Lucian, Symposium, Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator), 1

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Lycinus

Charinus? he was not there; what can he know about it?

Philosophy

Dionicus the doctor had told him, he said; be was one of you, was he not?

Lycinus

Yes, but only later on; he came when the fray was already a promising one, though no blows had yet been struck. I doubt whether he could have any intelligible account to give, as he had not followed the beginning of the rivalry that was to end in bloodshed.

Symposium. Lucian. Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator). Medford, MA, USA. 2023-08-01.

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A Feast of Lapithae (English) (The Works of Lucian of Samosata, Vol. 4. Fowler, Henry Watson and Fowler, Francis George, translators. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.)

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Συμπόσιον ἢ Λαπίθαι Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 1. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1913.) — 1 focus

Φίλων

ποικίλην, ὦ Λυκῖνε, διατριβήν φασι γεγενῆσθαι ὑμῖν χθὲς ἐν Ἀρισταινέτου παρὰ τὸ δεῖπνον καί τινας λόγους φιλοσόφους εἰρῆσθαι καὶ ἔριν οὐ σμικρὰν συστῆναι ἐπʼ αὐτοῖς, εἰ δὲ μὴ ἐψεύδετο Χαρῖνος, καὶ ἄχρι τραυμάτων προχωρῆσαι τὸ πρᾶγμα καὶ τέλος αἵματι διαλυθῆναι τὴν συνουσίαν.

Λυκῖνος

καὶ πόθεν, ὦ Φίλων, ἠπίστατο Χαρῖνος ταῦτα; οὐ γὰρ συνεδείπνει μεθʼ ἡμῶν.

Φίλων

Διονίκου ἔφη τοῦ ἰατροῦ ἀκοῦσαι. Διόνικος δὲ καὶ αὐτός, οἶμαι, τῶν συνδείπνων ἦν.

Λυκῖνος

καὶ μάλα· οὐ μὴν ἐξ ἀρχῆς γε οὐδʼ αὐτὸς ἅπασι παρεγένετο, ἀλλὰ ὀψὲ μεσούσης σχεδὸν ἤδη τῆς μάχης ἐπέστη ὀλίγον πρὸ τῶν τραυμάτων. ὥστε θαυμάζω εἴ τι σαφὲς εἰπεῖν ἐδύνατο μὴ παρακολουθήσας ἐκείνοις, ἀφʼ ὧν ἀρξαμένη ἐς τὸ αἷμα ἐτελεύτησεν αὐτοῖς ἡ φιλονεικία.

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The Carousal, or the Lapiths Perseus (Lucian, Vol. 1. Harmon, Austin Morris, editor. London: William Heinemann, Ltd.; Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1913.) — 1 focus

PHILO

They say you had all kinds of sport yesterday, Lycinus, at the house of Aristaenetus, at dinner, and that several speeches on philosophy were made, out of which quite a quarrel arose. Unless Charinus was lying, the affair even ended in wounds and the party was finally broken up by the shedding of blood.

LYCINUS

Now how did Charinus know that, Philo? He did not dine with us.

PHILO

He said that Dionicus, the doctor, told “him. Dionicus, I suppose, was one of the guests.

LYCINUS

Yes, to be sure; but even he was not there for all of it, from the very beginning: it was late and the battle was about half over when he came on the scene, a little before the wounds. So I am surprised that he could give a clear account of any of it, as he did not witness what led up to the quarrel that ended in bloodshed.

Lucian Symposium 1

Henry Watson Fowler (Translator), Francis George Fowler (Translator)

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Philosophy

Ah, Lycinus, I hear you had a very varied entertainment dining with Aristaenetus last night; a philosophic debate followed by a sharp difference of opinion, I understand; if Charinus’s information was correct, it went as far as blows, and the conference had a bloody end.

Lycinus

Charinus? he was not there; what can he know about it?

Philosophy

Dionicus the doctor had told him, he said; be was one of you, was he not?

Lycinus

Yes, but only later on; he came when the fray was already a promising one, though no blows had yet been struck. I doubt whether he could have any intelligible account to give, as he had not followed the beginning of the rivalry that was to end in bloodshed.

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Λυκῖνος

καὶ πόθεν, ὦ Φίλων, ἠπίστατο Χαρῖνος ταῦτα; οὐ γὰρ συνεδείπνει μεθʼ ἡμῶν.

Φίλων

Διονίκου ἔφη τοῦ ἰατροῦ ἀκοῦσαι. Διόνικος δὲ καὶ αὐτός, οἶμαι, τῶν συνδείπνων ἦν.

LYCINUS

Now how did Charinus know that, Philo? He did not dine with us.

PHILO

He said that Dionicus, the doctor, told “him. Dionicus, I suppose, was one of the guests.

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Philosophy Ah, Lycinus, I hear you had a very varied entertainment dining with Aristaenetus last night; a philosophic debate followed by a sharp difference of opinion, I understand; if Charinus’s information was correct, it went as far as blows, and the conference had a bloody end.

Lycinus Charinus? he was not there; what can he know about it?

Philosophy Dionicus the doctor had told him, he said; be was one of you, was he not?

Lycinus Yes, but only later on; he came when the fray was already a promising one, though no blows had yet been struck. I doubt whether he could have any intelligible account to give, as he had not followed the beginning of the rivalry that was to end in bloodshed.

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Λυκῖνος καὶ πόθεν, ὦ Φίλων, ἠπίστατο Χαρῖνος ταῦτα; οὐ γὰρ συνεδείπνει μεθʼ ἡμῶν.

Φίλων Διονίκου ἔφη τοῦ ἰατροῦ ἀκοῦσαι. Διόνικος δὲ καὶ αὐτός, οἶμαι, τῶν συνδείπνων ἦν.

LYCINUS Now how did Charinus know that, Philo? He did not dine with us.

PHILO He said that Dionicus, the doctor, told “him. Dionicus, I suppose, was one of the guests.

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Philosophy

Ah, Lycinus, I hear you had a very varied entertainment dining with Aristaenetus last night; a philosophic debate followed by a sharp difference of opinion, I understand; if Charinus’s information was correct, it went as far as blows, and the conference had a bloody end.

Lycinus

Charinus? he was not there; what can he know about it?

Philosophy

Dionicus the doctor had told him, he said; be was one of you, was he not?

Lycinus

Yes, but only later on; he came when the fray was already a promising one, though no blows had yet been struck. I doubt whether he could have any intelligible account to give, as he had not followed the beginning of the rivalry that was to end in bloodshed.

Λυκῖνος

καὶ πόθεν, ὦ Φίλων, ἠπίστατο Χαρῖνος ταῦτα; οὐ γὰρ συνεδείπνει μεθʼ ἡμῶν.

Φίλων

Διονίκου ἔφη τοῦ ἰατροῦ ἀκοῦσαι. Διόνικος δὲ καὶ αὐτός, οἶμαι, τῶν συνδείπνων ἦν.

LYCINUS

Now how did Charinus know that, Philo? He did not dine with us.

PHILO

He said that Dionicus, the doctor, told “him. Dionicus, I suppose, was one of the guests.