀλιτήριε Δᾶμι, μονονουχὶ τὰ ἕδη αὐτὰ τῶν θεῶν ἀνατρέπεις τῷ λόγῳ καὶ βωμοὺς αὐτῶν.

Μῶμος

καὶ μὴν ὀλίγους ἄν, ὦ Ζεῦ, τοὺς ἀναιτίους εὕροις ἐν ἡμῖν· καί που τάχα προϊὼν ὁ ἄνθρωπος ἅψεται καὶ τῶν κορυφαίων τινός.

TIMOCLES

Take care what you are doing, Damis, you miscreant! You are all but upsetting the very temples of the gods with your arguments, and their altars too.

ZEUS

Where did he get this insufferable stuff that he is pouring out on us? He doesn’t spare any of the gods, but speaks out like a fishwife and

Takes first one, then the other, the guiltless along with the guilty.

Iliad 15, 137.

MOMUS

I tell you, Zeus, you'll find few that are guiltless among us, and possibly as he continues the man will soon fasten on a certain person of prominence.

Timokles

Beware what you are doing, wretched Damis. You are all but overturning the very seats and altars of the gods with your arguments.

Damis

No, not all their altars, Timokles; for what harm do they do if they are full of incense and fragrance? But those of Artemis in Tauris I should be delighted to see turned upsidedown, whereon the maiden goddess feasts joyously on the things we wot of.

Zeus

Whence has this overwhelming evil come upon us? There is not a divinity that the man stands in awe of. He speaks his mind as freely as a wench in a procession, and he

Grasps them all in order, deserving and undeserving.

Momos

In truth, Zeus, you would find very few who do not deserve it among us. And surely the man will go on to lay hold of even the very greatest.

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Timocles Have a care, Damis; this is sacrilege, no less; what you say amounts to razing the temples and upsetting the altars.

Damis Ob, not all the altars; what harm do they do, so long as incense and perfume is the worst of it? As for Artemis’s altar at Tauri, though, and her hideous feasts, I should like it overturned from base to cornice.

Zeus Whence comes this resistless plague among us? ‘There is none of us he spares; he is as free with his tongue as a tub orator, And grips by turns the innocent and guilty.

Momus The innocent? You will not find many of those among us, Zeus. He will soon come to laying hands upon some of the great and eminent, I dare say.

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Τιμοκλῆς ὅρα οἷα ποιεῖς, ὦ ἀλιτήριε Δᾶμι, μονονουχὶ τὰ ἕδη αὐτὰ τῶν θεῶν ἀνατρέπεις τῷ λόγῳ καὶ βωμοὺς αὐτῶν.

Μῶμος καὶ μὴν ὀλίγους ἄν, ὦ Ζεῦ, τοὺς ἀναιτίους εὕροις ἐν ἡμῖν· καί που τάχα προϊὼν ὁ ἄνθρωπος ἅψεται καὶ τῶν κορυφαίων τινός.

TIMOCLES Take care what you are doing, Damis, you miscreant! You are all but upsetting the very temples of the gods with your arguments, and their altars too.

ZEUS Where did he get this insufferable stuff that he is pouring out on us? He doesn’t spare any of the gods, but speaks out like a fishwife and Takes first one, then the other, the guiltless along with the guilty. Iliad 15, 137.

MOMUS I tell you, Zeus, you'll find few that are guiltless among us, and possibly as he continues the man will soon fasten on a certain person of prominence.

Timokles Beware what you are doing, wretched Damis. You are all but overturning the very seats and altars of the gods with your arguments.

Damis No, not all their altars, Timokles; for what harm do they do if they are full of incense and fragrance? But those of Artemis in Tauris I should be delighted to see turned upsidedown, whereon the maiden goddess feasts joyously on the things we wot of.

Zeus Whence has this overwhelming evil come upon us? There is not a divinity that the man stands in awe of. He speaks his mind as freely as a wench in a procession, and he Grasps them all in order, deserving and undeserving.

Momos In truth, Zeus, you would find very few who do not deserve it among us. And surely the man will go on to lay hold of even the very greatest.

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Timocles

Have a care, Damis; this is sacrilege, no less; what you say amounts to razing the temples and upsetting the altars.

Damis

Ob, not all the altars; what harm do they do, so long as incense and perfume is the worst of it? As for Artemis’s altar at Tauri, though, and her hideous feasts, I should like it overturned from base to cornice.

Zeus

Whence comes this resistless plague among us? ‘There is none of us he spares; he is as free with his tongue as a tub orator,

And grips by turns the innocent and guilty.

Momus

The innocent? You will not find many of those among us, Zeus. He will soon come to laying hands upon some of the great and eminent, I dare say.

Τιμοκλῆς

ὅρα οἷα ποιεῖς, ὦ ἀλιτήριε Δᾶμι, μονονουχὶ τὰ ἕδη αὐτὰ τῶν θεῶν ἀνατρέπεις τῷ λόγῳ καὶ βωμοὺς αὐτῶν.

Μῶμος

καὶ μὴν ὀλίγους ἄν, ὦ Ζεῦ, τοὺς ἀναιτίους εὕροις ἐν ἡμῖν· καί που τάχα προϊὼν ὁ ἄνθρωπος ἅψεται καὶ τῶν κορυφαίων τινός.

TIMOCLES

Take care what you are doing, Damis, you miscreant! You are all but upsetting the very temples of the gods with your arguments, and their altars too.

ZEUS

Where did he get this insufferable stuff that he is pouring out on us? He doesn’t spare any of the gods, but speaks out like a fishwife and

Takes first one, then the other, the guiltless along with the guilty.

Iliad 15, 137.

MOMUS

I tell you, Zeus, you'll find few that are guiltless among us, and possibly as he continues the man will soon fasten on a certain person of prominence.

Timokles

Beware what you are doing, wretched Damis. You are all but overturning the very seats and altars of the gods with your arguments.

Damis

No, not all their altars, Timokles; for what harm do they do if they are full of incense and fragrance? But those of Artemis in Tauris I should be delighted to see turned upsidedown, whereon the maiden goddess feasts joyously on the things we wot of.

Zeus

Whence has this overwhelming evil come upon us? There is not a divinity that the man stands in awe of. He speaks his mind as freely as a wench in a procession, and he

Grasps them all in order, deserving and undeserving.

Momos

In truth, Zeus, you would find very few who do not deserve it among us. And surely the man will go on to lay hold of even the very greatest.