Lucian, Symposium, Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator), 12

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Lycinus

Just after Cleodemus had said this, in burst Alcidamas the cynic. He had not been asked, but put a good face upon it with the usual ‘No summons Menelaus waits.’ The general opinion clearly was that he was an impudent rogue, and various people struck in with what came to hand: ‘What, Menelaus, art distraught?’ or, ‘It liked not Agamemnon, Atreus’ son,’ and other neat tags suited to the occasion; but these were all asides; no one ventured to make them audible to him. Alcidamas is a man uncommonly ‘good at the war-cry’; he will bark you louder than any dog of them all, literal or metaphorical; my gentlemen all knew he was their better, and lay low.

Symposium. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

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A Feast of Lapithae (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 4. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

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Συμπόσιον ἢ Λαπίθαι Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 1. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1913.) — 12 focus

Λυκῖνος

ἅμα δὲ ταῦτα ὁ Κλεόδημος εἰρήκει καὶ ἐπεισέπαισεν ὁ Κυνικὸς Ἀλκιδάμας ἄκλητος, ἐκεῖνο τὸ κοινὸν ἐπιχαριεντισάμενος, τὸν Μενέλαον αὐτόματον ἥκοντα. τοῖς μὲν οὖν πολλοῖς ἀναίσχυντα ἐδόκει πεποιηκέναι καὶ ὑπέκρουον τὰ προχειρότατα, ὁ μὲν τὸ ἀφραίνεις Μενέλαε, ὁ δʼ
ἀλλʼ οὐκ Ἀτρείδῃ Ἀγαμέμνονι ἥνδανε θυμῷ,
καὶ ἄλλοι¹ ἄλλα πρὸς τὸν καιρὸν εὔστοχα καὶ χαρίεντα ὑποτονθορύζοντες· ἐς μέντοι τὸ φανερὸν οὐδεὶς ἐτόλμα λέγειν· ἐδεδοίκεσαν γὰρ τὸν Ἀλκιδάμαντα, βοὴν ἀγαθὸν ἀτεχνῶς ὄντα καὶ κρακτικώτατον κυνῶν ἁπάντων, παρʼ ὃ καὶ ἀμείνων ἐδόκει καὶ φοβερώτατος ἦν ἅπασιν.

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The Carousal, or the Lapiths Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 1. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1913.) — 12 focus

LYCINUS

Just as Cleodemus said that, Alcidamas the Cynic romped in uninvited, getting off the commonplace joke about Menelaus coming of his own accord. ¹ Most of them thought he had done an impudent thing, and they slyly retorted. with the first thing they could think of, one growling under his breath,

Menelaus, thou’rt a fool!

Iliad 7, 109. another:

But Agamemnon, Atreus’ son, was sorely vexed,

Iliad 1, 24. and others other remarks that, in the circumstances, were to the point and witty. But nobody dared to speak out, for they all feared Alcidamas, who was really “good at the war-cry,” ² and the noisiest of all the Cynic barkers, for which reason he was considered a superior person and was a great terror to everybody.

Lucian Symposium 12

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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